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08-18-2004, 09:34 AM
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I am going to start this diet starting at lunch today and see how I do over the next couple months. Hopefully I can get results like Torque got, as I would love to shed 5-10lbs of fat before my bday (9.28). Anyway, I had a few questions that I did not see answered in the other posts.
First, I do enjoy milk, so it says limit to one serving a day. Can this be at the same meal as the carb meal? (i.e. my wife usually makes chicken/turkey/beef with some sort of rice or potato)
Second, can one of the servings of fruit also be at this same meal? If so, is having the carb meal w/ milk & fruit too much for one meal?
Third, with coffee, I can have as much as I want as long as I use artificial sweeteners (i.e. Sweet & Low), correct? Can I use skim milk here as well as have it at another meal, since it is such a small serving of milk in my coffee?
With cheese, I can have as much as I want? (I really love cheese) And pepperoni as well? ( as I also love this)
I think that does it for now, sorry for the length and thanks for any help, I appreciate it.
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08-18-2004, 09:42 AM
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Realized a question I forgot. With the nuts, do walnuts count? Also, how much is 1 serving of nuts? Do peanuts in plastic bags count or is it supposed to be more like dry roasted peanuts? Thanks again for any help.
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08-18-2004, 10:06 AM
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I hope Adam and or JP will chime in here, but I'll let you know what thoughts are and what I'm doing.
"First, I do enjoy milk, so it says limit to one serving a day. Can this be at the same meal as the carb meal? (i.e. my wife usually makes chicken/turkey/beef with some sort of rice or potato)"
-I would say it's preferable to have your carbs at the same time. I try to have my carb meal right after my workouts, but I don't sweat it if it's at a different time. (Same goes for the fruit question).
"Third, with coffee, I can have as much as I want as long as I use artificial sweeteners (i.e. Sweet & Low), correct? Can I use skim milk here as well as have it at another meal, since it is such a small serving of milk in my coffee?"
- I would say that a little milk in your coffee would be fine.
"With cheese, I can have as much as I want? (I really love cheese) And pepperoni as well? ( as I also love this)"
-Yep, I found this turkey pepperoni that is awesome. I'm addicted now.
"With the nuts, do walnuts count? Also, how much is 1 serving of nuts? Do peanuts in plastic bags count or is it supposed to be more like dry roasted peanuts?"
-Yes walnuts are awesome. One serving is about a quarter cup or 14 halves. Peanuts count as well, just don't eat the honey roasted kind. I feel like I'm putting the squirels out of business [img]smile.gif[/img]
Hope this helps.
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08-18-2004, 10:31 AM
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Thanks for the post Torque, that seems to answer my questions, but feel free anyone else if you feel like chiming in. Thanks again.
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08-18-2004, 11:20 AM
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I think Torque answered those great. Don't worry too much about the milk. Like I said a lot of the purpose of the recommendations was to make it simplistic. I'd say that dairy like milk is not a bad way to "break the rules". That said, it all goes back to changing the recommendations which changes the principles. If you eat a couple of servings of cottage cheese AND a couple of servings of milk, etc, you're drifting farther away from the original plan. So I'd say just watch how lenient with the rules that you become or that you might want to count calories the more carbs you add into the diet. Protein, fat, fructose (fruits), and high fiber/low calorie (veggies) foods don't stimulate much or any insulin response, so you really want to stick with those as much as possible. Interestingly, cream would be a better choice in your copy than skim milk [img]smile.gif[/img]
Also, I feel like I have to stick this disclaimer on every post (although this will be the last time): I'm not demonizing foods, only trying to suggest ways to maximize the rate of fat loss. You could drink milk at every meal and get very good results. (The milk recommendation was originally a carb content issue based on a VERY low carb (ketogenic) diet--but I've come to like the idea of limiting food if it doesn't fulfill one of the following:
*very low glycemic
*relatively high in fiber
*high in fat/very low in carbs (less than 2g)
*high in protein/very low in carbs (less than 2g)
*no calories
It sort of ensures that you get the most bang from your buck from everything you put your in your mouth. That is, you're either eating protein or fat, which are filling or a food that is high in fiber, which is also filling--and nothing that stimulates a large spike in insulin.
For instance,nuts are allowed b/c they are in high in fiber and high in good fat, even though they have just a couple of less carbs than a glass of milk. Milk doesn't have fiber and gets the greatest percentage of calories from carbs. Of course, it does have a nice amount of fat and protein. But overall, it's not as strong of a choice on an auto-regulatory diet as nuts. Beans are a great food, but they're also packed with starch which means they're high in carbohydrate. If you allow those, then that's an easy way to increase total calorie content. So part of the trick to the plan is simply calorie regulation, which you could do with a very low-fat diet as well. However, that presents a whole other set of problems, particulary chronically elevated insulin levels (unless you're very careful) and the fact that some fats are essential. It also limits your protein sources, so it can be an even more restrictive diet.
I'm not sure I explained all that very well. But like I said before, as you cut out back on the "rules" you allow for a greater margin of error.
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08-18-2004, 11:59 AM
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Thanks Adam, that was very helpful as well. It's always good to know why things work the way they do instead of just knowing they do. I will see how I do with this diet, as I usually don't have very good success. I lost 12 pounds in the first month or so of working out, then was off for awhile. Now that I am back working out, I have gained back about 3 pounds, though it could be mostly in muscle. My bf is only 11%, but it is all in my gut, so I think this diet will definitly help me to get rid of the fat there. Thanks again for all the help.
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08-18-2004, 12:04 PM
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Good luck and keep us updated!
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It's always good to know why things work the way they do instead of just knowing they do.
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I agree. Unfortunately, book publishers don't thinks so [img]smile.gif[/img]
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08-18-2004, 09:57 PM
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Well, trust me stick, stick to this diet and you will lose weight, ive been on this diet for about a month now and have lost around 9...10 pounds, One of the easiest diets EVER! Big Thanks To Adam.
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