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Old 01-16-2008, 12:49 PM   #121 (permalink)
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I like EAS because of the flavor and the way it mixes.
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:11 PM   #122 (permalink)
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I'm a Biotest bitch all the whey. Haven't tried anything yet that tastes better or mixes easier than MD. Used ON a long time ago and it gave me pretty bad gastro problems.

Maybe EAS has changed thier formula since I last tried it, but the big problem I had was trying to get that stuff to mix.
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:41 PM   #123 (permalink)
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I've recently switched to trueprotein.com Whey Protein Isolate Cold Filtered.
Mixes well. I get it unsweetened and unflavored and use their flavorings.
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Old 01-16-2008, 02:39 PM   #124 (permalink)
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I've recently switched to trueprotein.com Whey Protein Isolate Cold Filtered.
Mixes well. I get it unsweetened and unflavored and use their flavorings.
which flavorings? I have the chocolate BSL which is good
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:17 PM   #125 (permalink)
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My reviews are in the "trueprotein" thread - but off hand banana bash is good, straw-banana is also good. J. likes orange cream (and the other citrus) more than I do (Orange & Orange cream taste orange like Tang is orange). I also use LorAnn flavors with my own sweetener sometimes.
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Old 01-16-2008, 10:04 PM   #126 (permalink)
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can you take hydroxycut hardcore while on this or does it have too much caffeine? Also has any1 tried hydroxycut hardcore? Because I'm hearing mix reviews.
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:24 AM   #127 (permalink)
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Anyone ever tried Body Fortress brand econo whey at Target $12 per 2# ??
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:34 AM   #128 (permalink)
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Anyone ever tried Body Fortress brand econo whey at Target $12 per 2# ??
mixes well with a spoon. taste ok, the vanilla has a chemical aftertaste
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:03 PM   #129 (permalink)
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I use Nitrean from At Large Nutrition. It is a mix of whey/casein/egg protein. In my opinion, the best out there.
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I use Nitrean from At Large Nutrition. It is a mix of whey/casein/egg protein. In my opinion, the best out there.
That's what I am using, too. I am NOT a shake person. I was determined to try a protein shake again and I got lots of recommends for Nitrean. I really like it and I'm going to try the vanilla next. Especially when I switch to Plan B so I can add some fruit.

I have no other protein shake comparison since I normally hate shakes, but Nitrean I have no problem with.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:25 AM   #131 (permalink)
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I have tried a bunch of different brands and so far I think that Nitrean is the best product available.
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:44 AM   #132 (permalink)
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I believe that in the book it is stated to have 20g protein before and another 20 g protein immediately following workout. Is this just an estimate? Wouldnt a bigger guy need more protein than a smaller guy? Or is it assumed the bigger guy would lean more towards 30+g before/after?
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It's assumed that the bigger guy will eat more food (aka protein) over the course of the day than a smaller guy. The pre\post workout drinks are already on the high side of what you're going to be able to use short of some really crazy sessions.
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:43 AM   #134 (permalink)
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TNT ketosis question:

I don't have the book in front of me, and maybe I missed something. I know he talked about ketosis in one of the last chapters, but I don't remember it being essential to the dieter's success. I'm in my third week of plan A, and ketostix say I'm no where close to ketosis. According to Fitday I'm keeping carbs <50g/day.

I do have a glass (or two) of red with dinner every night, and that could be keeping me out of ketosis. But my question is: do I even need to worry about it?
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:49 AM   #135 (permalink)
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Don't sweat it. There's been a lot of ketosis discussion over at the TNT forum on this. It's really not necessary, but just an added bonus (if that).
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even if ketosis were emphasized and important, you could be in ketosis w/out having it register on the sticks - so that isn't a 100% guide either.
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Thanks guys.

I guess I was expecting to see ketones if my body was using fat for energy. But ketostix are expensive, so I'm not going to waste any more of them.
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Well I'm 3 days into my 3rd week and am astonished at the lbs ive lost(10), amount of carb cravings(none actually) and the amount of energy I have all day( tremendous amount) with no highs and lows like with carb meals. This is a great plan!
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Well I'm 3 days into my 3rd week and am astonished at the lbs ive lost(10), amount of carb cravings(none actually) and the amount of energy I have all day( tremendous amount) with no highs and lows like with carb meals. This is a great plan!
That sounds great Mike!

I bought the book but haven't started the plan yet.

Can you post some samples of what a typical day of eating is like for you? How often do you eat?
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Hi all, new to the boards, and also just starting TNT ... Book hasn't arrived yet, but I popped into bookstore and looked over a copy to get started. Phase 1 seems pretty straight forward: meat and protein, fat, veggies. Feels weird (and tastes great) eating this much fatty meats and cheeses, though, as I usually try and keep the saturdated fat to a minimum. And I memorized the workout for the first 4 weeks.

I have a few questions/concerns:

1) Soy is not on the things you can eat list, why is that?

2) No Sugar Jello is allowed; does that include No Sugar Jello pudding?

3) I didn’t read the whole book, so I may have missed discussion of this, but once the 12 weeks are up, assuming I am at the weight/body composition I am aiming for, is it feasible to think that I can go back to a couple of servings a day of “good carbs” (ie, fruit, beans, whole grains)? That has always been my gripe and experience with “diets” … it has to become how you eat even after the diet, or your body will easily gain back fat. And to that end, I can’t see myself strictly limiting carbs, or eating this much meat/saturated fat in the long term.

4) I will be training for a charity bike ride … ie at least once a week, I will be riding 30-70 miles; and twice a week doing some higher intensity, shorter rides/spinning classes. I will need extra calories for this, which I would usually associate with carbs. Can this training be reconciled with the TNT diet?

Thanks in advance for any help here.
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1) Soy is not on the things you can eat list, why is that?
According to this, it has a lot of carbs in it.

WHFoods: Soybeans, cooked

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If it has zero carbs in it, then you can.
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SF Jello, yes.

SF Pudding, no.
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That sounds great Mike!

I bought the book but haven't started the plan yet.

Can you post some samples of what a typical day of eating is like for you? How often do you eat?
a typical day would be omelette w/vegies and cheese perhaps with bacon or turkey sausage

a portion of skin-on chicken(drumsticks are my favorite)with salad,oil and vinegar maybe some cheese or boiled eggs

a burger patty with melted cheese sauteed onions and mushrooms broccoli florets with ranch dressing for dipping

preworkout protein/postworkout protein

polish sausage, sauerkraut ,sauteed mushrooms and onions

about 1.5-2 gallons of water a day
I eat about every 3-4 hours
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SF Jello, yes.

SF Pudding, no.
Just found this:

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Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1 snack
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Amount per Serving

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Calories 60 Calories from Fat 10


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% Daily Value *
Total Fat 1.5g 2%
Saturated Fat 1g 5%
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 180mg 8%
Total Carbohydrate 14g 5%
Dietary Fiber 1g 4%
Sugars 0g
Protein 2g 4%
Lots O' carbs.

To press the point, I tried finding this info in Kraft's website, but they seem to be hiding it. Clicking on the sugar-free link tend to take you to a list of flavors, clicking on them takes you to all the types of that flavor, sans sugar-free...it's a very winding and convoluted system. I have to wonder what they are trying to hide.
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Great, thanks for that. I will have to hide away my puddings.
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3) I didn’t read the whole book, so I may have missed discussion of this, but once the 12 weeks are up, assuming I am at the weight/body composition I am aiming for, is it feasible to think that I can go back to a couple of servings a day of “good carbs” (ie, fruit, beans, whole grains)? That has always been my gripe and experience with “diets” … it has to become how you eat even after the diet, or your body will easily gain back fat. And to that end, I can’t see myself strictly limiting carbs, or eating this much meat/saturated fat in the long term.


Not sure what your goals are. Twelve weeks is just the trial period for people to try the diet and get some significant results. You can continue on TNT indefinitely; at the end of the 12 weeks, re-evaluate your body comp goals and pick one of the plans that lines up with your goals.
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Is this a good breakfast for TNT Phase 1?

3 Jumbo eggs scrambled with 3 tblspns of cream
2 Johnsonville Turkey w/ Chedder sausages nutrition info
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No.

The turkey sausages have 4g of carbs per sausage, two of it from sugar. AFAIK, all your carbs should come from vegetable matter and no where else.

Try this:

2 whole eggs.
1/2cp egg white.
2tbsp cream.
3-4 oz lean ham, diced. Make sure it's packed in natural juices.
1/4cp shredded cheese.
1 tbsp butter.

Whip up the eggs, whites and cream.

Melt the butter.

Throw in the eggs.

Throws in the ham and cheese.

Scramble it up.

It's bigtime good. Add some chopped green and red peppers, onions, chives, etc if you please.
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Thanks, that does sound pretty good. I will give that a try. I think the most difficult thing for me is coming up with meals for TNT and especially bringing those meals to work with me. If I don't bring my food to work and I come in late my food options are few and bad. I know planning ahead and fixing things up a head of time is key. I also don't want to get tired of eating the same things over and over again.

I would love to see any ideas for TNT meals that anyone has that I could bring to work with me that are relatively easy to prepare.
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When I did the atkins diet, it thought of it in terms of its basic principles:

meat
vegetables
cheese

Now, a cream based salad dressing is usually acceptable. I like ranch, parmesan and caesar. For cheese, lots of string cheese (best protein to fat ratio), shredded colby jack, mexican seasoned, cream cheese, etc.

Meats is practically unlimited. You can even eat 75% lean ground beef, simply because it has zero carbs. There are a couple seafood items that have carbs, but it's only two (I forget which).

I ate a lot of salads during that diet.
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