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Does anyone eat quinoa? Its suppose to be the highest protein grain that there is. Not sure, but just wanted to know if anyone was interested in it.
Also, do anyone know of any other high protein grains to eat? Most of my protein is from red meat which I didn't really want to introduce back into my diet after not eating it for like 8 months. Unfortunately, it has more protein that chicken and fish. Plus, Im iron deficient so I think its helped a little with my dizziness.
Do you know of any other meatless high protein alternatives (beyond the powder, please)? Also, no dairy. Lactose-intolerant
2. I think I have Buckwheat @ home but Im back in school in Post-Katrina New Orleans. So stuff like that is hard to come-by. Also, I had it @ home for year. No idea what the hell to do with it
3. I accidentally stopped eating read meat. I just had no interest in it, especially since there were healthier options. However, calorically with iron, it doesnt pay off as much and red meat is a better option on this program. I don't know. Im just not interested in it. Plus there's a lot of animal abuse issue I have with it. Granted they'll die anyway to be put on my plate, but I have issues with abusing them until that point. Lastly, because of that, and other nutritional reason, I would want grass fed cow which are healthier for the cow and us. Not these cheap grain fed ones we have. But again, harder to find and also more expensive.
I really like quinoa tabbouli; it's one of my summer staple dishes. Make it just as you would any regular tabbouli, but substitute cooked quinoa (I rinse it under cold water after cooking to keep it from sticking/clumping) for the bulgur wheat.
2. I think I have Buckwheat @ home but Im back in school in Post-Katrina New Orleans. So stuff like that is hard to come-by. Also, I had it @ home for year. No idea what the hell to do with it
Almost anything that you can do with quinoa, you can do with buckwheat. It's good like a pilaf or stirred into soup. Like instead of barley in beef and barley soup. Only yours won't have beef, either. So, now it's chicken and buckwheat soup. mmmm mmmm.
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3. I accidentally stopped eating read meat. I just had no interest in it, especially since there were healthier options. However, calorically with iron, it doesnt pay off as much and red meat is a better option on this program. I don't know. Im just not interested in it. Plus there's a lot of animal abuse issue I have with it. Granted they'll die anyway to be put on my plate, but I have issues with abusing them until that point. Lastly, because of that, and other nutritional reason, I would want grass fed cow which are healthier for the cow and us. Not these cheap grain fed ones we have. But again, harder to find and also more expensive.
Those seem valid. Ground grass fed beef is semi reasonably priced, so it you ever get the urge, consider that. Most markets carry Laura's Grass Fed, vacuum packed.
My market carries some ground bison, as well. I'm not sure if it's grass fed and pasture raised. It tastes good. Again, it's ground.
I eat a grass fed beef, free range, imported from Italy, buy it from the HF store and its delicious and remarkably low in fat, 6g of fat per 4oz of beef. Ive never eaten anything quite like it. Beef is very good for you, high in L-cartinine.
I give my baby quinoa. I tried it a few times and cant seem to develop a taste for it.
I love quinoa. It's one of the things that I eat at least 2 or 3 times a week.
If you want more grains, also look into steel cut oats (not rolled oats). They have more protein, more fiber, and are overall more filling.
Another good high protein source are lentils. You can make 'em into a soup, a cold salad, a warm salad, a casserole, whatever.
If you really need a protein boost, a powder might be a good idea. There are some excellent whey powders on the market and they can be mixed with just about anything. I sometimes mix my vanilla one with orange juice (esp right after a workout for the additional carbs and protein together) and it tastes quite a bit like an Orange Julius to me.
Like KissedBySunshine, I'm looking to up my protein intake but not my red meat intake (or in my case my meat intake), so I'm taking notes.
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Buckwheat is another grain that's a complete protein and it tastes better.
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Almost anything that you can do with quinoa, you can do with buckwheat. It's good like a pilaf or stirred into soup. Like instead of barley in beef and barley soup. Only yours won't have beef, either. So, now it's chicken and buckwheat soup. mmmm mmmm.
I don't think I've ever had buckwheat as a whole grain, just as a flour. It sounds interesting.
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I really like quinoa tabbouli; it's one of my summer staple dishes. Make it just as you would any regular tabbouli, but substitute cooked quinoa (I rinse it under cold water after cooking to keep it from sticking/clumping) for the bulgur wheat.
That does sound good. I used to make tabbouli all the time.
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2. I think I have Buckwheat @ home but Im back in school in Post-Katrina New Orleans. So stuff like that is hard to come-by. Also, I had it @ home for year. No idea what the hell to do with it
Forgot. Kasha (not Kashi) is toasted buckwheat. If you don't see buckwheat on the shelf, look for for kasha.
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Like KissedBySunshine, I'm looking to up my protein intake but not my red meat intake (or in my case my meat intake), so I'm taking notes.
Just remember that plants aren't really that rich in protein. In about 400 calories of quinoa or buckwheat, there are only about 15g of P. Granted, it's better to maximize things when you're eating carbs anyway, but animals sources are much, much richer in protein.
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I don't think I've ever had buckwheat as a whole grain, just as a flour. It sounds interesting.
I do like buckwheat pancakes!
I just want to point out that buckwheat is not even a grain. It's also not related to wheat. It's a seed from a berry (so is quinoa).
Im going to whole foods tomorrow, so if I can find some reasonably priced grass-fed beef, I might try it. Cut also makes the difference. I only really buy Round cuts, not really loins. Otherwise, its just fatty meat. I'll see if Laura's Grass Fed is there. Thanks for being brand specific, Lost Dog. Again, Post-Katrina, so Im not sure whats here. I just moved to New Orleans 3 weeks ago
As for the protein powder, I would PREFER not to use it except for after the workout. That is the 1 thing Im actually listening to on this program beyond the workout itself. Im more of an all natural girl. The powder itself is extracted and man made.
I've been looking for non-meat high protein options but unfortunately, I haven't found any. And looking through the thread, neither have many other vegetarians. And yes, beef is SOMEWHAT good for you, it has its pros and cons. But red meat just isn't my thing. Its more I eat it because I need the iron, protein and B-12. If those things weren't essential in most meat items, Id probably be vegan.
I just want to point out that buckwheat is not even a grain. It's also not related to wheat. It's a seed from a berry (so is quinoa).
No grain! No wheat! Next you'll tell me there are no bucks in it!
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No grain! No wheat! Next you'll tell me there are no bucks in it!
Actually he's right. It's not. Thats one reason its safe for people with Celiacs to eat it. Amaranth is under the same category. Anyone know what to do with that?
I have some amaranth ... I love quinoa and buckwheat ... amaranth I haven't found what to do with it yet. That and millet. I have all of the gluten-free grains ... I guess I need to get more proactive in finding some good recipes. I did make a "power grains" kind of hot oatmeal from them (a little of everything it seems) from Tosca Reno's book ... but I need to find a good savory dinner recipe.
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Due to celiac/gluten intolerance, I stay away from wheat/rye/barley. I've never developed a taste for quinoa, and in fact, I really don't do well with most any grains. I do eat oats....I've gotten addicted to Bob's Red Mill gluten free steel cut oats, and their taste is truly wonderful. They take about 15 min. to cook, but I do up a couple of cups worth, then when done I measure into 1/2 c. portions and refrigerate the portions...ready to microwave when ready to eat. I usually eat it every other day, and these oats are even better than the McCann's steel cut oats.
Bob's Red Mill also makes the old fashioned style flat type oats....I sometimes do those up as pancakes....a combo of uncooked oats + cottage cheese + protein powder + egg whites + flax seed + cinnamon, all mixed in a blender. Then you cook the batter like a pancake, and they are absolutely wonderful, plus very high protein and very good fiber, good carbs, no sugar. You can put fruit on them, or sugar free syrup. This particular recipe I got from the Body for Life cookbook, although I added the flax seed and also some cinnamon to the recipe. if you want the actual recipe, let me know and I'll post exact amounts.
if you want the actual recipe, let me know and I'll post exact amounts.
Please do.
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I like both too. I've used quinoa in almost anything I'd use rice for. I've added it to turkey chili for a less meat but oh so filling meal, I've added things like fire roasted tomato or other veggies to it and I love the taste. I think it has a nutty taste that some people don't like but I can add honey to it and have it as an alternative to oatmeal.
My favorite buckwheat recipe is a "stew", use beef stock and replace beef cubes with buckwheat, big chunks of carrots and celery....yum.
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LOL @ the quinoa haters..I really like the taste actually, especially in soups /stews! It would be great as a tabouleh as well or anything where you'd use couscous for normally.
I've still not dared to eat buckwheat (silly I know) and have had it on the shelf for like 4evah. Amaranth is another non-grain that can be used as a grain-substitute..same story: have bought it but not yet used.
Red meat is really wonderful for all of the qualities it has.. if you dislike eating pork/beef because of the way they were treated, but balk at the steep prices for grass-fed organic beef or wild (unless you hunt yourself) try lamb. Apart from minced meat and stews (gulyas) I'm not big on red meat.. but give me steak of lamb and I'm drooling... ;D To my knowledge sheep are nearly always allowed to roam free outside. Then it'd only be the slaughter methods that would be offensive.
Depending on how strictly vegetarian you want to be, shrimp is a good protein source, as well as iron - 3oz. has 18g protein & 15% of USDA reccommendation for iron.
I use quinoa as a breakfast cereal - cooked, then add in some milk, maple syrup or brown sugar, toasted pecans and raisins &/or apples.
I made amaranth cakes w/ a mushroom "ragout" the other day. It was "okay". You can also pop it like popcorn in a dry pan - not exceedingly flavorful, but fun, and can easily used as a topper for bunches of food to add a light crisp crunch.
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Depending on how strictly vegetarian you want to be, shrimp is a good protein source, as well as iron - 3oz. has 18g protein & 15% of USDA reccommendation for iron.
I use quinoa as a breakfast cereal - cooked, then add in some milk, maple syrup or brown sugar, toasted pecans and raisins &/or apples.
I made amaranth cakes w/ a mushroom "ragout" the other day. It was "okay". You can also pop it like popcorn in a dry pan - not exceedingly flavorful, but fun, and can easily used as a topper for bunches of food to add a light crisp crunch.
OMG I WISH I could have shrimp and other shellfish. That would be my dream and could open up my diet so much!!! BUT unfortunately, due to severe food allergies and my dislike of spending nights in the hospital because my throat closes up, shellfish of any kind isn't a good thing for me. However, Im totally open to the lamb idea. I just need to figure out again much like the buckwheat and amaranth what to do with it. Im trying to figure out different types of fish. Im partial to Wild salmon which is 1. out of season 2. not being sold due to population and breeding reduction. Endangerment issues and the like. I was eating beef for a while on the NROLFW program but it honestly made me feel unlike myself. I've since stopped and retreated back to chicken, fish, and tofu and feel MUCH better.
The quinoa for breakfast idea is something I definately want to try and I believe I have all the ingredients except the raisins which im not a big fan of anyways. Reminds me too much of oatmeal (traumatic childhood experiences with oatmeal have put me off it for life ) but otherwise sounds great!!
OMG I WISH I could have shrimp and other shellfish. That would be my dream and could open up my diet so much!!! BUT unfortunately, due to severe food allergies and my dislike of spending nights in the hospital because my throat closes up, shellfish of any kind isn't a good thing for me.
That stinks! We are currently in shrimp baiting season here. 2 trips usually fills my freezer for nearly the entire coming year
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