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What are the benefits of MCT/MCFA and SCT/SCFA as far as health and/or metabolic effects or body composition?
All of what I've seen says that MCFA increase fat oxidation. I get how they are absorbed via the portal system and into the blood and not through lacteal and lymphatic vessels, but why is that good?
Also, what things are they found in other than the MCT in coconut oil?
I don't think MCT occurs naturally. It's been a while since I read anything about this, so my knowledge is dated, but I remember something about MCT's being man-made... a structurally altered carbon atom in the fat cell. One of the more current nutrition guys in here please correct me if I'm wrong.
MCTs are any saturated fat from 6 to 12 carbons long. Naturally produced, in various quantities in a lot of products. The highest levels are in coconut fat. Typically a MCT oil is a fractionated coconut oil., with a huge profit margin
I don't think MCT occurs naturally. It's been a while since I read anything about this, so my knowledge is dated, but I remember something about MCT's being man-made... a structurally altered carbon atom in the fat cell. One of the more current nutrition guys in here please correct me if I'm wrong.
No, it's all natural
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Why do I get the feeling that by answering your questions we are doing your homework?
Didn't I tell you that I looked up stuff already? I did some of my own homework, but I also have actual homework to do. That's what happens when you're in school. Isn't the point of the forum to answer questions anyway, or am I missing something here..
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MCTs will increase fat oxidation in the short term. if you take eough of them at once, you will also recieve a pleasant surprise in your pants.
SCFA dont apepar to have this effect, but in the right format taste good.
OCD is strong
So what it is like for the long term? Do they have any positive effects of cholesterol or triglyceride levels?
Re:time - So I take it you don't watch tv? You don't read magazines? Don't read posts in threads?
I'm not trying to be a jerk, I've just noticed that A TON of your recent threads involve questions answered by Lyle in his articles..... so my suggestion is that you read them as it is time well spent. Especially if you are going to devote enough time to think about the topic, come up with a question, post it, and criticize anyone who doesn't answer it exactly how you want them to.
This site has a rough breakdown of FA composition in meat fat (well, lard, beef, mutton & butter)
Pretty much SCT & MCT are seen only in butter that I can tell.
You'd have to look around to see about other full fat dairy sources like cow's milk cheese, sheep's milk cheese, goat's milk, goat's milk cheese, etc.
Re:time - So I take it you don't watch tv? You don't read magazines? Don't read posts in threads?
I'm not trying to be a jerk, I've just noticed that A TON of your recent threads involve questions answered by Lyle in his articles..... so my suggestion is that you read them as it is time well spent. Especially if you are going to devote enough time to think about the topic, come up with a question, post it, and criticize anyone who doesn't answer it exactly how you want them to.
There aren't any articles that discuss them in any significant manner.
Alan Aragon writes about fats in his FREE research review on his website.
I'm gonna make you google it AND read it if you want the answers.
And don't be giving me no shit about this either Sonny. I put two kids through college and they had time they needed to research the things they wanted to learn about.
I have an idea... Go to bb.com and get the "bros" to answer the questions for you. Then spend 4 times the amount of time it would take to read an article trying to decipher fact from fiction.
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SCT & MCTs are easily digested, which is a boon for babies & also why breast milk has a large amount of SCT/MCT fats . Other groups that benefit would be sick & recovering people with digestive problems, which is again why it is frequently added to MRPs geared towards that group.
Finally adding MCTs to MRPs/energy drinks can be nice for someone who's into endurance rides/runs and has little 'energy' left for the digestive tract.
J-P, maybe you're confusing transfats with MCT/SCTs?
J-P, maybe you're confusing transfats with MCT/SCTs?
If you mean me, no I'm not confusing them at all. Trans fat have no benefits. But thanks for the info
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Alan Aragon writes about fats in his FREE research review on his website.
I'm gonna make you google it AND read it if you want the answers.
And don't be giving me no shit about this either Sonny. I put two kids through college and they had time they needed to research the things they wanted to learn about.
I have an idea... Go to bb.com and get the "bros" to answer the questions for you. Then spend 4 times the amount of time it would take to read an article trying to decipher fact from fiction.
Okay, well, number one, his research review isn't FREE. So, you're wrong.
I already did google it and the answers I got were not enough. Lyle's articles mention it in 1 or 2 lines per article. Hardly anything useful. They didn't cover what I was asking, so I came here to ask if anyone else knew more than I had found. A crime, I know. Forums aren't supposed to be to talk about things, right?
And don't think you have me pegged about researching and doing my own work and shit. You know nothing about me. Don't throw your "I raised two kids who did work" crap at me. You have no idea how much work I get in school, what I do on top of that, what else I have on my plate, what kind of grades I get, etc. So get off your high horse and if you're not going to say anything useful, you're better off keeping your shit to yourself.
I don't see what the big deal with this question is. As LostDog said, it's no different than anyone else. And if I had to take a guess as to why it isn't quickly answered, it's because most people don't know the answer right off the top of their head. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be answered.
Okay, well, number one, his research review isn't FREE.
I think she must be referring to the free sample issue that you can download.
I don't know anything on the subject you're asking about, but I understand the desire to get a quick summary or overview from somebody who knows the subject. I've been researching a few nutritional questions lately and it can take many many hours of digging through information to find what seems like a very simple piece of information. None of has enough lifetimes to research everything that interests us.
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There's a book I have which touches upon each fatty acid and what it does. Can't find it right now but it's from Mary Enig and is called "Know your fats". Thought it was pretty straightforward but it wouldn't hurt to borrow it from a local library if you can.
Because of her connections to the Weston A Price foundation some doubt if the information is correct..
If your asking this as a fitness enthusiast then your question has been answered already. If, however, you are studying exercise science/nutrition/etc. then a deeper understanding is needed, and you can be directed to places that can give you that. Although you have been directed to Aragon and McDonald, guys more learned than 99% of the people on this forum but that doesn't seem to be good enough (by the was the Research Review is $10 per month - about the price of a trip to Burger King - which money is better spent?)
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