"Adam's Diet" Thread

[apurva]

Originally Posted by Lost Dog

I think it looks like a pretty healthy diet.

How much fruit does Adam say? I think it's 2 servings.

Also, the beans in the salad... If it's just a few, like a garnish, it's fine, but if it's a serving of beans, then that's two starchy carb meals for the day. One too many to call it Adam's Diet.

Personally, I'd swap some of the fruit for more veggies. Some veggies at breakfast. Veggies fill me up. Fruit makes me hungry. That's just me.

It looks healthy, so I feel bad nitpicking it...

i think he says two and i dont know how he feels about yogurt or cottage cheese. but the turkey sandwich might stay. the beans are mainly garnish. sometimes in the am ill have broccoli with the eggs, lately it's been a big juicy organic apple - nothing tastes better than organic fruit.

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[Lost Dog]

I can't find the specific post, but he said that yogurt, cottage cheese, and even milk was okay, provided that it was working. But, it's not typically recommended, as they might not fill you up like more solid protein sources can.

If you diverge from the food choices in the diet too much, you lose the "built in" self-regulating factor. It can still work, but who knows. Like those people who say they went on the Atkins Diet and only ate some bread, here and there. A chip or two. Milk... Suddenly, the Atkins Diet didn't work for them. Only it's not the Atkins Diet, anymore.

The diet works by picking food choices that tend to get you to eat fewer calories, but without forcing you to count calories. You could always follow your dietary plan, but count calories, too. Particularly if you find that it's not working to your satisfaction.

As to organic fruit... In my blind taste tests, it always tied with conventionally grown fruit. Farmer's market fruits (which tend to be fresher) often taste better, though. Especially the tomato, since they are often the ones too ripe to sell to stores.

I'm all for organic, when it's available and cost effective, but I believe the "better taste" of organic* is mostly psychological.

* Not to be confused with free range, pasture grazed, etc. In animals, these terms mean more for flavor than the term "organic." IMO

[apurva]

Originally Posted by Lost Dog

I can't find the specific post, but he said that yogurt, cottage cheese, and even milk was okay, provided that it was working. But, it's not typically recommended, as they might not fill you up like more solid protein sources can.

If you diverge from the food choices in the diet too much, you lose the "built in" self-regulating factor. It can still work, but who knows. Like those people who say they went on the Atkins Diet and only ate some bread, here and there. A chip or two. Milk... Suddenly, the Atkins Diet didn't work for them. Only it's not the Atkins Diet, anymore.

The diet works by picking food choices that tend to get you to eat fewer calories, but without forcing you to count calories. You could always follow your dietary plan, but count calories, too. Particularly if you find that it's not working to your satisfaction.

As to organic fruit... In my blind taste tests, it always tied with conventionally grown fruit. Farmer's market fruits (which tend to be fresher) often taste better, though. Especially the tomato, since they are often the ones too ripe to sell to stores.

I'm all for organic, when it's available and cost effective, but I believe the "better taste" of organic* is mostly psychological.

* Not to be confused with free range, pasture grazed, etc. In animals, these terms mean more for flavor than the term "organic." IMO

If I remember, Adam's dairy limit was 1 serving if you "like" milk. But i agree with you, changes yes, but then it's not the "diet" as prescribed.

Hmm on the organic comparision, with apples especially, the organic ones taste juicier and fresher and have a distinct flavor as opposed to the normal ones, which have a bland taste, again this maybe geographical, in season vs out of season or taste bud differences, i dont know.

[Schlutes]

What's the reason behind the fiber supp before the carb meal? I can't seem to figure that part out? Does it mitigate the insulin resonse?

[ParanoidAndroid]

Originally Posted by Schlutes

What's the reason behind the fiber supp before the carb meal? I can't seem to figure that part out? Does it mitigate the insulin resonse?

correct. and it slows down the digestion of the meal.(same thing really)

[Angel Rising]

I was considering going on this diet after reading through many body comp diets and the like. Just needed to ask a few questions first though.

1. Are peas ok to eat. i love to eat them frozen and have started to have a cup full in place of a serve of rice (lunch/dinner)?

2. What is the take on yoghurt....I like to have a serve a day with protein poweder as a snack? Would that just count as my milk once a day serve? And is this enough calcium?

3. What is your take on soy protein? I usually use soy protein isolate as my protein powder?

4. I have a fair amount of fat to lose but wouldn't mind gaining some muscle too....is this diet just for fat loss....and if i was doing body comp training (EDT/TT/Meltdown training) would i want to eat below maintenance or above (I know it says you don't have to count calories) but as a general guide I'd love to know some thoughts?

5. What do you do about training PWO meals etc if you work out twice a day?

6. Is 'Sustagen good for post/during/pre workout nutrition?

Thanks to anyone who replies. I am starting to get my training into gear but it is definately my nutrition I need help with...

As I stated i need to lose fat, but I definately cannot afford to lose muscle and need to gain some....just thought i'd throw that in so that people know where I am coming from

[Lost Dog]

Originally Posted by Angel Rising

I was considering going on this diet after reading through many body comp diets and the like. Just needed to ask a few questions first though.

1. Are peas ok to eat. i love to eat them frozen and have started to have a cup full in place of a serve of rice (lunch/dinner)?

2. What is the take on yoghurt....I like to have a serve a day with protein poweder as a snack? Would that just count as my milk once a day serve? And is this enough calcium?

3. What is your take on soy protein? I usually use soy protein isolate as my protein powder?

4. I have a fair amount of fat to lose but wouldn't mind gaining some muscle too....is this diet just for fat loss....and if i was doing body comp training (EDT/TT/Meltdown training) would i want to eat below maintenance or above (I know it says you don't have to count calories) but as a general guide I'd love to know some thoughts?

5. What do you do about training PWO meals etc if you work out twice a day?

6. Is 'Sustagen good for post/during/pre workout nutrition?

Thanks to anyone who replies. I am starting to get my training into gear but it is definately my nutrition I need help with...

As I stated i need to lose fat, but I definately cannot afford to lose muscle and need to gain some....just thought i'd throw that in so that people know where I am coming from

1. Yep. Peas can be your starchy carb. Pea pods/snap peas are on the border. You generally eat so little of the actual peas and more of the pods.

2. Enough calcium? Probably.

3. Why soy? If possible, go with a milk based protein for your powder. If you can't then soy is ok. Also look into pea, rice, and hemp proteins.

4. There have been people who have lost fat and gained muscle on Adam's Diet. To do so, I would save my carby meals for the meal immediately following your weight workouts. The size of the meal is something to experiment. This period provides the opportunity to really put those carbs and protein to work.

5. Two weight workouts? If so, and you really think you are working out hard enough, then do the workout drinks twice. If one workout is cardio, then skip the workout drinks for that workout.

6. Sustagen Sport? Do you have the nutrition and ingredients? I can't find it on the web.

[Angel Rising]

Just wanted to know about serving sizes and portions etc.

What is a serving of grains? Is it half a cup or a cup or what?

What about sunflower seeds?

And of course nuts?

And why can you have heaps of cheese but no (or very little) milk?

Cheers

[Lost Dog]

Originally Posted by Angel Rising

Just wanted to know about serving sizes and portions etc.

What is a serving of grains? Is it half a cup or a cup or what?

What about sunflower seeds?

And of course nuts?

And why can you have heaps of cheese but no (or very little) milk?

Cheers

Not sure. I think a serving of oatmeal is 1/2 cup of rolled oats (dry). 2oz of dry pasta. I usually go with 100-150 calories worth of whatever carb, as a serving.

1/4 cup is the serving size for nuts or seeds. That's shelled, of coarse. Shelled sunflower seeds would be about 3/4 cup. I eat a lot of these, since they take longer to eat. I can spread out my 3/4 for the whole day, practically.

Cheese has very few carbs, since the cheese making bacteria eat up all the carbs while making the cheese. Plus, milk is not very filling. The diet's not just about low carb, but also about choosing foods that are satiating.

[Angel Rising]

Are heavy creams, sour cream etc. ok to eat on this diet?

I know that on a keto type diet they are allowable but since this is more low carb I wasn't sure.

I probably won't be eating any dairy or fruit and no gains but heaps of vegies, meat, eggs, cheese and the occasional serve of nuts/seeds.

PLus i like to have the cream in my coffee and the sour cream on my vegies....as well as other low carb (but occasionally high fat dressings)

Apologies if this has already been addressed in the thread.....



And what about things like pork crackle (the kind you buy in packets) is this ok too?

[Lost Dog]

Originally Posted by Angel Rising

Are heavy creams, sour cream etc. ok to eat on this diet?

I know that on a keto type diet they are allowable but since this is more low carb I wasn't sure.

I probably won't be eating any dairy or fruit and no gains but heaps of vegies, meat, eggs, cheese and the occasional serve of nuts/seeds.

PLus i like to have the cream in my coffee and the sour cream on my vegies....as well as other low carb (but occasionally high fat dressings)

Apologies if this has already been addressed in the thread.....



And what about things like pork crackle (the kind you buy in packets) is this ok too?

Those things are all good. Sounds like a good plan.

As to the pork skins, they're fine. Just don't think you're getting much usable protein from them. The protein in skin (and jello) is collagen and not all that good, as far as protein goes.

Basically, they are an occasional snack, but can't really count as your meat source.

[Schlutes]

I've been on this for two months and dropped some body fat and few lb's but more body fat than anything (which is ideal). However, I've kind of stalled out and am not losing. Any suggestions? Should I increase my calorie intake for a while than cut it back again? If so, can I use carbs to increase my caloric intake.

I'm thinking I might want to bump up my caloric intake to increase my metabolism, then cut the calories and burn so more fat.

Any ideas?????

[Lost Dog]

How long has the stall been going on?

Try to track your food for a few days to see how much you are actually eating. Don't change anything.

Do you use fitday.com at all? It's free.

[Schlutes]

Stall has been at least two weeks. I have an account at fitday - I'll start tracking again.

I've experienced this before. It's almost like I have a "bottom" to my bodyfat% that is extremely tought to break through.

[Lost Dog]

If you've been eating your carb meal and doing the workout drinks, I don't think you should go with more carbs. If anything, I'd add a little more food for a while, but if you have the patience, track for a week and let's see where you stand.

These plateaus are common. I've had them that last a month or more (not that you want to hear that).

What types of exercise are you doing? Weights. Cardio. Intervals. How often for each?

Sometimes doing more or different exercises can stir things up, too.

[Schlutes]

Originally Posted by Lost Dog

What types of exercise are you doing? Weights. Cardio. Intervals. How often for each?

Sometimes doing more or different exercises can stir things up, too.

Weights 4x a week - currently Waterbury's ABB

Cardio - interval 2X only 15 - 20 minutes after weights

Muay Thai - 2X per week for one hour

[Lost Dog]

That seems really good. I guess all we can do is look to the food log and tme for info.

Are you feeling like you have energy or feeling rundown?