JP Fitness Forums - Personal Training  
Google
 
Web forums.jpfitness.com

Go Back   JP Fitness Forums - Personal Training > Nutrition > Diet, Nutrition and Supplementation
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Diet, Nutrition and Supplementation Post here for supplement reviews or nutritional advice. If you're trying to get "ripped abz" THIS is where you should be.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-11-2004, 01:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
gardener
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: southern New Jersey
Posts: 3,123
Post

Here's the critic John Fischer's assessment of Upton Sinclair's 1906 novel, The Jungle. "Sinclair's stomach-turning account of the way meat was handled in the Chicago slaughterhouses churned up one of those rare surges of public indignation which no politician can ignore. Long before his book appeared a good many voters had suspected something was wrong in the packing industry, because hundreds of American soldiers had sickened on embalmed beef during the Spanish-American War. Now The Jungle confirmed their suspicions and worse. They looked with horror at the corned beef on their dinner tables and promptly wrote to their Congressmen. Before the year was out Congress passed its first law to regulate the meat, food and drug industries. No other American novel, before or since, has ever produced such fast action."

And below is Michael Pollan's piece in the Jan 11 NY Times magazine.It's a pity that the USDA, which is in charge of the inspection system that's supposed to protect our meat supply, is now controlled by people with conflicting interests.

Cattle Futures?
By MICHAEL POLLAN

Published: January 11, 2004

t's hard to say whether an American hamburger was appreciably less safe to eat the day after a Holstein cow tested positive for bovine spongiform encephalopathy in Washington State last month than it was the day before, but it had sure gotten less appetizing. The news cracked open a door on the industrial kitchen where America's meat is prepared, and what we glimpsed on the other side was enough to send even the heartiest diner to the vegetarian entree or the fish special.
Advertisement


We learned, for example, that the beef we have been eating (until the U.S.D.A.'s sudden change of heart about the practice) might consist in whole or part of meat from a ''downer cow,'' an animal so sick and hobbled that it must be dragged to the slaughterhouse with chains or pushed by a front-end loader. Then, before finding its way into a frankfurter, the carcass of that animal is often subjected to an ''Advanced Meat Recovery System'' that is so efficient at stripping flesh from spinal cord that the chances are good (35 percent, in one study) that the resultant frankfurter contains ''central nervous system tissue'' -- precisely the tissue most likely to contain the infectious prions thought to communicate B.S.E.

So: We have been eating downers and really picking their bones clean. And what did these animals eat in turn? Many of us were surprised to learn that despite the F.D.A.'s 1997 ban on feeding cattle cattle meat and bone meal, feedlots continue to rear these herbivores as cannibals. When young, they routinely receive ''milk replacer'' made from bovine blood; later, their daily ration is apt to contain rendered cattle fat as well as feed made from ground-up pigs and chickens -- pigs and chickens that may themselves have grown up on a diet of ground-up cows. But the grossest feedlot dish we read about in our newspapers over breakfast has to be ''chicken litter,'' the nasty stuff shoveled out of chicken houses -- bedding, feathers and overlooked chicken feed. Since this chicken feed may contain the same bovine meat and bone meal that F.D.A. rules prohibit in cattle feed, those rules are, in effect, all but guaranteed to break themselves. Oh, yes, I forgot to mention one of the ingredients in chicken litter: chicken feces, which the U.S. cattle industry regards as a source of protein.

Whatever else it is -- nutritious, economical, the polar opposite of wasteful -- you can't help feeling that the convoluted new food chain that industrial agriculture has devised for the animals we eat (and thus for us) is, to be unscientific for a moment, disgusting.

I know, I'm offering an aesthetic judgment of a system designed not for beauty but for efficiency. Protein is protein, goes the logic of this system, whether you find it in an animal muscle, a soybean or a chicken dropping: this reductionism is the world-beating formula that drives industrial agriculture, and it works, up to a point. By feeding the absolute cheapest forms of energy and protein to animals it treats as machines, the industrial food chain has succeeded in making the protein we eat unimaginably cheap. Just look at what you can get for a buck or two at Wal-Mart or McDonald's.

But there is a problem. By the reductive logic that rules our food system, cannibalism should be as legitimate a way of eating as any other: it's all just protein, right? Yet the great unlearned lesson of B.S.E. and other similar brain-wasting diseases is that, at the level of species or ecosystems, it isn't quite true that protein is protein. Eating the protein of your own species, for example, carries special risks. The Fore of New Guinea were nearly wiped out by kuru, which bears a striking resemblance to B.S.E.; they spread it among themselves by ritually eating the brains of their dead kin.

Biologists think that evolution probably selected against cannibalism as a way to avoid such infections (among other things). Many animals' instinctive aversion to their own feces and to the carcasses of their species may represent similar strategies to avoid infectious microbes and parasites. Through natural selection, animals have developed what amount to a set of hygiene rules that function much like taboos. One of the most off-putting things about factory farms is how cavalierly they flout these evolutionary rules, forcing animals to overcome deeply ingrained aversions. For their instincts we substitute antibiotics.

Life as a human omnivore is more complicated and risky. When you can eat almost anything, how do you avoid the dangers nature presents, the plant toxins and parasites and lethal microbes? We have culture to guide us (traditions, science, Jane Brody), but surely even we can still hear older voices, aversions (to rot) and attractions (to sweetness) that still speak when we encounter a plate of food. In matters as fundamental to our animal lives as choosing what to eat, perhaps our aesthetic sense of things is not just aesthetic but is informed by something deeper, something we would do well to heed.

For tens of thousands of years, we have been eating the flesh of ruminants that live on grass. The rightness of that picture -- a bovine grazing on grassland -- goes way back, maybe all the way to the savanna. And while that picture has recently been eclipsed by nauseating images of modern meat production, the grass-fed ruminant and the vegetarian herbivore are not extinct yet.

For several years now, an alternative, postindustrial food chain has been taking shape, its growth fueled by one ''food scare'' after another: Alar, G.M.O.'s, rBGH, E. coli 0157:H7; now B.S.E. Whatever science told us about the risks of these novel industrial entrees and sides, something else told us we might want to order something more appetizing: organic, hormone-free, grass-finished. It might cost more, but it's possible again to eat meat from a short, legible food chain consisting of little more than sunlight, grass and ruminants. Back to the future: a 21st-century savanna. If, as seems probable, this landscape should now expand at the expense of the feedlot, then something good -- even beautiful -- will have come of this poor mad cow.


Michael Pollan is a contributing writer for The New York Times Magazine.
__________________
"It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in an argument." William Gibbs McAdoo. US Vice-President under Woodrow Wilson.
gardener is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2004, 12:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
Jean-Paul
I think, therefore I post
 
Jean-Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 14,400
Post

UGH! I am THIS close to becoming a vegetarian.
__________________
Jean-Paul Francoeur
www.jpfitness.com

http://forums.jpfitness.com
"Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
-Mark Twain

Jean-Paul is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 01-12-2004, 01:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
bryanc
MudFud
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 1,050
Post

Sorry, cannibalism is wide and rampant throughout the living world (many insects, lions, scavengers like crows and jackals) as well as feces eating (rabbits being the one I can recall fastest). I'd like to know which biologists Mr. Pollan is referring to. Fundamental aversion, my bum.

Eating carries inherent risk, regardless of whether an animal was raised on grass alone, or even if it was an animal to begin with, or a vegetable or a petroleum bi-product. BSE or CJD is just another media-highlighted event that happens to favour other political, and social agendas. There's nothing wrong with having or promoting these agendas, but it's important to recognize that being a vegan, eating only certified organically grown products, does not guarantee your safety, nor does it necessarily mitigate any risk that is present in the activity of eating.
__________________
Evidence-Based Fitness -- Critical Reviews of Fitness Research http://evidencebasedfitness.bl ogspot.com
bryanc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:22 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0

 

Web

forums.jpfitness.com

 

web stats