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01-20-2008, 11:59 AM
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Protein sources
What are some great sources of protein. I know lean meats(turkey), peanut butter and whey, milk, nuts, eggs, cottage cheese. But are there any other sources????
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01-20-2008, 12:28 PM
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That's about it.
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01-20-2008, 03:05 PM
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If you handle them just fine, legumes are good too like lentils, chickpeas etc. Personally, I'm not in favour of soy (also a legume).
While technically not a grain, so perhaps they shouldn't be listed as such, but protein content is pretty high in quinoa and amaranth.
If you only meant red meat, try more fish and then there's always shrimp, lobster, crab, mussels, and squid/octopus.
For meat: there's also wild (or semi-wild) meat.. rabbit, hare, deer, venison. Over at IKEA I'd bought reindeer salami and thought it was pretty tasty stuff.
Did I cover everything? You can always try insects, but not many are willing to eat this.
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01-20-2008, 03:36 PM
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The reason I am asking is because I am trying to eat less then 150g of carbs on Sunday, the day in which I only lift.
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01-20-2008, 03:49 PM
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Albacore tuna is pretty high. Salmon is also (but at about 2x the price of tuna).
Dannon fat-free plain yogurt is 10g protein/cp.
Look at kefir. Since it's made from cultured milk, it may be a bit more protein dense then just milk.
While peanut butter is high, you need to combine it with a grain sometime in the day to count it as muscle building protein.
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01-20-2008, 04:00 PM
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How much protein are you wanting to eat and how much calories in total?
Amount of carbs has little do with amount of protein...
Are you a 'clean'tard or just in favour of low-fat protein sources?
There's an incredibly vast choice in meat.
Next time I'll be lifting, I'll be eating a heck of a lot of oven roasted chicken but not many carbs in the meal following the workout.
Today I'm having a lowered calorie/carb day and eat mostly low-fat fish (fake crab=surimi & pollock) and several whole eggs.
On days I allow myself more calories but don't want to eat a lot of carbs (eat more carbs every 4th day) I eat more nuts, fatty fish (eel is my favourite) or indulge in avocadoes & the like. Steak of lamb is one of my absolute favourites.
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01-20-2008, 04:07 PM
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The reason I am asking is because I am trying to eat less then 150g of carbs on Sunday, the day in which I only lift.
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Meat (fish, fowl, beef, pork, lamb), dairy (milk, cheese, yogurt, kefir), or eggs.
If you're looking for protein, there are really one those things and then some plant sources, which usually come with plenty of carbs.
It's not just you, but many people make this way too complicated. There are threads all over every forum on the internet with this exact question.
Before people started watching what they ate, they never felt that their choices were limited. Why are they now? They are basically the same now, as then. It's just how much of it you eat and the things you eat with it.
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01-20-2008, 04:15 PM
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did you not just have a post about being to skinny? I dont agree with 150g of carbs on one day, but if you are pretty advanced diet wise maybe it makes sense.
Whole milk, Hamburger, Steak, Pork chops, Roasts, Cheese, sasauge... the staples 
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01-20-2008, 04:57 PM
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What would be good for a low carb day then??? Because after supper I am at about 182g and that is mostly from veggies. I am also at about 1856 calories and about 185g of protein.
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01-20-2008, 05:11 PM
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What would be good for a low carb day then??? Because after supper I am at about 182g and that is mostly from veggies. I am also at about 1856 calories and about 185g of protein.
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01-20-2008, 05:15 PM
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Are you asking which protein sources or how many carbs for a low carb day?
If it's the first one, except for the dairy, none of those have carbs.
If it's the second one, I think Frank's suggesting that you shouldn't have a low carb day because you wanted to be bigger. Why do you have one low carb day?
I think you should pay a dietitian or nutritionist to come up with a meal and nutrition plan for you because you're absolutely wiggin' out on this stuff.
I've seen people tell you this before. You really don't know what your goal is, so you alternate between being worried about being too small, being able to run often and for long distances, and wanting a six-pack. Because of this you're going back and forth and secondguessing your food choices, too. Even when you do decide, you're nitpicking your choices to death.
Hire someone. But, any good hire will tell you that you have to pick a goal. If you have multiple goals, you'll likely have to take them in stages.
Or, you could just pick your goal and eat food. You know what's healthy. Just eat the amount that supports your current goal.
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01-20-2008, 05:46 PM
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Does anyone know of a good nutrtionist in the southwest part of CT???? An about how much would a session cost?? Also, I figured since I am not running I should not be taking in as many carbs. Also, my final number of carbs is 225g.
Last edited by Barrett : 01-20-2008 at 06:17 PM.
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01-21-2008, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Barrett
What would be good for a low carb day then??? Because after supper I am at about 182g and that is mostly from veggies. I am also at about 1856 calories and about 185g of protein.
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The vast majority of meats are zero carbs. A couple of seafood choices have carbs, but nothing serious.
Cottage is a low carb, not zero, but low.
Yogurts, plain. From what I understand from Milko, the number of carbs it contains is actually half of what they report. So if the label says 10g carbs, it's actually 5g/unit of measure.
Most cheeses of worth are zero carbs. String cheese has the highest protein to fat ratio I've found yet.
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01-21-2008, 11:08 AM
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In my opinion, whole eggs are the best source of protein with no carbs. They have the highest biological value for protein and contain a high level of BCAA's, not to mention they are cheap. Also, don't worry about the cholesterol because dietary cholesterol has shown to have little effect on LDL/HDL, the cholesterol in eggs is actually good for testosterone production and recovery from lifting.
On your diet, i would just say stick to a goal and find what works for you. The body's not a textbook so you have to find what your body responds to.
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01-21-2008, 12:18 PM
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Amen.
If you do well on low carbs, stick to that.
If you do better on a higher intake, stick to that one.
Or, if you want (and what I like best) cycle carbs & fats.
Since I cycle both I'm making a selection from protein sources that vary in fat content.
The proteins I select need to meet those concerns as well as be tasty and not too expensive. This rules out a lot of choices.
Oh, and please.. if you go lowish carb, don't be afraid of fat and eat a ton of protein.. there's only so much protein one really needs, with approx. 3-3.3g/kg BW (1.5g/lbs BW) to be the upper limit of what you can still expect results with. Most people grow muscle perfectly fine on 2-2.2 g/kg BW (1g/lbs BW).
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01-26-2008, 07:30 PM
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What does everyone think of Flax seed oil???? I have noticed that my protein intake is very low. I noticed that my is only like 125g I would like to get it up to 180g-190g. Any ideas???
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01-26-2008, 10:14 PM
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Chaka smell sleestak
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Flaxseed oil is fat.
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01-27-2008, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Barrett
What does everyone think of Flax seed oil???? I have noticed that my protein intake is very low. I noticed that my is only like 125g I would like to get it up to 180g-190g. Any ideas???
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milk
plus it has carbs in it, and fat, depending on what kind you get. Basically, the perfect food. 
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