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Q-bert · 10-07-2004, 11:42 AM

Stock up. there is a bill before the house today that proposes making andro and all andro products illegal. The bill if signed, also makes punishement for steroid users significantly more harsh.

OldGuy · 10-07-2004, 12:04 PM

Looks like the Senate has done the same.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...056EDT0295.DTL

OK, now I could see keeping it away from kids. But if I'm over 21 I should have the right to decide what I want to take. Is the government protecting me from me?

Adam Campbell · 10-07-2004, 12:40 PM

I have an article about this coming up in a special edition of MF called Maximum Muscle. If this bill passes, you could go to jail for having ONE pill of andro (any prohomone really), even if you bought it BEFORE it became illegal.

An excerpt from the story, written by lawyer Rick Collins:

Pending congressional bills would re-define many prohormones to be anabolic steroids, which have been controlled substances under federal law since 1991. Controlled substances, including cocaine, heroin and LSD, have the potential for abuse that may lead to physical or psychological dependence.

... these bills would shove prohormones, like steroids, into the same schedule as barbiturates and narcotic painkillers such as Vicodin. Average Americans who possess prohormones would risk arrest and prosecution. Possessing a single andro tablet would be a federal crime punishable by up to a year in jail, even if you bought it prior to the change in the law. Distributing would be a felony punishable by up to five years in prison (10 years for a prior drug offender).

SCARY STUFF!

Jean-Paul · 10-07-2004, 12:48 PM

Upsetting for sure, but not surprising. Don't you all remember that in Bush's last SOU address that he went off on steroid use in sports and promised that this administration was going to stop it? (As if terrorism isn't a big enough hurdle to take on!) Not meaning to get too political, but I don't understand why these politicians can pat themselves on the back from saving us stupid people from ourselves, yet continue to be okay with big tobacco. Seems a bit hypocritical.

Ian Kay · 10-07-2004, 01:18 PM

I don't know very much about andro. But to play devil's advocate: Is the government not "protecting us from ourselves", but rather protecting us from those who profit from pushing/selling to teen athletes? If it is potentially dangerous, then teens shouldn't have it. If it's legal, it will run rampant. But if it's illegal, then (and I know it will still live on in the "black market") it will at least be harder to get?

Just a thought.

p.s. I know perfectly well that alcohol and cigarettes are only for those who are a certain age, yet kids still get them. And things like pot, acid, etc. are fairly available. But just because we have problems in those areas doesn't mean that we shouldn't nip other, potential problems in the bud.

Q-bert · 10-07-2004, 01:41 PM

Would DHEA be considered a pro-hormone?

Bond007 · 10-07-2004, 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by RockHard:
But if it's illegal, then (and I know it will still live on in the "black market") it will at least be harder to get?

No. It will just be more expensive and less likely to be "pure". So, those who still want to take PH's will be able to get them or cook them up in their garages, will still do it but they're taking a bigger chance with their lives.

Besides, wouldn't the US Government be cutting it's own throat by shutting down a multi-billion dollar industry for which it's currently collecting taxes? I wonder what will happen to the "average joe's" tax burden once those monies are no longer flowing into governmental coffers.

Just another thought....

Ian Kay · 10-07-2004, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Bond007:

quote:
Originally posted by RockHard:
But if it's illegal, then (and I know it will still live on in the "black market") it will at least be harder to get?

No. It will just be more expensive and less likely to be "pure". So, those who still want to take PH's will be able to get them or cook them up in their garages, will still do it but they're taking a bigger chance with their lives.

Besides, wouldn't the US Government be cutting it's own throat by shutting down a multi-billion dollar industry for which it's currently collecting taxes? I wonder what will happen to the "average joe's" tax burden once those monies are no longer flowing into governmental coffers.

Just another thought.... [/quote]I can see that.

I wonder if lawmakers are idealizing the word "illegal"... thinking that if something is officially outlawed that it will cease to be a problem.

I suppose it would be more sensible to keep it legal, but under the strict supervision of the FDA.

I had another sentence to type but I forgot... I think I'm getting sick again, my brain is fuzzed. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Bond007 · 10-07-2004, 02:39 PM

Actually, to elaborate even further, my company recently invited the State Police on site to give a seminar to management staff regarding illegal drugs. His comments were that there are SO many substances being trafficked (cocaine, marijuana, and meth, to be specific) that almost all others aren't even searched for anymore. He told us that steroid busts are rarely heard of because the law enforcement's efforts are on the "bigger" money and more deadly drugs. So, with an understaffed enforcement agency, no more money to fund additional officers, how in the world does Congress, in their infinite wisdom, plan on keeping PH's off the streets?

Why not just follow the leads of a few states in the nation that have already made PH's illegal to minors? Texas, I know, is one of them. You must be 19 to purchase a prohormone.