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10-22-2007, 10:41 PM
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Metabolic Drive Complete alternative?
I realize Low Carb Metabolic Drive from Biotest is probably easy to make on your own (30% whey, 70% micellar casein), but what about the Complete version? I realize there are other weight gainers out there, and yes I realize smoothie "foods" with all that crap like cottage cheese, milk, whey, etc, are possible, but I'm willing to guess that ends up costing just the same as metabolic drive almost (plus it helps that the taste is uncomparable).
Basically, the rice oligodextrin, rice bran, barley flour, rice flour, oat fiber, inulin, and apple fiber (sorry i have a can of it right here next to me), seem too quality to compare to other brands that just use maltodextrin as their carb sources.
I guess my question is, are there any other weight gainers out there that compare to metabolic drive complete in terms of quality ingredients? I don't know exactly what all those things do, but they sure sound convincing (moreso than maltodextrin which is what is used in my pwo shake for crying out loud). Every one i've found as of yet has used maltodextrin.
P.S. VPX Zero Impact bars seem to have the most quality ingredients for a bar, and at 440 calories, you can't go wrong. 
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10-23-2007, 12:37 AM
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Has Pretty Lips
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 8,625
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milk
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10-23-2007, 08:39 AM
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Master of my domain
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Duluth, Minnesota
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Originally Posted by gobbla
milk
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Let me qualify that:
for weight gain, Whole Milk.
1 Quart
About $1.40 (Cheaper if bought by the gallon  )
Calories: 584
Fat: 32 g
Carbs: 52 g
Sugars: 52 g
Protein: 32 g (naturally perfect balance of casein and whey!  )
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10-24-2007, 03:15 PM
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Location: Beverly, MA
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If you need it in powder form for the sake of portability you could use the site that lets you build your own protein powder. I am drawing a blank someone help me out.
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10-24-2007, 03:39 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Minneapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Larrabee
If you need it in powder form for the sake of portability you could use the site that lets you build your own protein powder. I am drawing a blank someone help me out.
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trueprotein.com
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10-24-2007, 04:01 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Tampa Fl
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You need a "weightgainer" or just powdered protein.
For folks looking for gaining, I like adding the 2nd PWO meal. This one is just sugar and protein. I mean serious sugar. Cocoa puffs, snickers, whatever and throw in the quality protein. Seriously, your just looking to spike the insulin levels again. They spike with sugar. So spike man....spike.
Instead of taking a "weight gainer" why not just add more good fats to your meals. That can easily add up to 700-1200 kcals.
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10-24-2007, 04:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Beverly, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getgot211
trueprotein.com
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Yep. Thanks!
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10-24-2007, 06:44 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Larrabee
Yep. Thanks!
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unfortunately, when you figure it all out, it comes out to basically the sam exact price, save maybe 1-2 bucks. also, i said metabolic drive complete, not low carb version. you can't get the carbs that come in the complete version from trueprotein, but instead just malto and dextrose stuff (if i wanted that i'd just have biotest surge before going to bed, but that'd be stupid). so no, milk, and make your own, is not the same.
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10-24-2007, 07:31 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lifter85
unfortunately, when you figure it all out, it comes out to basically the sam exact price, save maybe 1-2 bucks. also, i said metabolic drive complete, not low carb version. you can\'t get the carbs that come in the complete version from trueprotein, but instead just malto and dextrose stuff (if i wanted that i\'d just have biotest surge before going to bed, but that\'d be stupid). so no, milk, and make your own, is not the same.
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No, not the same, not the same at all...
But just as good! 
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10-24-2007, 07:40 PM
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I think before I post
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Queens, NY
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Metabolic Drive Complete:
Cals - 310
Fat - 8g
Carbs - 23g
Protein - 41g
That's not a lot of carbs. I have a protein drink at night with 1.5 cups of milk and half a serving of a casein/whey blend that totals 347 cals, 14g F, 21g C, 37g P. It can be done.
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