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Old 08-20-2009, 08:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I think I would like to try the low carb approach of 'Adam's diet' in the sticky at the top of this forum for the next month.

Couple of question's.

i know you are not supposed to be counting calories, but roughly how many are people eating????

I'm not in the habit of eating cheeses either , and as they are high in calories was wondering what type's and how much people are eating?? low fat cheeses or full fat?

i was planning on eating lots of salads with avocadoes tomotoes, spinach leaves and chicken breast or salmons. Lean meats and tuna. beef sausages and eggs. Almonds and PB for the nut allocation. Along with all the green veggies.

Also would it be ok to swap the dextrose pre and post workout with oatmeal. I was planning on mixing oatmeal, berries and protein powder with a glass of skim milk and having half pre and the other half post workout. Would this defeat the whole manipulation of insulin??? I'm hoping the carbs will create enough of an insulin spike. Obviously not as fast as dextrose.

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Old 08-24-2009, 01:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Adam's diet turned into what is now known as the TNT diet. You can get the book or read a detailed explanation of it on Men's Health online.

You don't count calories, the gist is limiting carbs and hoping this will regulate your intake. If after 4 weeks you have no results, then count what you are eating and reduce from there.

Medium fat cheeses would save you some calories, but Adam's diet doesn't limit the fat, so you can go for the fattier ones, too, given you don't eat a lb of them.

You are fine with eating real food instead of the dextrose

Good luck.
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Old 08-25-2009, 01:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey thx for your reply Gayla, i appreciate it!!

i have read all about the TNT diet (web based sources), and it seems the main difference is dependent on what plan you pick. I havn't read the book but it seems as though counting calories is not needed which is great.

I was going to follow plan A from TNT which doesn't allow for any starchy carbs for 4 weeks. I'll see how that goes. Although I would feel better having a quarter cups of oats/berries/protein Post workout.

Either way I'll add the PW carbs after the initial 4 weeks.

I have been eating about 5 to 8 ounces of full fat cheese, atleast, thinking this was Ok. It doesn't feel right after avoiding it for so long. Too much???? Should I be limiting this? I easily can, I thought the idea of the cheese was to boost calories. Should i start counting calories to see where I'm at??

I have 3 tubs of cottage cheese left so I will finish those pre bed before I drop them altogether, as per the milk serving restriction.

I eat a serving of almonds and 1 of natural PB. Lots of broccoli, squash, zucchini, snowpeas throughout the day. Steam them the night before than snack on them every 3 hours or so.

Lean meats are steak, chicken breast (although the dark meat and skin is alright too isn't it?), salmon and tuna.

Eggs, salsa, avocado and cheese for breakfast.

It really feels like a lot of fat, but that's the idea right?? Cheese at 4 servings, olive oil over my veggies etc. I don't really miss the carbs as I have heaps of energy and don't really get hungry. I'm worried about over eating, but there is no reference to that anywhere I have read.

Quite a few questions huh? I'm not sure I'm on the right track, but time will tell I guess. Please let me know if you think i have missed something!!


Thanks again!!!!!
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Seems like you are doing fine.
How much do you weigh?
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hey

Im 83 kgs (182 lbs) and about 20 % bodyfat

33 years old

I'm a boxer(well an out of shape one right now), and usually do 1 conditioning session which I count as HIIT, and one sparring session. My trainer is into the thousand sit-up style of over training so I usually stick to the weight room and do my own thing 4 sessions a week. Just finished meltdown training, so I'm taking a week off then 'Starting Strength' is the plan.

Today I hit 2400 cals .... Can i over eat on this diet. I havn't counted my calories until today. It's only my first week on this nutrition plan.

Here's what i ate....


Food Name
Amount
Unit
Cals
Fat (g)
Carbs (g)
Prot (g)
Delete
Egg, whole, fried
228
17.6
1.1
16.3
Chicken, breast, with or without bone, broiled, skin not eat...
425
9.2
0.0
80.0
Salmon, raw
186
7.6
0.0
27.6
Peanut butter
94
8.1
3.1
4.0
Cheese, Cheddar or Colby, low sodium
790
64.7
3.8
48.3
Olive oil
239
27.0
0.0
0.0
Broccoli, raw
48
0.6
8.9
5.1
Squash, zucchini, baby, raw
28
0.5
4.1
3.6
Asparagus, raw
32
0.2
5.0
2.8
Snowpeas (pea pod), raw
53
0.3
9.5
3.5
Almonds, NFS
164
14.4
5.6
6.0
Cheese, cottage, lowfat (1-2% fat)
0
0.0
0.0
0.0

I'll track check my bf% etc and see how it goes.

I feel like I'm over eating, especially on the cheese. Maybe too much protein too, What do you think?
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Thanks for chiming in to help. I've read a lot of threads that you've posted in, and you seem to really know your stuff. Thanks!!!
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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In this phase, having protein around 180-220 is a good start. You can always adjust.
Just keep your food intake similar on most days and keep writing your food down so you know what your results came from. Ketosis is not a prerequisite for fat loss, so even with higher carbs at this percentage bodyfat and controlled calories, you will be able to lose.

What is your experience with fat loss before? What has worked for you?
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What is your experience with fat loss before? What has worked for you?
I'm 33 and was always naturally lean or athletic in my youth. My metabolism probably noticeably changed about 5 years ago. I have only ever seriously focused on fat loss once before. I was eating about 2200 cals a day with a 33/33/33 macro split. I was also eating protein/carb or protein/fat combinations after reading one of Beraldi's articles. That worked and I went from about 19% down to about 13%.

Life gets in the way sometimes and I'm back to about 20%

I just want to retain my lean muscle mass and drop about 10 pounds of fat.

I have never tried low carb before, so I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes.

First thoughts are....

Energy levels are high, no lethargy. Havn't lifted yet, but I did HIIT on the beach yesterday up and down some dunes and boxing on Monday. Boxing tonight too. It's my week off lol...

I feel a little bloated. I think my weight may have actually gone up too?? I'll check tonight. I'm more worried about bod fat % anyway.

I'll track my cals too from now on, and give it a month. Here's hoping
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You'll do fine. Drink a lot of water, go easy on the cheese for a few days. It might be a salt issue, or an intolerance issue, who knows. Glad you got results before there is nothing that should prevent you from getting results now.

It's true life gets in the way sometimes, but you always have to eat anyways, might as well eat the right stuff
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Cheese can be binding so if this is a major change for you that might be a consideration.
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