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Old 04-09-2005, 08:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am going to begin a cutting phase and I am looking for the best supplement to help me maintain muscle and assist in burning fat.

Now, I know there’s no such thing as a drug that is going to shed the weight off without me doing anything, my diet and exercise program are ready to go. I bought some Thermo Gain the other day and ended up reading in several places, that it’s nothing but an overpriced, non-working, jar of caffeine, so it's going back, and I'm looking for something that works.

Here we go!
Name one and only one supplement that will help me reach my goal, and let’s here why you think it’s the best.
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Old 04-09-2005, 08:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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read this thread...

http://forums.jpfitness.com/noncgi/u.../t/001238.html
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Old 04-09-2005, 09:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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A 7' bar that you put metal plates on and lift repeatedly. All the other stuff only makes you lighter in the wallet.
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Old 04-09-2005, 09:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have been able to find a new and revolutionary supplement that is going to change the health and fitness industry forever. It will make people more healthy than ever before.

It's called Healthy Natural Food!! You would be amazed at the results.

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Old 04-09-2005, 10:41 AM   #5 (permalink)
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A 7' bar that you put metal plates on and lift repeatedly. All the other stuff only makes you lighter in the wallet.
Bulls eye!

Eat good, work hard, be patient.
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Old 04-09-2005, 11:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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This falls behind the others, but creatine helps maintain muscle mass while cutting. Take 3-5g per day, every day, workout or no.
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He already said that he is following a good diet and exercise plan. Yes, I agree that eating clean is 80% of the game, but there is room for supplements to aide the process along.
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thank you Ripstone and LostDog for the good answers!

As for you others, you did not answer the question properly! Most of the people that read my post know that I have been training my ass off, and my diet is about as tight as it’s going to get. You folks are wasting what valuable brainpower you have pumping a bunch of worthless information into a post that is looking for decent answers from people that know what they are talking about.

PLEASE READ AND ANCWER THE QUESTION OR LEAVE THIS THREAD!

Ripstone – this EC stack you are taking, what is it, not sure what you mean when saying EC?

LostDog – I am not currently taking any creatine, I have heard that some are better working than others, what do you recommend?

Everyone – Feel free to chime in with useful information about what supplements best assist fat burning and maintain muscle!

Thanks for the help everyone!
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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EC= ephedra and caffeine
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EC= ephedra and caffeine

If this is the case where can I get ephedra.

When taking Xendreine before I would show huge results, and I was only doing 1/3rd of the dose.
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No, we don't know you are working your ass off.

http://forums.jpfitness.com/noncgi/u.../t/003131.html

You never posted your workout, your diet or your stats. I bet we can find a lot of holes in there.

You're looking for a quick fix. There isn't any. The only supplements I have ever used are whey protein (and that is only in pre and post workout drinks) and creatine.

Read this from Berardi: Hard Body Manifesto I
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Post your workout, diet and stats so we can settle this. If there aren't any problems then I am sure the people that didn't answer your question the first time around will answer it.
One thing you should know about most of us here is that we try to help by improving the major parts of your lifestyle first (workout and diet). If those are in check then we can move onto the smaller things, things like supplements. They're just trying to give you the best help they can, and they can't do that by just suggesting supplements if they don't even know how everything else holds up.
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EC= ephedra and caffeine
Actually ephedra is illegal now. E is ephidrine(legal) which is very similar to ephedra.
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Have you tried looking at the FAQ pages?

People will continue to say that untill you actually break down and read them.
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LostDog – I am not currently taking any creatine, I have heard that some are better working than others, what do you recommend?
In effectiveness, I think that all creatine is about the same. Look for micronized creatine.

Here's one that Johnka reviewed (http://people.smu.edu/jowillia/consu...s/creatine.htm).

However, I think that they all do the same thing as long as you take the same amount. It's just the mixability/dissolvability that's different/better/worse.

I'd avoid the pre-mixed drinks and mixes, as they are very expensive per dose. Avoid liquids completely. Buy powders only.

If I find a big jar on sale, I buy it. I bought about a year's worth last month at a GNC for a mere $9.00! A huge tub that wasn't selling since they push the "fancy" ones as being more effective.

Target and Walmart even had good deals for a while, but now, they just have the more expensive mixes/drinks.
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Work hard.
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Oh yeah: while you're savoring one of those cups of green tea, read the topics/threads noted above.
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Fish oil seems to provide all sorts of benefits... for me as well as reports from others. I know you already said you eat well, but I thought maybe this could be considered a "supplement". A good balance of fats can help lead to fat loss and muscle gain, if only indirectly.
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Fish oil seems to provide all sorts of benefits... for me as well as reports from others. I know you already said you eat well, but I thought maybe this could be considered a "supplement". A good balance of fats can help lead to fat loss and muscle gain, if only indirectly.
Excellent point. I swallow 12 of those capsules a day.
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