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Old 11-18-2008, 02:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Question on Flatout wrap calories

The macro breakdown for the Flatout multi-grain wrap is 2.5g F, 17g C (8g fiber), and 9g P.

Now when you add that up in terms of calories it should be 68 cal from C, 36 cal from P, and 22.5 cal from F, which is 126 calories. The package claims 100 calories.

Now i know that 26 calories isn't a big deal, i guess my question is...are companies not required to count fiber as calories? If you took away the fiber's calories, it comes out to 94 calories, which is closer.
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Old 11-18-2008, 02:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I was wondering about that too, not sure if I came to a conclusion about it or not. But man I love those things. My favorite was wrapping it around a Halibut steak, but I have also used them to make shrimp pizza which was good, but my wrap got a little soggy - should have coated it in a bit of olive oil first I think.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Fiber isn't digested like regular carbs.

They are probably breaking it down like this

2.5 * 9 = 22.5
11 * 4 = 44
8*2 = 16
9*4 = 36
SUM: 118. Still high so they are probably just not calculating for the fiber. Also probably aren't counting the sugar alcohol.
I get 102.5 without fibre btw.

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Old 11-18-2008, 04:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have this issue with stuff, like my recent purchase of engrish muffins with extra fibre.

I think they're counting fibre as 2, not 4. In my case, at least. Perhaps it same for yours.

I find that soooo irritating. Might just make me a calorimeter or something for myself.
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I get 102.5 without fibre btw.

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That's because you're adding wrong

You counted the non-fiber carbs as 11 when its actual 9 (17-8)

2.5 * 9 = 22.5 (fat)
9 * 4 = 36 (non-fiber carbs)
9 * 4 = 36 (protein)
SUM: 94.5
not that it matters...but
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That's because you're adding wrong

You counted the non-fiber carbs as 11 when its actual 9 (17-8)

2.5 * 9 = 22.5 (fat)
9 * 4 = 36 (non-fiber carbs)
9 * 4 = 36 (protein)
SUM: 94.5
not that it matters...but
Sure did. I do that crap all the time. I've been known to see 3^2 and go 3*2 in my brain.

My guess is that the values are rounded and they ignored fiber.

Fiber really is 2 cals per gram, but often gets counted as zero. I lost most of my weight counting it as zero, so I wouldn't get bent out of shape over them.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Companies get to take out the calories for fibers and sugar alcohols. The serving sizes are also usually way off. For example, most English Muffin by weight are usually a good 40 calories higher in serving comparison. Serving sizes are an estimate. Some of the worst companies at this are actually the organic and health food companies.

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I just measure one of the flatout wraps and surprisingly the gram weight is spot on with the label.

Im surprised that companies don't have to count certain things as calories. I always knew that they could say "2 net carbs" when it actually has 20 carbs, but I thought that the calorie total was something that they couldn't fudge.
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Eh, it's an average and rounded and subject to error even under the best of conditions.
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Eh, it's an average and rounded and subject to error even under the best of conditions.
Yep, which is why we have lots and lots of food items on the shelves with 0.0g of Trans fat, but contain hydrogenated oil.
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Well if it's low enough on the list, and therefore in small quantities per each serving size…

of course, if the serving size is incredibly small (I like the serving sizes that are 1/2 or a 1/3 of a unit. Not like pop, which tends to be a standard 8oz, but like the candy bar that is 3 servings. ) then OF COURSE it doesn't count.
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...but I have also used them to make shrimp pizza which was good, but my wrap got a little soggy - should have coated it in a bit of olive oil first I think.
Did you bake the wrap separately before putting the toppings one? That should make it nice and crisp. The Flatout website recipes suggest something like 7 to 9 minutes at 350 degrees. I usually do mine for about 5...makes for a nice crisp crust.
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Did you bake the wrap separately before putting the toppings one? That should make it nice and crisp. The Flatout website recipes suggest something like 7 to 9 minutes at 350 degrees. I usually do mine for about 5...makes for a nice crisp crust.
Yes, I did, that is why I was surprised it didn't work out as well as I hoped. It was still great none the less, but a crispier crust would have been better. I put a little diced tomato on and maybe got too much tomato juice? It doesn't detur me though, it was easy to eat with a fork, just cutting through the toppings and wrap and the cheese and shrimp tasted great.
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I made an awesome little pizza yesterday (this made 2 pizzas). Like above, first I put two wraps in the oven until crispy. Then I sliced a full green pepper, half a red onion, and 80g of mushrooms, and sauteed them until they got a little brown and soft.

When they were done I add diced chicken, pepper, and basil to the veggies and a few spoonfuls of a fairly low cal marinara sauce. I put a little more marinara on the "crusts", put the veggie/chicken mixture on top, and covered each one with 2% milk mozzarella cheese and some thinly sliced tomato and put back in the oven for about 5 minutes. Seriously, these pizzas were awesome. I don't think I would ever be tempted to buy a "real" pizza as long as I have these around.
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How bout mcdonalds wraps?? Serious question.
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Serious answer. No.
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Although I wouldn't choose the McD route. You could make a worse choice than the grilled snack wrap.

It has 270 cals, most of which are coming from the flour tortilla (at 140cals)

Pros: 18g protein

Cons: 830mg sodium, only 1 g fiber.

In essence in my book it's biggest weakness is the flour tortilla.

It has a lot of crap in it as well. Hydrolzed oils, lots of soybean oil etc.
ie their definition of chicken breast fillet:
Grilled Chicken Breast Filet
Chicken breast filets with rib meat, water, seasoning (salt, sugar, food starch-modified, maltodextrin, spices, dextrose, autolyzed yeast extract, hydrolyzed [corn gluten, soy, wheat gluten] proteins, garlic powder, paprika, chicken fat, chicken broth, natural flavors (plant and animal source), caramel color, polysorbate 80, xanthan gum, onion powder, extractives of paprika), modified potato starch, and sodium phosphates.

If you were desperate, I might suggest buying two of em and ditching one or both of the wraps, giving you 33g protein.

There are better choices, but there are PLENTY worse ones. I wouldn't choose to make it a staple in my diet, but lots of guys have eaten only McDs and lost plenty of weight.

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