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Hojima · 02-15-2008, 05:11 PM

Before this Christmas break, I was at about 193 and loosing weight. I had quit weight training and was just running 7 miles a day for 3 days (on the treadmill), then taking a break on the 4th. My muscles have undergone a bit of dystrophy, but that more or less stopped after a month and I've maintained my muscles mass. After the break, I gained weight from coming back home from my university and feasting daily. So I was at about 198 and decided I needed to loose weight again. The only thing that has changed is my diet. I used to oven bake a large Stouffers meal (for a family of 4), left the oven on warming and picked away at it until it was gone (it lasted about half the day so I only needed about 3-4 more small meals). The Stouffers meals generally had a lot of fat, so instead I switched to my usual meals. I usually have high protein meat (about 2 medium sized chicken or fish fillets) with two handfuls of corn and peas. But more frequently I've been eating the quaker oatmeal weight control cereal, which is basically oatmeal with whey protein, and I've had it low fat milk. Problem is, I'm at 209. This is messed up because I've gained more weight in the same time span than I did when I was pigging out during the break (not a day went by where I didn't fudge and cookies with milk). I have no clue what I'm doing wrong, but this is messed up. I now have about 3-4 small meals with about 3-4 bowls with the oatmeal (2 packets a bowl).

Cynic · 02-15-2008, 06:22 PM

Sounds to me, your making bad food choices. Sorry to sound like a dick, but that's it in a nutshell.

You're eating stouffer's, oatmeal in a packet, chicken or fish fillets (likely breaded).

Only a couple handfuls of corn and peas.

I would recommend a revamp of your diet, but you need to report it better.

How may times a day do you eat?
What do you eat at those times?

I would eliminate eating anything you get in the middle aisles at the grocery store. Stick the meat, produce, OLD FASHIONED OATMEAL, non-sugared dairy (cheeses, skim milk, plain yogurt, cottage cheese), etc.

Avoid anything it is heavily processed.

Hojima · 02-15-2008, 07:59 PM

The meat is not breaded, it has less than 3 grams of fat per serving and each packet of oatmeal has only 1 gram of sugar. I'll write what I eat in a typical day in order. Oatmeal, tuna sandwich, chicken with peas and corn, fish with peas and corn, a ham and swiss sandwich, fish again, 6 inch subways sub (another when I get back from the gym), oatmeal (about twice), and some beef flavored ramen. I eat in medium portions very frequently since I heard it boosts your metabolism. I think it may have been the sudden surge of milk that I've been having with the oatmeal. It gives me gas sometimes so I don't think my body takes it too well.

Cynic · 02-15-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hojima

The meat is not breaded, it has less than 3 grams of fat per serving and each packet of oatmeal has only 1 gram of sugar. I'll write what I eat in a typical day in order. Oatmeal, tuna sandwich, chicken with peas and corn, fish with peas and corn, a ham and swiss sandwich, fish again, 6 inch subways sub (another when I get back from the gym), oatmeal (about twice), and some beef flavored ramen.

Do so. A better look at what you're eating and how is beneficial. Also, look into using fitday.com or some other online calorie tracker.

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I eat in medium portions very frequently since I heard it boosts your metabolism.

Myth. It's not the size of the individual feeds, it's the calories overall. A nibbling diet does affect your insulin and cholesterol levels, but not your metabolism.

Hojima · 02-15-2008, 09:03 PM

My bad, what I meant to say was that I eat frequently because your body stores less fat, not that it speeds the metabolism. Thanks for your reply.

Defiant1 · 02-16-2008, 09:31 AM

I would look into trying to eat more whole foods: fruits, veggies, lean meats a majority of your day. Then supplement in whole grains for a few servings.

I personally eat some of the Quaker Weight Control Oatmeal for breakfast a few times a week. I mix in flaxseed, cinnamon, fresh berries, and extra protein. Is there a difference between the weight control oatmeal and old fashioned oats...I'm sure....is it a huge difference? I doubt it.

DirtyMartini · 02-17-2008, 08:11 PM

I think Cynic's got it right. First off, you're not really eating any vegetables (corn is a grain, not a vegetable). That leaves peas, which are pretty healthy but not the best you can pick from the plethora of vegetables out there.

in one day...

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Oatmeal, tuna sandwich, chicken with peas and corn, fish with peas and corn, a ham and swiss sandwich, fish again, 6 inch subways sub (another when I get back from the gym), oatmeal (about twice), and some beef flavored ramen.

You're eating about 3 servings of oatmeal, which is kind of a lot. You're eating two sandwiches as well as two meals of proteins & carbohydrates, and a bowl of fried, over-salted carbohydrates (which I guarantee you will cause you to retain a lot of water). I'd guess you're eating a LOT more calories than you're expending. And probably a lot more than you think you're eating.

Cynic's got it - enter your nutritional data into fitday and see what you're eating. Subway posts all its nutritional info online so you can see what's in a sandwich there. Some are pretty decent choices (like a turkey breast sub on wheat), others aren't (like the meatball sub on white).

RedLefty · 02-18-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Defiant1

I personally eat some of the Quaker Weight Control Oatmeal for breakfast a few times a week. I mix in flaxseed, cinnamon, fresh berries, and extra protein. Is there a difference between the weight control oatmeal and old fashioned oats...I'm sure....is it a huge difference? I doubt it.

The Weight Control type has quite a bit more fiber (6g vs. 4g) and more protein (7g vs. 5g) than old fashioned oats. It's a good choice.