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01-31-2008, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RedLefty
That was my exact problem -- my mixes were for PWO and had some dextrose and malto. So I thought that might sweeten it enough. Nope.
It wouldn't been nice to know if/how the sample flavor packs were sweetened, so that we could recreate that taste with our own mixes.
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i posted this question on the forums, so i'll see if i can get you an answer.
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02-01-2008, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alcoholiday
yea, but when you buy pre flavored, you don't have the convenience of changing a bunch of different flavors.
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I just ask them to divide the protein in some flavors. Let's say I had to buy 5 lbs, I'd ask for 2 lbs of Dutch Chocolate, 2 lbs of Vanilla and 1 lb Orange Creamsicle.
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02-03-2008, 11:00 AM
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Hiro Protagonist
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Houston, TX
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Alcoholiday helped me find out more about Trueprotein -- here are my takeaways:
The flavor sample packs only include Whey Protein Isolate (Cold Filtration) and the flavor packet. That's it. No carbohydrate additions or sweeteners. If you want to recreate the sample flavors, only order WPI (Cold Filtration) and the flavor.
I wanted to make PWO shakes with my order, so I did a custom mix with this:
-- Whey Protein Isolate (10%)
-- Whey Protein Concentrate (30%)
-- Maltodextrin (25%)
-- Dextrose (25%)
-- Glutamine peptides (5%)
-- BCAAs (5%)
-- No additional sweetener
This made each scoop equal to 15g protein / 15 g carbs. And I'll be honest and say it tastes totally disgusting. I ordered both Orange Creamsicle and Strawberry-Banana, and both were delicious in the sample packets. But when I changed the protein from WPI to WPC, added malto and dextrose, and added glutamine and BCAAs, it was just way too much blandness and bitterness that the flavoring couldn't rescue.
Lessons learned!
1) For protein, use WPI (Cold Filtration). It dissolves better and tastes better than Whey Protein Concentrate.
2) If you want to add carbs, stick to dextrose. It dissolves better and tastes much better than maltodextrin.
3) Don't add other stuff (glutamine, BCAAs) to the mix. If you want to add it at home, fine. But if you add it to your pre-mixed order and don't like it, you're screwed.
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02-03-2008, 11:21 AM
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That's unfortunate Lefty, because using Cold-filtered WPI drives the cost way up, over the cost of ON, again.
ON being $7.50/lb.
TP CFWPI being $9.39/lb, minimum. Add a premium flavor and it's over $10/lb.
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02-03-2008, 12:33 PM
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The flavor sample packs only include Whey Protein Isolate (Cold Filtration) and the flavor packet. That's it. No carbohydrate additions or sweeteners. If you want to recreate the sample flavors, only order WPI (Cold Filtration) and the flavor.
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are you sure? I'm pretty sure that my flavor pack samples WERE sweetened. I know I just mixed them up and they tasted fine. I got the separate flavors when I ordered my plain whey and in combination they work fine as well. So that part is true - but I cannot believe there is no sweetener. I have other (LorAnn) flavorings that I know are flavor only - and those with the whey are blech - need to be sweetened.
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02-03-2008, 12:42 PM
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Hiro Protagonist
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You're correct; the premium flavor packs already include sucralose in them according to the website.
That's part of what keeps confusing me. When you order a protein with a pre-mixed premium flavor, you still have the option to add sweetener. I assume that's above and beyond the sucralose already included in the flavor pack?
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02-03-2008, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LisaS
are you sure? I'm pretty sure that my flavor pack samples WERE sweetened. I know I just mixed them up and they tasted fine. I got the separate flavors when I ordered my plain whey and in combination they work fine as well. So that part is true - but I cannot believe there is no sweetener. I have other (LorAnn) flavorings that I know are flavor only - and those with the whey are blech - need to be sweetened.
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yea, i don't know what it could be.
I thought it might be the bcaas added to it? Those have a naturally bitter taste, so that MIGHT be it.
I get the whey concentrate unflavored, and the flavor packs separate, and they taste delicious.
I'm not sure about the sweetener with the premium flavors like you did. Plus, you added malto and dextrose to it, which SHOULD make it a little sweeter, even though malto isn't that sweet.
I think it HAS to be the bcaas. There's nothing else that would really give it a bitter taste like you're talking about.
If i were you, i would try contacting the TP people directly, and asking them this question. Either contact them through the Q&A, or go to their forums and ask them at: True Protein Forums | High Quality Nutrition and Protein Supplements - Powered by vBulletin
Tell them that you're unhappy with the protein as it doesn't taste right. They might offer you a replacement? It's worth a shot.
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02-03-2008, 09:01 PM
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ok, i just asked the question on the forum. i'll keep you guys posted on the answers.
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02-06-2008, 06:55 PM
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Cheesy Rack Guy Wannabe
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Ordered a few of the shaker cups so it's so much more convenient to have a shake at work.
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02-06-2008, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by stingo
Ordered a few of the shaker cups so it's so much more convenient to have a shake at work.
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I've heard good things about the turbo shakers.
I have two Blender Bottles and they perform well.
Otherwise, I tend to hate shaker bottles as being worthless for shaking up some wheys.
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02-06-2008, 08:17 PM
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Cheesy Rack Guy Wannabe
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Originally Posted by Cynic
I've heard good things about the turbo shakers.
I have two Blender Bottles and they perform well.
Otherwise, I tend to hate shaker bottles as being worthless for shaking up some wheys.
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Well all I can say is I used it tonight and there was nothing left at the bottom of the bottle when I was done.
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02-06-2008, 09:54 PM
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i like the shaker bottles where you can take all the things apart on it. I've had some before where the rings didn't come off of them, so you can't get them cleaned. I've also had some that i lost the rings on them, and then they spilled.
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02-06-2008, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stingo
Well all I can say is I used it tonight and there was nothing left at the bottom of the bottle when I was done.
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Then a couple questions:
1. Whose shaker bottle?
2. Whose whey?
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"Eat your god**** vegetables you little ****!" -- My Mom
"Eat...those...vegetables...or I'll RAM THEM DOWN YOUR THROAT!!!" -- Joan Crawford, AKA Mommy Dearest, AKA The Wirehanger.
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02-06-2008, 10:32 PM
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Cynic, I use EAS's 100% Whey with both an EliteFTS shaker and have used just a water bottle in some cases. Always mixes up easily and completely.
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02-07-2008, 12:48 AM
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Cheesy Rack Guy Wannabe
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cynic
Then a couple questions:
1. Whose shaker bottle?
2. Whose whey?
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Both are from trueprotein.com - the protein is a custom mix with chocolate BSL added.
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02-20-2008, 07:26 PM
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so i ordered some more protein and creatine from TP. I got the new strawberry and creme, vanilla, and chocolate banana flavors, as well as a batch of orange creme.
I have to say the strawberry and vanilla flavors are both very very good. I like how the vanilla is more of a vanilla bean flavor than a vanilla. Tastes a lot more "natural."
The orange creme, i got flavored already. It tastes completely normal, so i'm not sure what happened to red's batch. It has to have been the bcaas he added to it or something? I'm still stumped about that.
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02-20-2008, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcoholiday
The orange creme, i got flavored already. It tastes completely normal, so i'm not sure what happened to red's batch. It has to have been the bcaas he added to it or something? I'm still stumped about that.
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Did you order whey concetrate or the iso?
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"Eat your god**** vegetables you little ****!" -- My Mom
"Eat...those...vegetables...or I'll RAM THEM DOWN YOUR THROAT!!!" -- Joan Crawford, AKA Mommy Dearest, AKA The Wirehanger.
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