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For my am snack I usually eat a promax protein bar, and my pm snack is a clif bar. Neither are really all that great, I was wondering if I could get some ideas for a healthy snack for my am & pm that will hold me for about 2 1/2 hrs.
I'm not a handful of nuts and a yogurt guy or a celery stick with peanut butter guy. I'm really trying to eat cleaner, but nothing is coming to mind with my in-between meals. I work in construction so I don't have access to a microwave, so, nothing warm.
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I'm sure those mini-bagels aren't to good for you. I'm sure you can find some sort of 100% WW bagels though and just put some butter or maybe cream cheese on those.
I'm sure those mini-bagels aren't to good for you. I'm sure you can find some sort of 100% WW bagels though and just put some butter or maybe cream cheese on those.
I don't buy that thinking much anymore. It's too much like saying HFCS is totally bad. HFCS is sugar, and we use sugar in our PWO drinks. Aragon goes on to say we should get about 1/3 of our PWO sugar in the form of fructose and most HFCS is something like 45-55% fructose. It's almost identical to table sugar.
I'm not damning anything anymore. It's not what we eat that makes a difference, it's how we eat.
Minibagles (there are even ww varieties) and pb has been a regular snack for Otto and rather filling.
In the mini mindset, trader joe's has mini pitas we rip in half and make bitesized ham and cheese or pepperoni and cheese snacks. Or pb for that matter.
Jerky, cheese, snack mix, popcorn (prepopped, obviously), cottage cheese singles, just a plain sandwich, fruit cups, whole fruit in general, ww wrap with pb and apple slices (or a banana), balance bars, veggies w/ or w/out dip…
Most being mix and match to get to the desired calorie level.
I personally don't think that the WW bread products are that good, but if eaten in moderation, like all things, they are not the devil. They are certainly better than the refined flour stuff.
Specifically on the mini-bagels. Not the worst thing you could eat, but just remeber mini dosen't = calorie free. If you are gonna eat 3 of the things, you might as well have a regular bagel.
Snacks for me: Cheese, cottage cheese, nuts, celery and pb, fruit, veggies, sometimes pepperoni, the occasional protein bar.
I feel we should maybe ask why you don't see yourself as a handful of nuts kinda guy or a pb on celery kinda guy?
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Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
heh heh, the only nuts I eat are peanuts, and if I eat those, it's by the barrel. Love me some peanuts. Celery is disgusting, I can't take it, or cottage cheese. I wish I liked cottage cheese, it's something that I would really like to eat but I cant. I tried forcing myself to like it, I just can't. As far as my mini bagels, I only eat 1 in the am with an apple and 1 in the pm. I bought a can of pineapples chunks in its own juice. I checked the ingrediants, and there wasn't anything added. The can has 2 servings, so I figure 1 to go with my mini bagel in am and pm. Should I ditch the whole bagel thing all together?
(really appreciate all the feedback. thanks!)
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heh heh, the only nuts I eat are peanuts, and if I eat those, it's by the barrel. Love me some peanuts. Celery is disgusting, I can't take it, or cottage cheese. I wish I liked cottage cheese, it's something that I would really like to eat but I cant. I tried forcing myself to like it, I just can't. As far as my mini bagels, I only eat 1 in the am with an apple and 1 in the pm. I bought a can of pineapples chunks in its own juice. I checked the ingrediants, and there wasn't anything added. The can has 2 servings, so I figure 1 to go with my mini bagel in am and pm. Should I ditch the whole bagel thing all together?
(really appreciate all the feedback. thanks!)
I'd stay away from the bagels honestly, there's really nothing about them thats good for you. Don't eat cottage cheese by itself. Try buying some frozen strawberries, thaw out 4 or 5 of them and mash them up, mix them with cottage cheese and add some splenda. That is my "dessert" every night, it really does taste good...or maybe im crazy.
If your'e going with nuts, make sure you measure it out before you start eating. Nuts are good (especially mixed nuts), but the calories can add up quick if you aren't careful.
What does "healthy" and "cleaner" mean to you? Knowing that might make the suggestions better.
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Bread isn't the devil, but if someone said they were going to eat a healthy snack, and then put some peanut butter on a piece of white bread, I can think of a bunch of things better than that.
I see a good mix of protein, fibre (with wheat, at least), carb, and fat. Small, calories controllable, and rather filling. *shrug* Whatever floats yer boat.
I like nuts, but the problem there is that they don't fill me up. I just need something to hold me over for about 2hrs in the am and the pm. I can ditch the bagels if it's too much bread, because I have 1 slice rye bread with my breakfast and canned chicken on whole wheat for lunch. So, I'm not against getting rid of them.
Healthy for me is doing without the nutrition bars. I gave up my promax and clif bars because I felt that there has to be something out there that doesn't have the sat fat content of these nutrition bars.
Cleaner for me, means giving my body fuel it can use rather then store.
AS- I'm open minded, and open to anything you can throw my way. I just need it to fill me for 2 hrs.
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I try to drink tea with my snacks. The caffeine curbs the appetite and the liquid helps fill you up.
I usually just eat left-overs for snacks. Although cottage cheese (which you said you don't like), PB, cheese, hard boiled eggs, yogurt, fruit, cucumbers, pickles, glasses of milk, work for me as well. Actually pretty much anything.
I see a good mix of protein, fibre (with wheat, at least), carb, and fat. Small, calories controllable, and rather filling. *shrug* Whatever floats yer boat.
I'm in agreement. I have bagels I use for homemade sausage, egg and cheese bagel breakfast sandwiches. Yumm. I also tend to use these as a PWO feed.
As for bread: No it's not the carbs. Lots of things have carbs. And WW bread isn't as bad as Wonderbread, and whole grain breads aren't as bad as WW breads (Heck even wonder bread makes a WW version).
That being said. You can certainly eat bread and be healthy. No troubles there. Just not my choice anymore.
If for example he is eating 150cals of bread 4 or 5 times a day (2 mini bagels, 1 slice in the morning, 2 at lunch?), he is eating up to 750cals of bread. I simply feel some of those calories could be better spent elsewhere.
And as for giving your body fuel it can use instead of store. Any calories over and above what your body needs to survive it's day, it will store. ie if I need 2000cals a day and I eat 1500cals of fat, I am not gonna store it.
Just like bread isn't the devil, neither are fats, saturated or otherwise, we need them all. There are pros and cons though and moderation is essential.
The only DEVIL food in my book is trans fats.
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
So if I replace my bagels with a banana, is that too much fruit? I normally cut up an apple before I leave for work into like 7 or 8 pcs. So it would be an apple and a banana for my am snack. Is that a too much fruit in one sitting?
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So if I replace my bagels with a banana, is that too much fruit? I normally cut up an apple before I leave for work into like 7 or 8 pcs. So it would be an apple and a banana for my am snack. Is that a too much fruit in one sitting?
I would personally prefer to go that route. What about buying some bell peppers and cutting them into slices, add some broccoli or other veggies and make little handy veggie bags made out of veggies you like?
Lots of people have given advice, mine is only one take. But at the end of the day if your calories in is less than your calories out you are gold.
In my original weight loss plan many moons ago, I originally ditched bread because I wanted the calories for more real food, veggies and protein. Not cause of any hatred of bread.
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
Bread is out for me personally since it has gluten and gluten turns me into a ravenous monster. I'd rather eat 2-3 bananas , 1-2 mangoes (or mangos?) or 4-5 kiwis or .. you get the picture.
Some people get hungry from fruit but if you handle bread, you can certainly handle fruit.
If I were in the US (am not) I'd go for jerkey and a piece of fruit as my preferred snacks. Like a couple of strips (say 15-20g of Protein) and an apple/banana/half a mango (or a whole one) etc.
Reason for preferring fruit over bread even when you're tolerating gluten.. fruit has a TON more vitamins/anti-oxidants & fiber. than bread does. It's also slightly easier to control portions with fruit than with bread.
Lastly, fructose has the benefit of not raising insulin levels and preferentially filling liver glycogen = better blood glucose stability, more glucose for the brain, being more levelheaded and ... anti-catabolic.. all things glucose won't do as well. Mind you.. level of fructose in fruit is about the same as HFCS roughtly 50% or so..= a bit over 5g per serving.. wooptidoo if you're so skeered of fructose.
Also.. I really like having coffee with something nice in it.. 2 minisquares of chocolate. Combine the snacks with coffee and you're golden. Coffee keeps appetite at bay for many hours on end. Don't have it before a meal as it already kills appetite before you start eating.
Og- I'm liking that bell pepper idea. You got any suggestions for how to prep that?
Espi- I'm gonna try the beef jerkey. Definetly gonna get some. Thanks!
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So funny.. just the very same day I posted this, there was beef jerkey on a display in the supermarket.. hideously expensive (to me, at least for just 50g of jerkey) but I still bought it, just like you'd sometimes buy expensive chocolate .. a treat!
This particular type was spicy.
If you really really love beef jerkey and have access to good quality meat, and may even get some wild buffalo meat, there's an option to make your own jerkey .. there are people I know who do this and since they were big buyers of jerkey, it makes sense.
Maybe Anne (realcdn) knows more, she also dries fruit AFAIK.
Yeah, a friend of mine made some. I've never really cared to try it, but I did and loved it. I went to the store and bought a bag. It has 3.5 servings, so i divided it up into 3 bags I can grab each day. I'm loving it. That may have been my missing link. I replaced mu bagels with it and had my jerkey today with a half can of pineapple chunks. I may sound like a loser, but I was excited to eat something different.
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Hey, anything that can break the monotony is good!
One of my favourite snacks is dry chicken satay (viz. w/o peanut sauce..) : very yum with a salad and egg(white)s.
Or another: strained yoghurt , which actually is one of my cheat foods as I try to havea dairy-free diet (having a mild milk allergy as well as an allergy to legumes, esp. soy & peanuts)
What I also love is trying out different types of fruit, like a pomelo (a giant Chinese sweet grapefruit)
No peanuts!!!! I'm so sorry. I don't know if I could live without peanuts. I love Thai food because of their peanut sauce. I like yogurts too, it took me a while but I was finally able to find a decent yogurt, low in sugar and fat, and great tasting. Thanks for all your help. I think I'm good to go with my jerkey and fruit. I looked up the clif bars, and they didn't seem as bad as I originally thought. Any takes on them?
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Since I don't live in the US, I don't know Clif bars. Generally protein bars are convenient and are great as a back up for when you can't /won't have your own food ready, like putting a few in a dashboard in case you get stuck w/o food.
I'm cheating on the peanut allergy by having peanut butter w/o soy lecithin = natural pb w/o emulsifiers. Took me a long time to figure out soy lecithin bothers me most of all. Generally pb is OKish in moderation .. so the one I use most is called 'Surinam pb' which is loaded with extra spicy Madam Jeanette peppers.. good on eggs or chicken.
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