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Old 09-19-2009, 08:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, so I should say that I am new to coffee. I only started drinking the stuff a few weeks ago to replace the caffeine fix I was getting from diet sodas. Now I only drink diet sodas once in a while. So my question is, how do I count the calories in the coffee? I am using Dunkin' Donuts brand and making it myself. When I go on dailyplate, it has it listed by fluid oz measurement. Does it not matter the amount of coffee and water used?

Thanks. I am going to start counting cals and dieting on Monday so I need to know my coffee counts.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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When I go on dailyplate, it has it listed by fluid oz measurement. Does it not matter the amount of coffee and water used?
Black coffee, unsweetened, has few calories as you see when you input the numbers. The difference between thicker/denser coffee and weak coffee is even smaller.

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Depends on how much coffee you drink on a daily basis. If you're always drinking the same # of calories, then it doesn't really matter all that much. 100 or 200? Matters more, but whether it's tracked or not is up to you. For instance if you have a maint level of 1500 cals and drink 10, 50, or 100 cals of uncounted coffee, your maint will seem like 1490, 1450, or 1400 calories.

Since maint is an estimate anyway. and you after the first few weeks you're eating relative to how you are losing or not losing at your starting maint estimate, in this situation it takes care of itself.

I'm sure I've confused you, but since I already typed this, I'm going hit submit anyway.

Run your coffee numbers at least once and see what they are and satisfy your curiosity, then you can decide.

...and, I'm still assuming it's black coffee, right?
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have 3 coffee mugs of coffee in the morning, each with 1/4c soymilk. The 3 cups of coffee is 7 whoppin' calories, the soymilk, 65. I only track the cals in the coffee as my program is set up to do it.

It's not a big deal, but add a couple crystal light drinks, and electrolyte pack, some gum, and now I'm up 50+ cals.

You won't gain weight from coffee though.
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I thought coffee was in the 5 calories per 8oz range, for black that is.

Edit: I just went to a couple different sources and for 8oz I got 4.7, 2.7, and 2.5 calories. Majority wins?
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:47 AM   #5 (permalink)
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This is an ongoing debate on diet forums all over the net. I'm agree with Roland on this one-as long as you drink the same amounts daily. I don't log my coffee but I do log the half and half I put in it.
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Black coffee, unsweetened, has few calories as you see when you input the numbers. The difference between thicker/denser coffee and weak coffee is even smaller.



Depends on how much coffee you drink on a daily basis. If you're always drinking the same # of calories, then it doesn't really matter all that much. 100 or 200? Matters more, but whether it's tracked or not is up to you. For instance if you have a maint level of 1500 cals and drink 10, 50, or 100 cals of uncounted coffee, your maint will seem like 1490, 1450, or 1400 calories.

Since maint is an estimate anyway. and you after the first few weeks you're eating relative to how you are losing or not losing at your starting maint estimate, in this situation it takes care of itself.

I'm sure I've confused you, but since I already typed this, I'm going hit submit anyway.

Run your coffee numbers at least once and see what they are and satisfy your curiosity, then you can decide.

...and, I'm still assuming it's black coffee, right?
Well, I add creamer and Splenda, so I would have to add that, too, and possibly cut down on the creamer some. That's so much easier to weigh and count, etc. I drink a travel mug size a day. I haven't yet done any measuring to see how much it holds. I only drink it in the morning though as I have become more sensitive to caffeine in the past year or so and it will keep me up at night.

The bold print makes the most sense. Like AnnetteW was saying and as I read in Leigh's book, in the past I have tended to not count things like Splenda, Crystal Light, that fat free butter sprays, Pam, etc, and I think that's what has held me up at a plateau after just a few lbs lost. I would use a lot of this stuff and it does add up. I am going to go with the idea of just keeping it at the same everyday and see how it goes. Thanks!
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Well, I add creamer and Splenda, so I would have to add that, too, and possibly cut down on the creamer some. That's so much easier to weigh and count, etc. I drink a travel mug size a day. I haven't yet done any measuring to see how much it holds. I only drink it in the morning though as I have become more sensitive to caffeine in the past year or so and it will keep me up at night.

The bold print makes the most sense. Like AnnetteW was saying and as I read in Leigh's book, in the past I have tended to not count things like Splenda, Crystal Light, that fat free butter sprays, Pam, etc, and I think that's what has held me up at a plateau after just a few lbs lost. I would use a lot of this stuff and it does add up. I am going to go with the idea of just keeping it at the same everyday and see how it goes. Thanks!
I hope it's not actually creamer. Non-dairy creamer is bad stuff. Look at the ingredients. People think it's healthy, but it's not. It's bad stuff.

Yep, that stuff can all add up and be a problem. Another problem is that people (not saying you) tend to do the math on their maintenance levels, activity levels, and calories ingested and think that the numbers are correct. So, when they don't lose, it's a big mystery and they keep going because "it's just a matter of time." Only it might not be.

There have been people who've kept on for six months of nothing happening because they were following the math. Then they discover that sprays, coffee, spenda, crystal light, etc have calories and suddenly they lose again. They could have also lowered their calorie requirements in the formula and got things moving again.

You can either micro manage and count EVERYTHING to find holes in your system (non-free calories) or you can realize that you have to lower calories further, because the math is just an estimate and is rarely spot on.
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I hope it's not actually creamer. Non-dairy creamer is bad stuff. Look at the ingredients. People think it's healthy, but it's not. It's bad stuff.

Yep, that stuff can all add up and be a problem. Another problem is that people (not saying you) tend to do the math on their maintenance levels, activity levels, and calories ingested and think that the numbers are correct. So, when they don't lose, it's a big mystery and they keep going because "it's just a matter of time." Only it might not be.

There have been people who've kept on for six months of nothing happening because they were following the math. Then they discover that sprays, coffee, spenda, crystal light, etc have calories and suddenly they lose again. They could have also lowered their calorie requirements in the formula and got things moving again.

You can either micro manage and count EVERYTHING to find holes in your system (non-free calories) or you can realize that you have to lower calories further, because the math is just an estimate and is rarely spot on.
It is, actually. Since I am so new to coffee, I just added that and the Splenda cuz it tasted good. As far as cleaning up my diet goes, meaning not just focusing on the carbs/pro/fat/cals numbers but the actual healthiness of the foods, it will definitely be a slow work in progress. I have a real desire to eat healthy foods in order to be healthy, but I am also very weak as far as choosing those healthier foods over processed foods. It's going to be baby steps with me this time around, as I have tried dieting so much in the past and quit/failed after a few weeks. I would see results, but stall after a short time period and just get "distracted." So I am afraid to go and cut everything out all at one time. I actually just today talked myself out of starting Leigh's OPT program, as it cut my cals down farther than I have ever tried before and I just knew that I would be setting myself up for failure with that. I am at least prepared this time to lower cals after a time period if I don't see a difference.

Thanks so much for all the help! I am loving this forum so far.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The coffee part is actually great ... before the explosion of the acai berry and what not, coffee was known as the the number one source for antioxidants, which is a huge part of your overall fitness.
.. it's the milk, the half and half, the creamers, the sweetners... all the FUN stuff you need to keep your eye on.
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I've been drinking coffee for years and I can't go without it! I can choke it down black if I have to (if it's brewed right) but I used to drink 4-6 cups every morning with TONS of irish cream coffee creamer. It was like a dessert.

Now what I do is drink it black, only I add some cinnamon to the grounds and brew it like that. It tastes amazing!
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As far as cleaning up my diet goes, meaning not just focusing on the carbs/pro/fat/cals numbers but the actual healthiness of the foods, it will definitely be a slow work in progress. I have a real desire to eat healthy foods in order to be healthy, but I am also very weak as far as choosing those healthier foods over processed foods. It's going to be baby steps with me this time around, as I have tried dieting so much in the past and quit/failed after a few weeks.
Thanks so much for all the help! I am loving this forum so far.
The baby steps is probably a good approach, depending on your personality. (I personally tend to do better with all-or-nothing). Eating healthy foods is also a good thing. People lose fat by just cutting calories, and I know people who have been successful on programs like Weightwatchers where you get to each pretty much anything you want as long as you keep your calories within your daily allowance. However, I think that what you eat matters for overall health. I recommend following a "clean eating" diet most of the time. You can do a google search and find out more, but this is just basically eating whole foods like fruits and vegetables, quality low-fat proteins, healthy fats (like olive oil and fish oil), nuts, and whole grains. Avoid sugar, processed foods, fried foods, and trans fats. For a lot of people, if you follow this you will lose fat (or maintain a healthy weight) without having to count calories and track micronutrients, but everyone is different and you can still overeat. It's not easy, and you have to plan meals, buy groceries, and cook, but it's way cheaper and healthier than eating out.
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