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Old 01-17-2005, 11:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here’s a question for you all. I have had good results using JB’s concepts in eating. I would like to shake things up a little and try something else. It’s been about 6 months now that I’ve been eating this way and I’m growing tired of eating most meals that are different then my family (chicken, chicken, and more chicken), and basically eating separate meals from my them. I dusted off a copy of Lou’s TAP book and think that it may have some potential. However, there are fruit juices, jelly, and some other sugars in there that have me questioning if it would be a good plan. I can omit these things and substitute for them. But would I really have to? I have my body fat around 12% and would really like to add around 5 to 7 pounds without letting that body fat get to out of hand. What do you all think?


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Old 01-19-2005, 11:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Which Berardi plan were you following? There's definitely more out there than chicken breasts to eat. If you read some of his recent articles (Massive Eating Reloaded), then he gives you a template which you can use to fill in the blanks with a huge varietey of fruit, veggies, nuts, oils, fish and meat.
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Old 01-19-2005, 11:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Which Berardi plan were you following? There's definitely more out there than chicken breasts to eat. If you read some of his recent articles (Massive Eating Reloaded), then he gives you a template which you can use to fill in the blanks with a huge varietey of fruit, veggies, nuts, oils, fish and meat.

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Hey Jhonka!

I have read and re-read most of JB’s and your information on nutrition. I have used it quite well over the last 6 or so months. It’s all very good information. Let’s make that GREAT information! I have to say thank you to both of you for making it available!!!

I can’t say I followed an exact plan as I did the concepts of the seven habits along with nutrient timing. I never really cranked up the calories past what would be JB’s “Don’t Diet” plan, and cut back calories the last 6-7 weeks to loose a few percentage points in body fat. I have reached 12% and have seemed to stall. I figure I need to add a few more pounds of muscle to get lower. This was done while doing Lou and Ian’s BOM beginners program. I am currently in the 2nd week of the Intermediate program have my calories back up to around 2600 (I’m 165 @ 12%BF), looking to add a few pounds of muscle.

I eat cottage cheese, eggs, oats, chicken, tuna, salmon, steak, almonds, walnuts, cashews, every vegetable available, fruits, basically everything. I eat clean darn near 100% of the time. I did sneak in a few oatmeal cookies after a workout over the holidays.

It’s been over 6 months of eating this way and I guess what I’m after is a break from what seems to be constant eating, and mostly the same things. Every 2 hours is quite common for me to fit in all the P&C and P&F meals in the proper ratio. Chicken or lean burger/steak with a big pile of veggies is really the mainstay. While my family likes chicken and beef they don’t want it every night for dinner or while I’m P&Cing they are P&Fing and visa-versa. So there I sit eating MY dinner while they do something else. Sometimes I even get “THE EVIL LOOK” from my wife !

So, I looked at my bookcase and saw the old TAP book sitting there and I took a look and thought hey, I’m going to try this as a maintenance or bulking diet instead of a fat loss diet. But the juices, milk, sugars, syrups, and jelly have me concerned along with what would be a lower protein input and a higher fat input. I was just wondering if anyone else has tried this and if they had any luck with it.

I’ll take a look at Massive Eating Reloaded again, but I bet what I really need to do is get your Gourmet Nutrition book and adapt from there.


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Old 01-19-2005, 11:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 01-20-2005, 09:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Have you considered Adam's Diet? You can save your, optional, one meal a day with bread, tortilla, potato, etc. for the family dinner time. The rest of the day, is pretty low carb.

For you, it won't be too much different than the Don't Diet plan, except for a sort of "free meal" and no P/C meals. You still do the pre, during, and PWO drinks, though.

It's supposed to auto-regulate, so you won't have to count calories. Some people count them every once in a while to see how they are doing...
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BjsAust,

Yeah, why fight success huh? I'm going to order the book in a minute here. I will then see what I can do with what sounds like a great book!

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Old 01-20-2005, 09:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Adam's diet may come into play. Do you think it's considered a bulking and fat loss plan or just for fat loss? And I'm a counter, I just can't seam to stay away from doing that!


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Old 01-20-2005, 09:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey Johnka, I'm sorry I spelled your name wrong.

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