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Seriously, you guys should just buy the book. Sometimes it's nice to know the science of what you are doing. It helps to keep me on track. As a side note check out what I made a couple nights ago on plan A
It's a very good book. It's more than just what to eat, it's very motivational to know why you should eat it. Plus, as Julie said, great workout plan by Alwyn. Recipes, too.
TNT Diet $17.13, today on Amazon. That's only the cost of three fast food meals that you shouldn't be eating, anyway!
I'm stopping by B&N to pick up a copy on my way home, need to drop about 20 lbs of holiday beer and cookie fat. The website says they have it in stock.
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That may be in the warehouses that bn.com draws from, not necessarily at your local store. Just FYI - I'd call the local store to see if they do have it.
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They have a "check store availability" link on their website that searches by zip code, that said my local store had it in stock. Which they did, for 20% off.
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They have a "check store availability" link on their website that searches by zip code, that said my local store had it in stock. Which they did, for 20% off.
Ah ok - shows you how often I go to bn.com - glad you got it.
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Just wondering how Columbus George is doing on this diet. Sounded like he experienced back in mid-November what I would experience if I start this diet. Haven't seen any posting from him since.
Ok, so I bought the book and have read the first 5 chapters. For lunch today I had a roast beef and cheese samich with mayo, no bread. I'm going out for a walk and I'm going to stop by the Safeway for some bagged veggies and sour cream. It's going to be hard to skip my oatmeal in the morning, but it's only for a few weeks.
So far it sounds very similar to Atkin's New Diet Revolution.
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question for you, I started the TNT diet at plan E (I'm not trying to lose weight). I did actually lose a few pounds this last week. After this past weekend I didn't have two many carbs, just some red wine. I am eating the protein and carb for the muscle building phase an hour before I work out 3 times a week. I am running and playing basketball on the other days. Do you think I should eat carbs before I do those things, or just stick to protein and only eat carbs on the days I work out?
Ok, so I bought the book and have read the first 5 chapters. For lunch today I had a roast beef and cheese samich with mayo, no bread. I'm going out for a walk and I'm going to stop by the Safeway for some bagged veggies and sour cream. It's going to be hard to skip my oatmeal in the morning, but it's only for a few weeks.
So far it sounds very similar to Atkin's New Diet Revolution.
question for you, I started the TNT diet at plan E (I'm not trying to lose weight). I did actually lose a few pounds this last week. After this past weekend I didn't have two many carbs, just some red wine. I am eating the protein and carb for the muscle building phase an hour before I work out 3 times a week. I am running and playing basketball on the other days. Do you think I should eat carbs before I do those things, or just stick to protein and only eat carbs on the days I work out?
It doesn’t tell you what to do in my case. It says that cardio is optional but if you do it, try and do it on the days that you don’t lift. But it doesn’t say anything about eating protein and carbs before you run. I usually play basketball for awhile and then run on the treadmill. I am doing Plan E. I would think it would be smart for me to eat the 20g of protein and 40g of carbs before I play bball and run but wanted to see what you guys think.
Hey Mike, if I remember correctly, I think everyone is supposed to start on Plan A before doing any of the other programs no matter what your goal is. If that's the case I would try upping your daily calories a little bit so you don't lose weight and consuming some extra protein shakes before and after your basketball sessions.
Got a quick question on usable carbs. My wife found some information, while trying to expand her food options, since she is trying Plan A also.
She found some information which brings the whole usable carbs/fiber ratio into question, granted most of the examples are dealing with vegetables, but some fruits are listed along with High Fiber cereals (ie All Bran with Extra Fiber and Fiber One)
Strawberries might be pushing it, but the raspberries, blackberries, and high fiber cereal seem at a glance to be OK with Plan A, in at least moderation.
Anyone have any input???
Also, does anyone know about using ground flaxseed and almond meal instead of flour for baked goods such as muffins and pancakes. This seems to be done the same line as the nexgen muffins, that are advertised in the book (Check the website out last night, every type of muffin they have list is sold out ) . Replacing the flour with high fiber alternatives.
She found some recipes she wants to try out, but not if it is going to sabotage the diet.
Yeah the muffins seem to be sold out for a while now, not sure why. How many of the recipes in the book has she tried?
We haven't tried any yet, she is out as I type this tracking down Flaxseed meal and Almond meal. Almond meal is expensive at $13/lb. But if it works and does count as "carbs" it will be worth it.
Okay fine. YOU made me buy the book today. haha - Maybe you should ask the authors for a promotion
I wouldn't hear of it! Adam is a great guy and very accessible if you have questions. And Dr. Volek teaches at my alma mater (UConn).
But people should buy the book, not because Adam and Dr. Volek are nice people, but rather because it is a solid plan that works (see JPs photos in the photo forum). It is easy to read, entertaining, and makes good sense. And it works.
So spend the $20 and get the book!!!
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you could always shoot Adam a PM from here and ask him about the berries in relation to your goals - I was already including 70g of berries in a shake for breakfast - and just calling it modified TNT-A
you could always shoot Adam a PM from here and ask him about the berries in relation to your goals - I was already including 70g of berries in a shake for breakfast - and just calling it modified TNT-A
Not certain if I should bother a busy man, such as Adam or Dr Volek, with such a question. But maybe I will get lucky and Adam may peruse this thread and I will get luck.
But I am guess someone else will be able to answer it.
No fruit during Plan A. Once you get to another Plan, you'll find that there are plenty of opportunities for fruit.
Instead of looking to expand options into foods that aren't on the list, look more to how to get creative with the foods on the list.
Bottom line is that you should try Plan A and see if it works for you. If after four weeks, you change things up a bit (fruit here and there) and things don't work as well, you know the baseline to go back to.
If you deviate too much from the plan, you're no longer on TNT, you're on your own diet plan, for good or bad.
Berries are a gateway fruit, anyway. Berries today. Pretty soon, you're eating apples in the alley behind the office and sneaking raisins into your homemade trail mix. At the end of the four weeks, you'll be wallowing in a mango induced coma, fat and lazy, on a soiled, sheetless mattress. Overhead, a bare lightbulb swings...
My Doctor told me that I should eat five pieces of fruit per day. Can you comment?
It's common advice to eat as much fruit as you can, due to its content and variety of active compounds that may help fight disease.
However, we provide our recommendations based on the guidelines used in Jeff's studies, and to make sure everything stays simple. No reason you can't add some fruit and still eat low-carb, especially "low-sugar" fruit like berries. It's a complicated thing because once you tell people they can eat this and that the "rules" of the diet change and you can't keep the guidelines as simple. Part of our philosophy was that, if we can get people to eat lots more vegetables, they'll get the benefit of an increase in disease-fighting chemicals but without having to worry about counting carbs, etc.
Fruit contains more carbs than low-starch vegetables, so this makes a recommendation such as, eat all the fruit you want, difficult. But having a 1/2 cup of a day (about 7 to grams sugar) to a cup a day can work out just fine. If you try to eat 5 apples (5 servings), though, you'll be at 100 g of carbs right there (granted some of them fiber), and that's getting away from what we're trying to accomplish. It might work out great for you, but it's also a different diet.
However, if you go with a plan in which you eat carbs around your workout, you could eat a couple of servings of fruit right there. So maybe you like Plan A, but want to eat more fruit. Have 1/2 a cup a day on non-workout days, and then have an additional 1 to 2 servings around your workout on the days you exercise. Combined with increased vegetable intake (hopefully 4 servings or so), you'll now be eating an abundance of produce.
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Do I only count Net Carbs? You can do the whole net carbs thing but the one downside is that would mean unlimited fiber (which really isn't a problem for most people, but worth noting). I'm not convinced that super high fiber diets are advantageous. One thing that people forget is that fiber blocks the aborption of other nutrients which seems like a good thing for most people (ie those following a high-calorie diet), but not necessarily so great if you want the nutrients you eat--and you do want those nutrients when you're following TNT.
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Berries are a gateway fruit, anyway. Berries today. Pretty soon, you're eating apples in the alley behind the office and sneaking raisins into your homemade trail mix. At the end of the four weeks, you'll be wallowing in a mango induced coma, fat and lazy, on a soiled, sheetless mattress. Overhead, a bare lightbulb swings...
Classic!
Lost , how long did you spend on plan A. I have a decent amount of fat to lose so I was thinking I am going to do plan A until I can no longer tolerate it!
Lost , how long did you spend on plan A. I have a decent amount of fat to lose so I was thinking I am going to do plan A until I can no longer tolerate it!
That's my plan, too. In fact rather than change Plans, I may have a periodic carb day (my daughter wants to go to Magic Mountrain, for instance) or pwo meal with carbs (I'm going to a tapas party which will have lots of carbs, but on very small plates), as allowed under some of the other plans.
Bottom line is that the fastest fat loss will be with the most amount of time on Plan A, whether it's four weeks or twelve.
Thanks Mark, that pretty answers the question for me on the fruit and net carbs.
And thanks LD, for the laugh and the scare tactic.
I still plan to stay away from the low carb fruit, but I think my wife is starting to get the "heron-addict" shakes from fruit withdrawal, so she is looking from something to "take the edge off"
That's my plan, too. In fact rather than change Plans, I may have a periodic carb day (my daughter wants to go to Magic Mountrain, for instance) or pwo meal with carbs (I'm going to a tapas party which will have lots of carbs, but on very small plates), as allowed under some of the other plans.
Bottom line is that the fastest fat loss will be with the most amount of time on Plan A, whether it's four weeks or twelve.
LD, our you planning on using Plan A (aka diet) to get shredded, rather than relying more on exercise? I am planning on doing your above plan myself (after the initial 4-6 weeks), but I have a lot more body fat than you do. I figured it I did get to a lower body fat, say 10%-14%, I would have to do something different to get to the "cover man" chiseled look.
I'm sure this has been answered, but what about peas? They aren't mentioned specifically as being a starchy vegetable in the book, but they aren't exactly mentioned as ok either. I always thought they were considered a starchy vegetable along with corn and carrots. Any thoughts?
) . Replacing the flour with high fiber alternatives.
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