"Adam's Diet" Thread

[Ogedei]

Not sure about wine and carbs. Beer has carbs and alcohol, whiskey and diet coke just has alcohol, so in terms of low carb goodness whiskey and diet coke win, but neither of them are good for you diet wise.

Yogurt itself isn't bad, but I think those would fall under simple carbs and should be avoided. or limited to your dairy serving.

Carbs are pretty simple under Adam's diet. Veggies = good, fruit = ok. other sources = not good.

[laxcdn]

Originally Posted by Lost Dog

My Dad has very high cholesterol. The doctor told him to cut down on the eggs. He was eating 3 egg omelettes, four times per week. No change when he dropped the eggs.

I haven't followed this much, since I don't have high cholesterol, but I read that "they" now believe that dietary cholesterol has little to do with your own cholesterol.

I get confused about the whole thing. I've also heard that saturated fat causes high cholesterol. Then, I heard that saturated fats are bad for the general population because they are eating IN CONJUNCTION with high carb diets. Like in the infamous "carrot cake and milkshake" test from the study in this thread.

So, it makes me think that it's more the combination of foods that we eat, compared to other cultures (or just other people). But, there's no study for this yet. Who wants to fund the "let's track cholesterol when eating eggs benedict vs spinach omelettes" study?

I had high cholestoral and I fixed my eating and started exercising again and it dropped. It was at the point the Dr was going to put me on medication and I said no. I basically cut all fats, good and bad, down to 11% or so and cut out sugary foods. Now it is in the lower end of normal. When I eat eggs I only have one yolk per 4-5 eggs. I also make sure I am getting stuff that is non-hydrogenated and uses canola oil or other good oils. Carbs can also affect cholestoral I was told.

[laxcdn]

Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid

yeah the carbo complex should be fine.

Good luck!

When I was on TT for Mass, Craig suggested apple's and banana's instead of malto/dextrose. I told him I gained fat easy and he suggested that.

[CaptainSlow]

Well after being on this diet for about a week I thought I might share how it's going as well as some of the concerns I have.

So far the scale says I have lost about 10 lbs but I'm guessing most of that is water weight. I am enjoying the foods I am allowed to eat and I'm usually never hungry after a meal. However, there have been some issues.

Most days I feel very weak, tired, and sometimes dizzy when I move around. This has been most apparent at the gym. I still cannot lift as much as I could before (3 sets of 8 reps of benchpress @ 225 lbs before, and now I can barely finish 3 sets of 8) and I don't have that extra reserve when I'm at the end of a set. For example, I used to be able to push out the last rep or two of my second or third rep but now I try I can't push it out no matter how much I try; it's like there's nothing left in the "tank". I would hate to have this low carb diet affect all the work I have put into the gym over the last few years (when I started going to the gym I could barely benchpress 45 lbs). I was doing some brief searches on the Net about low carb diets and some sites stated that because I do not have any carbohydrates for fuel my body is going to my muscles for fuel with means I am losing muscle mass? Is this true?

Should this type of feeling be going away soon? Will I get my strength back (i.e. not feeling weak and having nothing left in the "tank")? Is it even worth continuing this diet if my strength/muscles are being negatively affected?

There is nothing I would like more than to lose weight (255 lbs now @ 6' 3") but if it's at the cost of my health (tired, weak, dizzy) or my strength (i.e. muscles, weightlifting amount) I would rather eat the carbs.

Any thoughts?

[ParanoidAndroid]

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

Well after being on this diet for about a week I thought I might share how it's going as well as some of the concerns I have.

So far the scale says I have lost about 10 lbs but I'm guessing most of that is water weight. I am enjoying the foods I am allowed to eat and I'm usually never hungry after a meal. However, there have been some issues.

Most days I feel very weak, tired, and sometimes dizzy when I move around. This has been most apparent at the gym. I still cannot lift as much as I could before (3 sets of 8 reps of benchpress @ 225 lbs before, and now I can barely finish 3 sets of 8) and I don't have that extra reserve when I'm at the end of a set. For example, I used to be able to push out the last rep or two of my second or third rep but now I try I can't push it out no matter how much I try; it's like there's nothing left in the "tank". I would hate to have this low carb diet affect all the work I have put into the gym over the last few years (when I started going to the gym I could barely benchpress 45 lbs). I was doing some brief searches on the Net about low carb diets and some sites stated that because I do not have any carbohydrates for fuel my body is going to my muscles for fuel with means I am losing muscle mass? Is this true?

Should this type of feeling be going away soon? Will I get my strength back (i.e. not feeling weak and having nothing left in the "tank")? Is it even worth continuing this diet if my strength/muscles are being negatively affected?

There is nothing I would like more than to lose weight (255 lbs now @ 6' 3") but if it's at the cost of my health (tired, weak, dizzy) or my strength (i.e. muscles, weightlifting amount) I would rather eat the carbs.

Any thoughts?

Are you eating enough, especially fats? You need fats for energy. maybe count calories for a couple days to see if you are eating enough.This thread explains it quite nicely.

Also, are you having a carb/protein drink during your workout? that helps out a lot.

Hope this helps.

[CaptainSlow]

Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid

Are you eating enough, especially fats? You need fats for energy. maybe count calories for a couple days to see if you are eating enough.This thread explains it quite nicely.

Also, are you having a carb/protein drink during your workout? that helps out a lot.

Hope this helps.

I think I am getting enough fat. I'm following Adam's guidlines very closely; eating eggs and plenty of cheese (cheese at every meal basically).

I am having my carb/protein drink during my workout but it doesn't seem to have any affect on me.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

I think I am getting enough fat. I'm following Adam's guidlines very closely; eating eggs and plenty of cheese (cheese at every meal basically).

I am having my carb/protein drink during my workout but it doesn't seem to have any affect on me.

Ok, here what I can think the problems may be
-make sure your getting enough omega 3's(take fish oil)
-make sure your getting some monosaturated fats(nuts, Peanut butter, olive oil)
-are you getting enough sleep?
-How much carbs are you eating? Are you eating any grains or fruit? What about veggies?
-try eating a bit more.

I would try the diet for another week or two and see if your body acclimates to fat as an energy source. If you feel better, great. If you still feel like crap, maybe add some carbs in slowly.(fruits, oatmeal, stuff like that.)

[cdkrug]

Question about Nutrient Timing

I'm starting intervals tomorrow, lifting Sunday, and resuming Karate on Monday.

In general:

Lifting followed by intervals Sn-T-Th
Karate M-W -- We train fairly intense, but nowhere NEAR like a lifting/interval day.

Should I do the carb-protein drinks on Interval Only Days and Karate days, or just on lifting days?



Thanks

[ParanoidAndroid]

depends-what are your goals? How long are you doing karate for? How long are you doing intervals for?

[Lost Dog]

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

Well after being on this diet for about a week I thought I might share how it's going as well as some of the concerns I have.

So far the scale says I have lost about 10 lbs but I'm guessing most of that is water weight. I am enjoying the foods I am allowed to eat and I'm usually never hungry after a meal. However, there have been some issues.

Most days I feel very weak, tired, and sometimes dizzy when I move around. This has been most apparent at the gym. I still cannot lift as much as I could before (3 sets of 8 reps of benchpress @ 225 lbs before, and now I can barely finish 3 sets of 8) and I don't have that extra reserve when I'm at the end of a set. For example, I used to be able to push out the last rep or two of my second or third rep but now I try I can't push it out no matter how much I try; it's like there's nothing left in the "tank". I would hate to have this low carb diet affect all the work I have put into the gym over the last few years (when I started going to the gym I could barely benchpress 45 lbs). I was doing some brief searches on the Net about low carb diets and some sites stated that because I do not have any carbohydrates for fuel my body is going to my muscles for fuel with means I am losing muscle mass? Is this true?

Should this type of feeling be going away soon? Will I get my strength back (i.e. not feeling weak and having nothing left in the "tank")? Is it even worth continuing this diet if my strength/muscles are being negatively affected?

There is nothing I would like more than to lose weight (255 lbs now @ 6' 3") but if it's at the cost of my health (tired, weak, dizzy) or my strength (i.e. muscles, weightlifting amount) I would rather eat the carbs.

Any thoughts?

One week's not really enough to know, but I'd say a 10lbs loss would indicate that you aren't eating enough. That will definately sap your strength.

Then, even if you are eating enough, the switch to lower carbs can give you lower strength levels until you get used to it. They should come back.

[CaptainSlow]

Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid

Ok, here what I can think the problems may be
-make sure your getting enough omega 3's(take fish oil)
-make sure your getting some monosaturated fats(nuts, Peanut butter, olive oil)
-are you getting enough sleep?
-How much carbs are you eating? Are you eating any grains or fruit? What about veggies?
-try eating a bit more.

I would try the diet for another week or two and see if your body acclimates to fat as an energy source. If you feel better, great. If you still feel like crap, maybe add some carbs in slowly.(fruits, oatmeal, stuff like that.)

I'll pick up some fish oils tomorrow from the store.

I don't get my serving of nuts every day because most of the time I'm fairly full.

Because I'm on a vacation right now my sleep pattern has been screwed up. Go to sleep at 3AM and wake up at 9AM. I'm trying to change that.

I'm not eating very many carbs. The only large amount I have is 30g pre/during workout and then another 30g after my workout.

For veggies I usually have a cup of peppers in the morning with my three egg cheese omlette then for dinner I have either spinach and tuna or chicken breast (2) with 2 cups of mixed vegetables (cauliflower, brocoli, carrots, yellow carrots). The only fruit I have are pears (one a day) and zero grains.

I have some low carb bread (8g per slice - 1.5g of fibre) that I may start eating. I'm thinking one slice with organic peanut butter with my breakfast and then another slice with peanut butter with my lunch.

And I am trying my best to eat as much of the good foods as I can so I hope that's not the case. Here's my usual menu:

Breakfast
3 x large egg omlett
2-3 slices of cheese (mostly inside the omlette)
1 cup peppers

Workout
20g protein + 30 g maltodextrin + water

Post Workout
20g protein + 30g maltodextrin + water

Lunch
Cottage Cheese (1 cup)
2 slices of cheese
1 pair

Dinner
2 cups steamed vegetables
2 chicken breast OR plate of spinach + tuna
1 cup green peppers

Before sleep
30g protein + water

To be honest the only difference between this diet and what I was eating normally, along with rarely eating vegetables, was after each workout and 2 hours before bed I would have the following protein shake:

1 cup milk
30g protein
2 x banana
1 tablespoon of peanut butter
all mixed in a blender.

[CaptainSlow]

I added my daily menu to my post above. I'm not sure where exactly I could fit more food in but if you guys have any comments or suggestions please let me know.

As I stated, I may try adding in two slices of low carb bread (1 slice in the morning, 1 slice lunch/evening with organic peanut butter as a topping. Think this is a good idea or should I limit it to one or two pieces at one meal as Adam stated in his outline.

On a side note, I have only lost 6-7 pounds not 10 pounds as I quoted earlier (mental mistake).

[ParanoidAndroid]

maybe put in some snacks between meals.(cheese sticks, nuts, beef jerky, ect.)

sleep could also be a huge factor.

[cdkrug]

Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid

depends-what are your goals? How long are you doing karate for? How long are you doing intervals for?

In order:

I'm trying to cut from 247 to 200-ish. I'm going to be doing the NROL Fatloss series (I-III) for the next 4-5 months. I'm roughly "Lifter 4" if you know the book.

Karate runs a hour and a half, and is USUALLY much less intense than lifting, particularly when I'm doing NROL Fatloss, but that all depends on who's leading that day.

I'm doing about half an hour of intervals, following Alwyn's Human Inferno protocol.

[CaptainSlow]

I entered in a typical day of eating into fitday.com to give you guys a better idea on my eating habits.

http://fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJourn...er=CaptainSlow

[ParanoidAndroid]

Originally Posted by cdkrug

In order:

I'm trying to cut from 247 to 200-ish. I'm going to be doing the NROL Fatloss series (I-III) for the next 4-5 months. I'm roughly "Lifter 4" if you know the book.

Karate runs a hour and a half, and is USUALLY much less intense than lifting, particularly when I'm doing NROL Fatloss, but that all depends on who's leading that day.

I'm doing about half an hour of intervals, following Alwyn's Human Inferno protocol.

for intervals, a piece of fruit and whey is fine. Not sure about Karate. Try fruit/whey, and if that feels fine, keep it.

[cdkrug]

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