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Old 11-20-2007, 05:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I remember this one sentence he used to emphasize a point:

"The role of the liver in blood glycogen replenishing cannot be understated."

Or something very close to that effect. I've been tearing apart the DSN sub-forum for the last two hours trying to find itm, expanded to the entire forum, but I'm not finding anything.

Roland, you're a master of digging up hard to find stuff...

Can ya help?
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Nice Gobbla, I looked through all those you posted but I was missing it. You hit it. I was a bit off (more than a bit, actually), but this is THE post:

http://forums.jpfitness.com/377572-post29.html
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Cynic,

Here's a thread where I hash this topic out & leave bro carnage in my wake

Why do you people use fruit PWO? It is time for a change - Bodybuilding.com Forums
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Here's a thread where I hash this topic out & leave bro carnage in my wake

Why do you people use fruit PWO? It is time for a change - Bodybuilding.com Forums
Basil quoted this, and I have to agree, my favorite line:

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For those worried about overdoing fructose from fruit, untwist your thong panties. The average fruit contains less than 10g of fructose.

Now that I have your attention Alan, I want to make sure of this one point:

Is there a difference between the fructose from fruit and the fructose from HFCS?

People will try to argue that they are not the same, but, if they aren't the same, why do they share the same name? Post it here and I can refer people, because I am a terrible middleman. If I can't be the Neo, I'll be the Morpheus.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Basil quoted this, and I have to agree, my favorite line:




Now that I have your attention Alan, I want to make sure of this one point:

Is there a difference between the fructose from fruit and the fructose from HFCS?

People will try to argue that they are not the same, but, if they aren't the same, why do they share the same name? Post it here and I can refer people, because I am a terrible middleman. If I can't be the Neo, I'll be the Morpheus.
Love the bold!!!

There's no difference between HFCS-based fructose and fructose in fruit, other than their surrounding substances. Chemically, they're both fructose.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I wasnt getting enough fruit in my diet so instead of eating fruit for frutcoze i drank 1/2 gallon of pepsi per day. I somehow managed to gain weight.

This leads me to beleive that fruit is bad.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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why and what HFCS?

Excerpt from The Carbohydrate Files

"In recent years, sucrose has been replaced in many commercial products by corn syrup, which is obtained when the polysaccharides in cornstarch are broken down. Corn syrup is primarily glucose, which is only about 70% as sweet as sucrose. Fructose, however, is about two and a half times as sweet as glucose. A commercial process has been developed that uses an isomerase enzyme to convert about half of the glucose in corn syrup into fructose. This high fructose corn sweetener is just as sweet as sucrose and is used extensively in soft drinks."

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why and what HFCS?
I'm really more focused on the F in HFCS rather than the HFCS itself.

Someone on MH advised someone they should not be having fructose PWO and definitely not HFCS.

My logic is that the body will utilize carbs post haste PWO, so it matters little if it's dextrose or HFCS. Both are vacant of nutrients, but the HFCS does have the fructose for replenishing the liver.

However, it's more ideal to use fruit and berries. Strawberries having 135% Vit-C over oranges and only 40cals per cup. Similar low cal, high nutrient value for others. But I kind of like hershey's syrup or chocolate milk with the whey, so I'm also looking at dropping the dex and malt and just stick with what I can find with minimal effort at my grocery store.

If I made some mistakes in my thinking, I hope you and/or Alan can correct it.
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