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Old 04-24-2005, 04:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey lost dog,

I was wondering how you blend Adam's Diet and the TAP way of eating. Have you had success with this and could you tell me what you use from each program for maximum fat loss. Im doing TT:FFL also.
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Old 04-24-2005, 05:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Kevin,

Good luck on your fat-loss quest. Its admirable that you're learning about all the different ways of eating, but like i said in another post, the best diet is one you'll stick with.

So once you do find a diet you like, make sure you stick with it! I've found its easiest to transition into a new diet by slowly phasing out foods that aren't allowed and phasing in foods that are. G R A D U A L L Y... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Also, I think the easiest diet to stick to is a "zone" type diet (which i believe is similar to what you find in TAP?). 40-50% carbs, 25-30% fat, 25-30% protein.

Basically, eat some type of carb at every meal. Make sure they're good carbs though. Lots of veggies, a small handful of fruit, some whole grains.

You you also eat lean meat (chicken, very lean beef, turkey, fish), and diversify your fat intake between mono and poly unsaturated, and saturated fats. Good sources of mono and poly unsaturated fats: Fish, nuts, fish-oil pills and flax-oil...

For some good recipes with all the nutritional info broken down, try out these free (and very very tasty looking recipes) from John Williams and John Berardi:
http://people.smu.edu/jowillia/recipes/recipes.htm

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Old 04-24-2005, 05:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have been eating pretty clean for that last 6 months, loosely following the abs diet but think I need a more structured diet and count calories. I just want a diet thats somewhat flexable and wont kill me, as I was doing adam;s diet strait foward I felt like i needed more fruit and really couldnt eat much of what was avalible at my colleges dinning commons. If a combination of adam's and TAP worked for lost dog id love to see how he blanaced it out. I will be home for the summer in 2 weeks and am going to be following TT:FFL and will be in a 5 on 5 basketball league so the exercising wont be the problem, its the diet im worried about.

thanks for the input,
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Old 04-24-2005, 07:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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oooh.... yea trying to eat clean when you eat in the dining halls is rough! I couldn't really get a good diet going until i moved off campus and started cooking for myself.

Again, good luck, and I hope Lost Dog gets back to you soon!
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im most likely going to go with a smaller meal plan, probally just breakfast and just buy the rest of my food, cook chicken on the forman grill! [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-24-2005, 09:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It's pretty simple.

I always count calories.

I try to limit my starchy and/or grain based carbs to once per day, taking my fiber tablets with that meal.

I try to focus on lean meats, rather than the "any meats" of Adam's Diet.

I eat a lot of veggies, but limit my fruit to once per day. But, since I'm counting cals, I may have a second piece in the evening. I usually stick to small apples, melon, and berries, whenever possible.

During the day, I end up eating a lot of raw or cold veggies, pickled salads (the German in me...), cottage cheese, tuna, hardboiled eggs, cold chicken breast (cut up), etc.

I'm afraid there's nothing magical here. TAP levels are sorta my "upper limit" on carbs for the day. I'm afraid that by saying that I've mixed the two, that you might think there's more to it than there really is...
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Thanks for the reply lost dog. How is that arangement of the modified adam's diet, are you seeing good results?

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also if you dont mind can you post what you eat on a regular day?

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Today, I ate:

Omelette: 1 egg, 1 egg white, 4 oz lean turkey ham, 4.5 sundried tomatoes, 1 chopped tomato, 1 small onion, canola oil "Pam"

Pumpkin "Mousse": 1/4 can mashed pumpkin, 1 scoop vanilla whey, 1/4 cup part skim ricotta cheese, spices (cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg, etc.).

Pre, during, and post workout drinks: 460 calories, 76g C, 29g P (in total).

Salad and yogurt: 3 cups spinach, 4oz tomato, 1 tbsp balsamic vinegar, spices, 4 oz lean turkey ham, 1 low carb yoplait, German vegetable salad (pickled cabbage, peppers, etc.).

Dinner: 4 oz lean turkey pastrami, 1 can green beans, 5 oz raw broc.

I still have a snack to go. I may splurge and have 1/2 bag of Kettle Corn (about 180 calories) with the wife. If not, then it may be cottage cheese, yogurt, or a peanut butter wrap (low carb tortilla (45 cals), PB (95 cals), low carb jelly (10 cals).

Then before bed, I'll either have 1/2 cup cottage cheese or a small Protein shake (just the powder and water).

I also take 12 fish oil capsules (360mg combined dha/epa, each capsule), spread out amongst my meals/snacks.

That's about 2100 calories, total. 192g C/73g F/182g P/38g fiber.

I'm shooting for 2000 calories WITHOUT exercise. My lifting was about 250 calories or so, so I've still got a little leeway in case I get hungry, since I can eat about 2250 calories, if I want to.

Oh yeah, on non-lifting days, I usually have a small snack instead of the workout drinks.

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