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Old 04-27-2004, 11:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

I am a big time fish eater. Recently while doing a search on sources of Omega 3 fatty acids, I came across an article which says fish is not good for health at all. Here is what it has to say. Need your opinion. Is this correct information? -Thanks.

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Essential Fatty Acids

Essential Fatty Acid Basics
The body can synthesize some of the fats it needs from the foods you eat. However, two essential fatty acids cannot be synthesized in the body and can be taken in the diet from plant foods. Their names-linolenic and linoleic acid-are not important. What is important is that these basic fats are used to build specialized fats called omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids.1

Omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids are important in the normal functioning of all tissues of the body. Deficiencies are responsible for a host of symptoms and disorders including abnormalities in the liver and kidney, changes in the blood, reduced growth rates, decreased immune function, depression, and skin changes, including dryness and scaliness. Adequate intake of the essential fatty acids results in numerous health benefits. Prevention of atherosclerosis, reduced incidence of heart disease and stroke, and relief from the symptoms associated with ulcerative colitis, menstrual pain, and joint pain have also been documented. 2,3, 4

While supplements and added oils are not typically necessary in the vegetarian diet, good sources of omega-3 and omega-6 fats should be included daily. It is important to take these two fats in the proper ratio as well. Omega-6 fatty acids compete with omega-3 fatty acids for use in the body, and therefore excessive intake of omega-6 fatty acids can be a problem. The U.S. diet has become heavy in omega-6 fats and low in omega-3 fats, secondary to a reliance on processed foods and oils. It is necessary to balance this by eating a low-fat diet that is low in processed foods and with fat mainly coming from omega-3 fatty acids.

Omega-6 Fatty Acids
Omega-6 fats are found in leafy vegetables, seeds, nuts, grains, and vegetable oils (corn, safflower, soybean, cottonseed, sesame, sunflower). Other omega-6 fatty acids, such as gamma-linolenic acid (GLA), can be found in more rare oils, including black currant, borage, evening primrose, and hemp oils.3 Most diets provide adequate amounts of omega-6 fatty acids.

Plant Foods Rich in Omega-3 Fatty Acids

Green leafy vegetables (lettuce, broccoli, kale, purslane, spinach, etc.)

Legumes (mungo*, kidney, navy, pinto, or lima beans, peas or split peas, etc.)

Citrus fruits, melons, cherries

Ground flaxseed

* Mungo beans are particularly high in omega-3 fatty acids. They are sold in many Indian groceries and may be found under the name "urid."



Omega-3 Fatty Acids
It is important for vegetarians to include foods that are rich in omega-3 fatty acids on a daily basis. Alpha-linolenic acid, a common omega-3 fatty acid, is found in many vegetables, beans, nuts, seeds, and fruits. The best source of alpha-linolenic acid is flaxseeds or flaxseed oil. More concentrated sources can be found in oils such as canola (also known as rapeseed), soybean, walnut, and wheat germ. Omega-3 fatty acids can be found in smaller quantities in nuts, seeds, and soy products, as well as beans, vegetables, and whole grains. Corn, safflower, sunflower, and cottonseed oils are generally low in omega-3s.

Omega-3 Content of Natural Oils5,6

Flaxseed 53-62%

Linseed 53%

Canola 11%

Walnut 10%

Wheat germ 7%

Soybean 7%



Flaxseeds for Omega-3s
Flaxseed oil and ground flaxseeds are particularly good choices to meet your needs for omega-3 fatty acids. One teaspoonful of flaxseed oil or a tablespoonful of ground flaxseed will supply the daily requirement of alpha-linolenic acid. To protect it from oxygen damage, flaxseed oil or ground flax seed must be stored in the refrigerator or the freezer. Use a little in dressings for salads or baked potatoes. Don't try to cook with this oil, however, as heat damages its omega-3s.For you to absorb what you need from flaxseeds, theymust be ground. Simply put fresh flaxseeds in a spice or coffee grinder for a few seconds. Some people grind a cup every week or so and store it in the freezer. A spoonful can be added to a smoothie or sprinkled on breakfast cereal, a salad, or other dish.

Pregnancy and Lactation
In pregnancy and lactation, it is especially important to obtain adequate essential fatty acids from the diet. Recent research suggests that pregnant women may have increased needs for these fatty acids, as they are needed for fetal growth, brain development, learning, and behavior. Essential fatty acids are also important for the infant after birth for growth and proper development, as well as the normal functioning of all tissues of the body. Infants receive essential fatty acids through breast milk, so it is important that the mother's diet contain a good supply of omega-3s. Pregnant somen and lactating mothers may also opt to take a DHA supplment (DHA, or docosahexaenoic acid, is a form of omega-3 fatty acids). A DHA supplement based on cultured microalgae, under the trademark Neuromins, is available in many natural food stores.

Fish for Essential Fatty Acids?
Some people may have heard that fish are good sources of essential fatty acids. However, the high amounts of fat and cholesterol and the lack of fiber make fish a poor choice. Fish are also often high in mercury and other environmental toxins that have no place in an optimal diet.

Fish oils have been popularized as an aid against everything from heart problems to arthritis. The bad news about fish oils is that omega-3s in fish oils are highly unstable molecules that tend to decompose and, in the process, unleash dangerous free radicals. Research has shown that omega-3s are found in a more stable form in vegetables, fruits, and beans.7, 8

Whether you are interested in promoting cardiovascular health, ensuring the proper growth and development of your child, or relieving pain, a vegetarian diet rich in fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, and legumes can help you achieve adequate intake of the essential fatty acids.

References
1. Groff JL, Gropper SS, Hunt SM. Advanced Nutrition and Human Metabolism. West Publishing Company, New York, 1995.
2. Linscheer WG, Vergroesen AJ. Lipids. In: Modern Nutrition in Health and Disease. Shils ME, Olson JA, Shike M, eds. Lea and Febiger, Philadelphia, 1994.
3. Barnard N. Foods That Fight Pain. Harmony Books, New York, 1998.
4. Omega-3 fatty acids and depression: new data. Harv Ment Helath Lett 2003 Jun;19(12):7.
5. Hunter JE. n-3 Fatty acids from vegetable oils. Am J Clin Nutr 1990;51:809-14.
6. Mantzioris E, James MJ, Gibson RA, Cleland LG. Dietary substitution with an alpha-linolenic acid-rich vegetable oil increases eicosapentaenoic acid concentrations in tissues. Am J Clin Nutr 1994;59:1304-9.
7. Odeleye OE, Watson RR. Health implications of the n-3 fatty acids. Am J Clin Nutr 1991;53:177-8.
8. Kinsella JE. Reply to O Odeleye and R Watson. Am J Clin Nutr 1991;53:178.
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You have to consider the source of that article.

PCRM is an impressive sounding title, but this is actually a group with strong ties to PETA, so don't expect them to have anything nice to say about meat or fish.
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A good part of that information is correct, but as was pointed out, you need to consider the source. Eating a mix of fish, flaxseed, soy, and other items, all in moderation, is probably the wisest course.

Ruma, because you are from India, check out this article. FYI, since ghee is a common cooking ingredient in the subcontinent: http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drwCDA...stionId=326604
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Originally posted by Kaiser:
Ruma, because you are from India, check out this article. FYI, since ghee is a common cooking ingredient in the subcontinent: http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drwCDA...stionId=326604
"studies in south Asia and England have implicated ghee in rising rates of coronary heart disease among Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis"

Aw, crap
I knew ghee had to be unhealthy, but it hurts to see it in writing, since the stuff tastes so damn good.

MMMM, ghee-covered paratha


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As for the original article claiming fish is bad for you because it's high in cholesterol...this gives vegetarians a bad name, because it's obviously a bogus statement. If I was a vegetarian, I'd be appalled at this article.

A quick Medline search will show that fish intake provides positive effects on our cholesterol levels. Here's just one of hundreds of studies:

Fish intake and blood lipids in fish eating vs non-fish eating communities of coastal south India.
Clin Nutr 2000 Jun;19(3):165-70 (ISSN: 0261-5614)
Bulliyya G
Department of Physical Anthropology, School of Biological Sciences, Sri Venkateswara University, Tirupati, India.
The lower blood lipid levels and lower incidence of coronary heart disease in fish eating populations has been attributed to the unusual n-3 fatty acids present in their fish diet. In order to test this hypothesis, a cross-sectional study was proposed to evaluate the lipid profile in free-living men and women of fish eating and non-fish eating populations aged between 20 to 70 years in coastal villages of the district of Nellore, in south India. The mean concentrations of total serum cholesterol and triacylglycerols were found to be lower in fish eating than in non-fish eating populations. Significant differences were observed between populations for certain age groups. The serum phospholipid content was lower in fish-eating than non-fish eating populations and the difference was found to be significant only for women. The mean total cholesterol and triacylglycerol levels were found elevated consistently as the age advanced in both sexes and populations. There were significant differences for blood lipids between men and women in some age groups. The percentile cut-off values for cholesterol and triacylglycerol were lower in fish eating as compared to non-fish eating group. Prevalence of hypercholesterolemia and hypertriglyceridemia (> or = 200 mg/dl) was significantly lower in fish eating people indicating less proneness to cardiovascular risk. The data indicate that eating of fish may have a role in ameliorating the risk of coronary heart disease. [Copyright 2000 Harcourt Publishers Ltd.].
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Ruma, because you are from India, check out this article. FYI, since ghee is a common cooking ingredient in the subcontinent: http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drwCDA...stionId=326604
"studies in south Asia and England have implicated ghee in rising rates of coronary heart disease among Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis"
[/quote]Thanks for all the info.

Oh yes!! Ghee is yummy and so is the flavour. But it is a complete NO NO in my family.

Food habits are different in different parts of India. In the northern India, Ghee is used in many dishes. I am from the coastal part of India where fish makes most part of the diet. For cooking, we mainly use peanut oil or mustard oil.

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