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Old 12-09-2004, 08:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i bought some protein powder the other day from a store in the mall(very embarrassing :-\) its gnc 100% whey protein and has 20 grams of protein(each scoop, right?)
ok, my question is.. i need 1 gram of protein for each pound i weight. i weigh just about 138, so that means i need 138 grams of protein if i want to put on muscle, right? well.. i was talking to some guy the other day at the gym and he mentioned for me to take protein suppliments. i told him i had the protein shake mix, and i asked how many times a day i should use this stuff. he told me this protein was differnt from portein found in meats or whatever.. so i should only use 2 scoops a day.
is he correct? be cause if so, why is the protein from this drink any differnt from the protein found in foods? and if hes wrong, should i really be using this stuff 7 times a day?!(140 grams of protein).. because that seems a little bit crazy. especially since this is 40 dollars a tub.

ok, my other question is about weight gainer. i was reading some other posts and read that weight gainer is good for people who are thin. but then in other post i read that weight gainer was bad because it has a lot of sugar. so.. should i use weight gainer or no? thanks for any help [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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First of all, you can get your protein powder online (and avoid the embarassment ) and save a tone of money.

Second, yes, you should be aiming for 138-150g of protein every day.

Third, he's right in that whey protein shouldn't be your main source of protein for the day. Whey digests more quickly than beef, chicken, fish or cottage cheese protein. That's why whey is perfect for your workout time (when you want it to surge through your body to your muscles) but not for the rest of the day.

Oh, and whey protein is a food. It's derived from other dairy products. So look at it as a powdered version of real food. That's what it is.

Finally, stay away from weight gainers. There are better, cheaper and healthier ways to gain weight. Fill your day with meats, fish/tuna, cottage cheese, peanut butter, vegetables, berries, sweet potatoes, brown rice, kidney beans, walnuts, almonds and the like, and you'll put on muscle!

Good luck!
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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so i should only use the protein shake when i work out, and get the rest of protein from foods?

and one more thing.. should i be gettnig this amount of protein even on the days i dont work out?

ok, so this is the last question this time [img]tongue.gif[/img] what are some good sites to get protein shakes from? i went to a few sites and they want like 35 dollars.. i much rather just go to the store and spend the extra 5 dollars instead of having to wait forever for it to come through the mail. the only downfall is the embarassment :-\
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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check this out:
http://www.proteinfactory.com/store/

In answer to your questions:

Yes, use your whey protein and carbs (like maltodextrin and dextrose) during/after your workout. The rest of the day should really be whole foods. [Look up maltodextrin and dextrose at the site I gave you. It's SUPER cheap.]

Also, yes to the every day thing. Days that you're not working out are days when you repair and grow. You need the protein to do so. Get your 138 every day!
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Just to put it in perspective:

I can of tuna : about 35g protein
6 oz. boneless chicken breast: 34g protein
1 cup low fat cottage cheese: 26g protein

That's 95g right there!

Add in a cup of milk and one decent size serving of lean beef and you're there! (Not to mention the protein you'll get from walnuts, almonds and peanut butter!)
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Should someone who is trying to keep lean but still gain muscle take both malto and dex with ur protein shake? Can you please give an example of what to take and when during the day to take protein, malto, and dex? thanks.
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Old 12-10-2004, 03:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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"Should someone who is trying to keep lean but still gain muscle take both malto and dex with ur protein shake?"

-yes, but only around the time you workout.

"Can you please give an example of what to take and when during the day to take protein, malto, and dex?"

-either right before, during or after you can have a shake with protein (usually whey) and a 50/50 mix of maltodextrin and dextrose. a popular formula for figuring it out is .8 grams of carbs per kilogram of bodyweight and .4 grams of protein per kilograms of bodyweight.

you may want to go to www.johnberardi.com and read some of the nutrition articles concerning pwo nutrition for a better understanding.

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