Diet, Nutrition and SupplementationPost here for supplement reviews or nutritional advice. If you're trying to get "ripped abz" THIS is where you should be.
I have all of Lyle's books and John Berardi's Precision Nutrition.
I have yet to try UD2 but it's a crazy, very regimented diet. RFL is a protein sparing modified fast "crash diet". Ketogenic is a huge book, still haven't made it through, but it goes into ridiculous detail about every type of keto diet there is. Haven't made my way through Flexible, but Lyle discusses different kinds of refeeds, etc.
At the end of the day, I always go back to JB's Precision Nutrition, which I had long before I bought Lyle's books (out of curiosity). The resources you get on their member website is alone worth the $100, let alone the actual book & Gourmet Nutrition cookbooks. It's not so much a diet as a lifestyle system -- JB provides instructions on how to tailor PN to your goals (whether losing fat or gaining muscle, or whether you're an endurance or strength athlete). There is also a plant-based diet guide in case you're a vegetarian/vegan or would like to give it a try.
In fact, I'm going to flat out recommend Berardi here if you're looking for quality and bang for your buck. On the website, there are workout programs by various coachs and his Get Shredded Diet available for members -- so if you didn't want to buy both PN from Berardi and UD2 from Lyle, you could likely get as shredded from UD2 on Berardi's GSD.
Has anyone had any experience with them?? Are they designed for people with already low body fat %, or anyone looking to get lean???
I was checking out the 2.0 diet but he states it's mainly for people under 15 percent already.
Any other books recommended???
Beraldi's Precision Nutrition???
Cheers!
Lyles books are mainly about providing information about dieting and breaking it all down. Lots of other books dont tell you what happens or why, instead they give you a short intro, diet layout, and then a bunch of recipes.
The books specifically about a certain kind of diet do have a layout, but the rest of the book is about why youre doing what youre doing and clears up any misconceptions. The others provide tools for constructing your own diet.
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I have all of Lyle's books and John Berardi's Precision Nutrition.
I have yet to try UD2 but it's a crazy, very regimented diet. RFL is a protein sparing modified fast "crash diet". Ketogenic is a huge book, still haven't made it through, but it goes into ridiculous detail about every type of keto diet there is. Haven't made my way through Flexible, but Lyle discusses different kinds of refeeds, etc.
At the end of the day, I always go back to JB's Precision Nutrition, which I had long before I bought Lyle's books (out of curiosity). The resources you get on their member website is alone worth the $100, let alone the actual book & Gourmet Nutrition cookbooks. It's not so much a diet as a lifestyle system -- JB provides instructions on how to tailor PN to your goals (whether losing fat or gaining muscle, or whether you're an endurance or strength athlete). There is also a plant-based diet guide in case you're a vegetarian/vegan or would like to give it a try.
In fact, I'm going to flat out recommend Berardi here if you're looking for quality and bang for your buck. On the website, there are workout programs by various coachs and his Get Shredded Diet available for members -- so if you didn't want to buy both PN from Berardi and UD2 from Lyle, you could likely get as shredded from UD2 on Berardi's GSD.
My problem with Berardi's program stems from its over-reliance on 'rules' and 'regulations.' The more rules you throw at someone, the less likely they are to stick with a program.
Human nature for the win.
For example, "eat 10 servings of vegetables a day." Two servings of cruciferous vegetables are enough alongside a multi-vitamin. If you want to eat more, go crazy. But seriously, 10 servings is overkill. Then comes his suggestion, if your GI tract can't stomach that volume of roughage, to add in some sort of Greens powder. Cute, given his relationship with the Greens+ brand. Moreover, if someone is trying to put on weight and you stuff them full of fiber, they're never going to reach their target kcal goals. . .
Unless of course you consume a ton of over-priced sugar in the form of $urge, the product he sold to Biotest for a dump truck full of cash. I hate that sort of product tie-in, as if you can only net results with these specific supplements that in turn fill his pocket book. That's the implication carried across his material.
Let's not ignore the fact that the PN program unequivocally promotes orthorexia, given its obsession with organic foods and hyper-unprocessed food selection. Not a good combo with people who are already predisposed to extremes (i.e., the online fitness crowd).
Finally, the GSD. Don't even get me started. The gist of it: Buy tons and tons of Biotest supplements to support inadequate nutrition while starving yourself on a poorly designed ketogenic diet. Why not design the program properly (sufficient protein to start with) instead of wasting money on isolated BCAAs and creatine?
I have several of Lyle's books and they are all full of great information, well researched, and with practical steps on how to apply various principles.
You have several options depending on what your goals are. I've successfully used the Ketogenic Diet and Rapid Fat Loss, and can say from 1st hand experience that they both work very well.
I've successfully used the Ketogenic Diet and Rapid Fat Loss, and can say from 1st hand experience that they both work very well.
Ditto..
I'm just finishing a 6 week round of RFL, and have gone from about 20% body fat to about 15% (40" waist to a 36", or 205 lbs to 185 lbs, if those stats help more) in that time period..
I also have Beraldi's Precision Nutrition..
It's good for learning how to eat.. Getting enough veggies, not freaking out over a weekly cheat meal, how to plan your meals ahead of time, etc..
It's full of broad strokes that a novice really needs, and the intermediate to expert fitness enthusiasts can "individualize" to suit their requirements..
Depends on what your goals are, and how familiar you are with proper nutrition..
A MUST buy, in my opinion, is Leigh Peele's Fat Loss Troubleshooter E-book..
In response to the person saying that you can do UD 2.0 at any bodyfat level, that is simply not true. When you're over a certain amount of fat, the fat cells in your body tend to convert to estrogen more and insulin sensitivity is also impaired to a certain degree. I'm not sure of the threshold, but Lyle recommends UD 2.0 for people 15% body fat or lower.
For example, "eat 10 servings of vegetables a day." Two servings of cruciferous vegetables are enough alongside a multi-vitamin. If you want to eat more, go crazy. But seriously, 10 servings is overkill. Then comes his suggestion, if your GI tract can't stomach that volume of roughage, to add in some sort of Greens powder. Cute, given his relationship with the Greens+ brand. Moreover, if someone is trying to put on weight and you stuff them full of fiber, they're never going to reach their target kcal goals. . .
For alot of us, yeah, 10 servings is a bit much..
But for those who are significantly overweight (and hence are buying the PN book) and most likely have major insulin resistance issues, it's probably a good place to start.. And like I say, once they've learned better eating habits and have stuck to it a while they can figure out what's overkill and what's not..
And yeah, he does love to shill his Biotest and Greens+, for sure.. LOL
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Unless of course you consume a ton of over-priced sugar in the form of $urge, the product he sold to Biotest for a dump truck full of cash. I hate that sort of product tie-in, as if you can only net results with these specific supplements that in turn fill his pocket book. That's the implication carried across his material.
Agree with this 100%.. Go buy some chocolate milk, instead..
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Let's not ignore the fact that the PN program unequivocally promotes orthorexia, given its obsession with organic foods and hyper-unprocessed food selection. Not a good combo with people who are already predisposed to extremes (i.e., the online fitness crowd).
Again, organic is a good place to start for those who have been living on over-processed junk for years..
Once people get a feel for healthy eating, they can make good choices without getting nuts over it..
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Finally, the GSD. Don't even get me started. The gist of it: Buy tons and tons of Biotest supplements to support inadequate nutrition while starving yourself on a poorly designed ketogenic diet. Why not design the program properly (sufficient protein to start with) instead of wasting money on isolated BCAAs and creatine?
Definately.. Lyle's RFL is a far superior rapid weight loss diet, in my opinion..
PN Nutrition has it's good points.. (Got me eating my EFA's and my veggies, at least)..
But there are other, less biased options out there that cover the same bases, like Peele's FLTS, Lyle's RFL and other books, and Alan Aragon's Girth Control and AARR..
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