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Old 04-14-2004, 10:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I read your post about cholesterol. My parents also have developed high cholesterol as they have aged. However, there are 2 things they have done to keep them off of meds...

Fish Oil Pills and Flax Seeds (and Oil).

My mom saw the doctor about 2 years ago and tested high for cholesterol. The Doc wanted to see her back in a month to start her on meds. She started supplementing her diet with fish oil pills (2 pills 3xs a day) and added ground flax seeds to the top of her cereal.

After a month, the doc re-tested her. When the doctor got her results, heasked her what Med they had put her on b/c he had forgotten to write it down!!

Needless to say, she avoided the meds and continues with the fish oil to this day.

Just thought it may be an option for you.
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Old 04-14-2004, 11:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I am taking the fish oil pills as per a suggestion from Mr. William Hartman (have you been Hartman Certified?). Will also add flax oil. Thanks so much for the information, and for thinking of me.

On a personal note: How have you been?
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Old 04-14-2004, 11:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm great. Could you post your email address or send me an email? I have some interesting developments. (I accidentally deleted your email address).

Thanks. Hope the cholesterol thing works itself out.
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Done and done! Thanks again, t.
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Fish, sorry I missed your first post. Which number came back high? I had my first blood workup 2 years back, when I used to workout like a maniac 6-7 days a week, and to my and my doctor's amazement, my total and LDL number came back high (228 and 171 respectively). HDL and triglycerides were fine. So I cut back on saturated fats and one year later, a slight decrease (about 10%) but still high. So I ask for, and get, a Lipoprotein-a and c-reactive protein test. LPa comes back high, but CRP comes back good - as it should with the amount of exercise I get. So doctor recommends putting me on prescription levels of niacin. Problem is that levels that high waste away muscle. So after consulting with a number of doc friends and my dad's friend who is one of the top cardiac professors in the world, I hold off. In the period between the two tests, I was taking flax seed regularly.

Genetics may have the trump card in my case. My mom has naturally high levels of cholesterol (over 330 total) but has high levels of HDL as well and her ratio is good. Still, at age 58, she had a partial blockage that they had to stent. She never took any meds and is still good today, 7 years later. My friends said that because she had the blockage at the age she did and that age was post-menopausal, it is not a heredity risk factor for me.

Anyway, now to my point (you didn't want to hear my history): I was ready to take fish oil caps, but read a number of articles that showed conflicting research on what it did to LDL. Some research found that it actually raised LDL. Since that is my number of concern and the one that is putting me out of whack, I never took it.

Any info on that?

PS: Sadly, as I got fat and out of shape over the winter, I delayed my annual exam. It was supposed to take place in Jan and I said I'd go in July. Talk about a typical male response to a problem.
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Old 04-15-2004, 12:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Fish, I'd suggest following Tracey's advice on the flax - either whole or ground. Most of us don't get enough fiber anyway, and these little devils are loaded with it. You'd be missing out on a sixth (over 6 g) of your daily fiber if you take a tablespoon of oil vs. 1/4 c of seeds/flour.
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Kaiser,

Any information on those articles? I'm looking for more info...thanks.

Everything I have read points to it getting better with Omega-3s
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