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I ordered the CDMI protein in the following premium flavors: vanilla, strawberry, and orange creamcicle.
The protein mixes up pretty good in a shaker cup. Much better than the MPI I had purchased a while back....that stuff would leave this weirdo clumpy gel protein puffs in my shakes. Anyways, all the flavors have a chalky taste to them, which I guess is to be expected. The vanilla is decent, but the strawberry and orange taste ridiculous. I was planning on using them in my PWO shakes with plain oatmeal...but it tastes kind of rough and reminds me of pepto bismol. So I've been using the vanilla for my PWO instead which isn't as bad. I have started using the strawberry in my milk'n'berry smoothies and it is good that way. And the orange is really good with 8oz of milk and 8oz of orange juice mixed in.
This protein blend does not work with my morning oatmeal. I mix the protein powder and dry oatmeal together in a bowl and then pour boiling water and some frozen berries in and mix it all up. I have done this twice with this blend and both times it turned into this really gummy nasty mess. In fact, I had to throw the spoon away because after running it through a couple cycles in the dishwasher...it still had a hardened gummy cast on it. Crazy stuff!! I'm sticking with what Nitrean I have left for my morning power oatmeal.
I ordered the CDMI protein in the following premium flavors: vanilla, strawberry, and orange creamcicle.
The protein mixes up pretty good in a shaker cup. Much better than the MPI I had purchased a while back....that stuff would leave this weirdo clumpy gel protein puffs in my shakes. Anyways, all the flavors have a chalky taste to them, which I guess is to be expected. The vanilla is decent, but the strawberry and orange taste ridiculous. I was planning on using them in my PWO shakes with plain oatmeal...but it tastes kind of rough and reminds me of pepto bismol. So I've been using the vanilla for my PWO instead which isn't as bad. I have started using the strawberry in my milk'n'berry smoothies and it is good that way. And the orange is really good with 8oz of milk and 8oz of orange juice mixed in.
This protein blend does not work with my morning oatmeal. I mix the protein powder and dry oatmeal together in a bowl and then pour boiling water and some frozen berries in and mix it all up. I have done this twice with this blend and both times it turned into this really gummy nasty mess. In fact, I had to throw the spoon away because after running it through a couple cycles in the dishwasher...it still had a hardened gummy cast on it. Crazy stuff!! I'm sticking with what Nitrean I have left for my morning power oatmeal.
were they ridiculously good or bad? I've never had casein before.
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Has anybody hear tried optimum nutritions 100% gold standard whey and TP whey? I am trying to choose between the two. If I go with TP whey, i would get the whey isolate cold filtered. But, I don't know if it is beneficial to get only one type of whey because most premixed solutions come with isolates and concentrate. Also, what do you guys do, just order plain whey, and order the flavor packs on the side to add to it?
I got my order of Whey Concentrate from True Protein, but I can't find information about how much liquid to mix with it. Is it 1 scoop+8 oz or some other amount?
Has anybody hear tried optimum nutritions 100% gold standard whey and TP whey? I am trying to choose between the two. If I go with TP whey, i would get the whey isolate cold filtered. But, I don't know if it is beneficial to get only one type of whey because most premixed solutions come with isolates and concentrate. Also, what do you guys do, just order plain whey, and order the flavor packs on the side to add to it?
i've tried both. I used ON for years, and switch to TP because of the variation of flavors that ON doesn't have.
In terms of mixing isolate and concentrate, i would just get one or the other. I don't think it really matters. Isolate cold filtered tastes better (to me), than concentrate, but i've used concentrate for years as well.
I've done both in terms of ordering the plain and adding flavor myself, or having them flavor it. Adding the flavor yourself gives you more variation, so you don't have bags of protein laying around.
It all comes down to your own personal preference.
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I got my order of Whey Concentrate from True Protein, but I can't find information about how much liquid to mix with it. Is it 1 scoop+8 oz or some other amount?
Thanks!
i would say 1/8oz is about right. I've done 2 scoops with 12-16oz. It really depends on how strong you like your shakes. Add less water, and taste it, and if it's too strong, add some more.
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i personally don't know about this. It sounds good, but i don't know what it will taste like. Supposedly this stuff has been refined more than just grinding oats in a grinder, so it dissolves better. I'll probably order a pound or two w/ my next order just to see how it is.
I don't think it really matters what carb source you put in your PWO though, i think it just comes down to personal preference. 6-7 bucks seems a bit steep for a carb source, when waxy or sugar is cheaper.
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were they ridiculously good or bad? I've never had casein before.
Sorry for the delayed response. They tasted ridiculously bad. Too much of an artificial sweetener taste. Like I said though, they taste really good if mixed with milk...but with water....yuck.
I have been thinking about ordering a custom pwo mix again from TP but am sorta confused about wich ratios of carbs:protien and which type of carb source. Most premade mixes like Surge have both dextrose and maltodextrose in it.....but I the last batch I ordered tasted kinda bitter because of the Maltodextrose. Do most people just use dextrose as the only carb source or a mix of different types better?
I use to use Surge(loved the taste) quite often, but it's fairly expensive. And I usually start sipping on it halfway through my workout, finishing it when I'm done lifting....so I guess tasting good is a plus for me.
looks like it has some of each. If you want it sweeter,just go to custom, and up the dextrose and lower the malto. At least now you have a good jumping off point on where to go.
Hope this helps!
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thanks alco. And yeah I was looking at their premade mix that you posted. It looks pretty good and basically what I custom ordered last time. I'll probably go that route again. I just didn't know if other people had a custom mixes that they liked.....just lookin at options.
As soon as I am done this bag of ON Vanilla Whey I was thinking of getting the sample pack to test out the flavours. I had a question about a custom mix though, I considered getting a mix of 50% Whey Protein Isolate Cold-Filtration and 50% Casein but I didn't know which kind to get or if it mattered. Micellar Casein or Hydrolyzed Casein and secondly of anyone else has made a mix like that how did it turn out?
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As soon as I am done this bag of ON Vanilla Whey I was thinking of getting the sample pack to test out the flavours. I had a question about a custom mix though, I considered getting a mix of 50% Whey Protein Isolate Cold-Filtration and 50% Casein but I didn't know which kind to get or if it mattered. Micellar Casein or Hydrolyzed Casein and secondly of anyone else has made a mix like that how did it turn out?
i found this:
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Hydrolyzed Casein is a great product, but again like many of our other hydrolyzed proteins, this product is extremely bitter. When custom mixing your own blends, keep Hydrolyzed Casein below 25% for a good tasting product. We recommend you order your Hydrolyzed Casein separate to see how much the bitterness
effects you.
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Micellar Casein possesses a bland taste, but with all casein type proteins, they do possess a somewhat chalky mouth feel. Casein type proteins in general also have a much thicker consistancy than a whey might have, so mixing quantities should be less. Micellar Casein is an instantized protein so it can easily be mixed in a shaker cup or blender.
i would go with micellar if i were you, and had to choose between the 2. Casein is going to be chalky though, so know that going into it!
my friend gave me some casein ON protein to try, and it made the shakes really thick. I haven't tried TPs though. I've heard that ON isn't as pure casein as TPs or something to that effect, but i don't know how valid that is considering it came from the source of TP...
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Well I also have a 2lb tub of ON Chocolate Casein to finish off as well and I love it, it definitely makes a thicker shake (1 scoop to 14oz water); almost to the consistency of jello pudding.
I think you are right about the Micellar though, I might change it to a 70:30 ratio though, I will decide at the time of order. I will let you know how the mix turns out, I think I will start with a small order (1-2lbs.) just to test it first.
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Well I also have a 2lb tub of ON Chocolate Casein to finish off as well and I love it, it definitely makes a thicker shake (1 scoop to 14oz water); almost to the consistency of jello pudding.
I think you are right about the Micellar though, I might change it to a 70:30 ratio though, I will decide at the time of order. I will let you know how the mix turns out, I think I will start with a small order (1-2lbs.) just to test it first.
hey, i don't know if you ordered or not, but for future reference, i found this from Dante:
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hydrolyzed casein should probably never be mixed over 5-10% of a mix
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hey, i don't know if you ordered or not, but for future reference, i found this from Dante:
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hydrolyzed casein should probably never be mixed over 5-10% of a mix
No, I haven't ordered yet, I have more protein left then I thought I did so I decided to wait a little longer. If you shouldn't mix Casein over 5-10% then I think I might as well just keep the 2 seperate and stick with the casein before bed like I have been doing.
No, I haven't ordered yet, I have more protein left then I thought I did so I decided to wait a little longer. If you shouldn't mix Casein over 5-10% then I think I might as well just keep the 2 seperate and stick with the casein before bed like I have been doing.
well, he said the hydro casein. The team skip blend has casein in it along w/ whey and egg white. It's supposed to taste good. I dunno, i have some coming, so we'll see.
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i personally don't know about this. It sounds good, but i don't know what it will taste like. Supposedly this stuff has been refined more than just grinding oats in a grinder, so it dissolves better. I'll probably order a pound or two w/ my next order just to see how it is.
I don't think it really matters what carb source you put in your PWO though, i think it just comes down to personal preference. 6-7 bucks seems a bit steep for a carb source, when waxy or sugar is cheaper.
Depedns on what starch they are isolating.
I doubt it will be any different to WMS, which ultimately is no different to sugar. It just depends on what you want and how its used.
The major benefit WMS is amount of carbohydrate for a given osmolality.
You can do the same thing by diluting your carbohydrate beverage more, but then you also have to drink more.
Even then, fancy osmolarity is only important when you have a short time that you require glycogen to be restored. Multi-session days, strongman competition, something like that.
If you are training once per day, its pretty pointless, get the one that tastes the best.
well, he said the hydro casein. The team skip blend has casein in it along w/ whey and egg white. It's supposed to taste good. I dunno, i have some coming, so we'll see.
Hydro casein would generally only be mixed in at a low lvel because 1) good stuff is expensive and 2) if its good stuff, it has the flavour profile of drinking used sport socks.
Hydro casein would generally only be mixed in at a low lvel because 1) good stuff is expensive and 2) if its good stuff, it has the flavour profile of drinking used sport socks.
yea, i heard hydro casein is pretty bad tasting. Luckily, i haven't tried it. thanks for that info on the wms. I figured it was all pretty much the same. I have a ton of wms that i haven't been drinking. i need to get on that!
I did try gemma. It's not bad, but i definitely wouldn't drink it. It has a weird taste to it, some people say vegetable, but i dunno, it's just weird. i wouldn't recommend it if you want something that tastes good.
I've been drinking the team skip blend all the time. It's thicker than concentrate, and is more "shake" consistency. I would recommend it or just concentrate.
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for all those people who used the natural flavors (w/ stevia), this was posted on the TP forums:
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K the test results are in:
We have two versions of the Super Natural flavors, an economical version and a high end version. The high end flavors are amazing, I have never tasted natural flavors that even come close to them. However, the pricing is nearly double (probably more) than the Premium flavors.
The econo-naturals are the same price mark as the Premium flavors, but they are not sweet enough, the flavor isnt nearly as strong, but there is no stevia aftertaste.
We are going to go back and forth with the manufacturer and see if there is some middle ground that can be acheived but I need your guys' feedback:
Would you prefer awesome flavors at an increased cost, or ok flavors at a more affordable cost? I might start a poll on this so Doug and Dante can gauge your guys response, any feedback would be greatly appreciated!!
just thought i'd keep you guys in the loop since there were a few people on here who used the natural stuff.
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Also, we will be bringing back the Grape, Fruit Punch, and Cherry standard flavors for those of you that are looking to cut costs since the standard flavor demand has increased dramatically with the cost of gas.
Remember the natural stuff isn't a sure thing yet, especially given that the start up fees per flavor is CRAZY. But if an uneducated man like myself was to guess, i'd say a couple months, and we may see these.
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Comes out to about 18g/12g carb/protein per scoop. Then we got separate flavor powders -- Premium Chocolate Banana and Premium Orange Creamsicle.
Both have worked out awesome. Just 1/2 TSP of the flavoring into one or two scoops of the custom mix and it tastes great, especially when we use 1% milk. Dissolves well in a basic shaker cup.
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