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Just bought the book and should be getting it next week. What are some of the results that you guys have had?
I like it. I'm on Plan A and expect to stay on Plan A until at least March 2008. It's easy to follow and easy to get back on track after a slip. Food variety is good and going back to real butter, real cheese and real cream in my coffee was a delight. Leaving out fruit for Plan A made me rediscover vegetables.
I blogged my first 20 days on it in detail. Most significant result has been a lack of cravings, and higher energy levels, even during the first week. I also found that not eating sugar re-sensitized my taste buds. When I did go off track and have an apple (day 21) it was astonishingly sweet. Eating out is very easy: think meat and veggies. I'm heading to a local bar for ufc watching tomorrow and it will be steak+veggies+unsweetened iced tea.
My favorite quote from the book is at the top of p.27: "if you aren't enjoying the diet, you aren't eating enough fat".
I've been on only for 5 days so I'm pretty much a TNT newb around here. One thing I really like is the food variety. I really haven't had any cravings that I can't find a TNT approved substitute for( so far). The one thing I've done differently so far is made my first week of workouts really light until my body adapts to low carbs. I wanted to get the diet down before I upped the exercise intensity. For example, instead of HIT this week, I'm just doing outdoor walks. Instead of DL's and Front Squats I've just been doing no weight prisoner squats and bulgarian split squats. I guess not everyone will have to do this but there is no way I can work out with heavy weights when I got a low carb headache /mental fog going on.
I'm six days in on the diet, and I'm happy so far. I'm finding it much easier to stick to the low-carb thing than just about anything else I've tried. The lines are just too clearly drawn to be have any wiggle room.
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I'm doing plan E and its great. Its not difficult to follow at all. Some carbs after I work out and on Fridays and/or Saturdays I'll eat some carbs. I haven't lost a real lot of weight, maybe about 8-10 pounds so far, but for the first time I've had some weight loss and no signifitcant decreases in my lifts. I plan to continue to follow it until I creep down to 175-180 range, hopefully with the same numbers in my lifts I had when I was 200lbs. Even if you aren't a huge fan of low carb diets, the book is written really well and easy/fun to read. At first I didn't like the no fruit idea, and it took me some time to get all the kinks worked out in what is/isn't low carb. If, down the road someday, I were to follow it again I think it would be even easier. So its good knowledge to have.
Hi all! I just stumbled upon this web site and think its great. I bought TNT diet last week and have read through it. I wanted to ask what you think I should do. Here’s my situation; I’m 29, 6 foot and weigh about 170 pounds. The main reason I got the book is to get stronger, be healthier, and turn some of my fat in my stomach into muscle (6 pack). My goal is not really lose weight.
Do you think I should start with plan E right away or follow the book and do plan A for the first 4 weeks. I just am afraid that I will lose too much weight. Hope that question makes sense. Thanks!
Hi all! I just stumbled upon this web site and think its great. I bought TNT diet last week and have read through it. I wanted to ask what you think I should do. Here’s my situation; I’m 29, 6 foot and weigh about 170 pounds. The main reason I got the book is to get stronger, be healthier, and turn some of my fat in my stomach into muscle (6 pack). My goal is not really lose weight.
Do you think I should start with plan E right away or follow the book and do plan A for the first 4 weeks. I just am afraid that I will lose too much weight. Hope that question makes sense. Thanks!
I don't know. That's a good question. My fear would be that Plan A would have you lose weight. 170 is fairly light for 6' unless you have hardly any fat. How lean do you think you are?
I don't know. That's a good question. My fear would be that Plan A would have you lose weight. 170 is fairly light for 6' unless you have hardly any fat. How lean do you think you are?
I would say Im pretty lean. Not sure what my body fat is. My whole goal is to get stronger. I'm not looking to get huge like a body builder, just a lot more toned. Thats the only reason why I think I might want to start on Plan E instead of the first 30 days on Plan A. Should I just try something else beside TNT? I really like what they have to say though. Thanks for your input.
Plan E is a fine way to eat for health, that's for sure. I don't know how you eat now, so what changes you see could depend on the difference in your eating styles.
Plan A is like priming your body to process fat better and helping you develop a taste for non-starchy foods. But, it also leads to quick fat and weight loss for most people, since they cut out a lot of foods and don't replace most of those calories.
Plan E is a fine way to eat for health, that's for sure. I don't know how you eat now, so what changes you see could depend on the difference in your eating styles.
Plan A is like priming your body to process fat better and helping you develop a taste for non-starchy foods. But, it also leads to quick fat and weight loss for most people, since they cut out a lot of foods and don't replace most of those calories.
Try it.
I eat fairly healthy now, but I do eat a ton of carbs. So you would suggest just start on Plan E right away?
You could go either way. Start with A and see how you do. If you're just losing fat, what's the big deal? Maybe that will quickly get you to abs and then you can transition to D and E to gain some muscle and strength. Or hit E right away, but you won't have the benefit of the "fat metabolism" yet. That can take a lot of time if you have lots of carbs here and there, which Plan E has.
If you're new to lifting (can't remember), then even Plan A people can gain muscle right off the bat. Lose fat/gain muscle/same time. A benefit of being new. ah. good times...
at 6' and 170, I would say after a few weeks of plan A and you might be looking at 6' and only 160. You may look skinnier to yourself in the mirror, but most people probably won't be able to tell when you have a shirt on. Not trying to steer you either way I'm just giving you some 'low carb' food for thought (couldn't resist sorry).
The "fat metabolism" that Lost Dog is referring to can certainly help you look leaner, but if you take out all the carbs (esp. as somebody who eats a lot of carbs) you may also be restricting your total calorie intake a lot too, which will most probably lead to more weight loss. All I'm trying to say is if you go with plan A, which I think is the better place to start, just make sure you are still eating something and not going hungry because you cant eat carbs.
Food variety is good and going back to real butter, real cheese and real cream in my coffee was a delight.
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When I did go off track and have an apple (day 21) it was astonishingly sweet.
I'm not getting the concept of a diet where butter, cream, and cheese are legal and apples are a cheat??
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Eating out is very easy: think meat and veggies.
That is a great rule of thumb for eating out (unless you are in the South where macaroni and cheese is classified as a vegetable ). Recently I was scanning some articles in a Men's Health magazine while waiting for an oil change on my car. There was an article about the calorie content of many chain restaurant entrees and desserts. One of those things where you know it's really bad, but it's even worse than you imagined... almost like somebody is back in the kitchen trying to cram as many calories into a serving of food as possible. Eating out can really sabotage a diet in a hurry!
Recently I was scanning some articles in a Men's Health magazine while waiting for an oil change on my car. There was an article about the calorie content of many chain restaurant entrees and desserts. One of those things where you know it's really bad, but it's even worse than you imagined... almost like somebody is back in the kitchen trying to cram as many calories into a serving of food as possible. Eating out can really sabotage a diet in a hurry!
It's pretty incredible. I did a paper a while back about cal dense foods and found out that the whopper (maybe double) stacks in a 1k calories! Never believed that a whopper was "good for you" but damn. They make such a big deal out of some things, but the old standby is a BOMB. You can drop the fry's and get a diet soda (or gasp...water) and it's still a BOMB. Holy calories!
I've seen a few menu here and there on this board. But, I was wondering.. does anybody have a weekly menu?
My Daddy has my book. Does anyone know if there's a sample week in there?
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Originally Posted by BamaDave
I'm not getting the concept of a diet where butter, cream, and cheese are legal and apples are a cheat??
If you look at each food individually, it looks like a problem, that's true. An apple isn't bad for you. Neither is cream or butter or cheese, though.
What you're doing is limiting categories of foods with certain properties and characteristics. 1. Cause blood sugar spikes. 2. Aren't as satiating as the other choices. 3. Are calorie dense and nutritionally sparse. 4. Cause cravings for other "bad" foods. Bad is in quotes, because there aren't all the many truly bad foods. They just might be "bad" in the context of this particular diet. And, even then, only at certain times.
So, an apple's not bad. In fact, an apple might be the best example of a "bad" food that absolutely not bad. If you could find a fruit that less "bad" than an apple, I'd be surprised. And if a TNT'r ate an apple a day, it might have little (if any) negative effect.
But, the diet is as simply laid out as possible. No fruit during Plan A (four weeks, minimum). If you said no fruit, except apples, someone would say "What about melon? That has similar properties..." Sure, then melon's cool. "Nice! What about an orange?" Pretty soon, you have a complicated diet again. This diet is simple and most people have had good success without having to count anything. The more complex it becomes, the more you have to start counting. If you can eat anything, then you have to figure out a counting method, whether it's portion size, timing, or calories, or a combination of all of that.
By the way, once you cruise by Plan A, you get fruit again. Once you hit your goals, the book has a section on eating with the TNT methods for life, which includes strategies for eating "bad" food.
Also, if this was a higher carb diet, with bread and taters every day, it wouldn't likely recommend high levels of cream and butter. With a low carb diet, you need high fat and moderate protein levels (not high, as is often assumed).
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Originally Posted by vanessa40
Hi..
I'm starting Plan A today...
Wish me luck
Good luck! Be strong through your first week! Fat is your friend for this week!
OOOPPSS
I messed up already..
I had blueberries..ok...no fruit..not a problem.
I have upped my fats..
I'm using olive oil,natural PB,fish oil pills,cheese..now there is something i really have not been eating lately...cheese..
Feeling ok so far
That's good. Could anybody post a list? I'd appreciate it.
I don't know if this is what you're looking for.
I eat 4-6 times per day.
Breakfast: 3 eggs, cheese, spinach or salsa, maybe brocolli
Snack: cheese or leftover meat and brocolli or cauliflower
Lunch: chicken Caesar salad
Snack: coffee with half and half and some nuts
Dinner: steak with sauteed peppers and onions and a salad
Snack: cheese and raw veggies
Each day is pretty much like this. Of course, the meals are actual put together foods, like omeletes or scrambles for breakfast.
Don't make it too complicated. Look at a dish. Do all the ingredients fit TNT? If not, move along or, skip those ingredients, or replace them with something that does work.
To be honest, many of my meals (other than breakfast and dinner) are just individual ingredients. Meat, veggies, cheese, hardboiled eggs, etc.
In the Healthy Recipes section, there is a thread with low carb foods, too. Somewhere...
Breakfast: 3 eggs, cheese, spinach or salsa, maybe brocolli
Snack: cheese or leftover meat and brocolli or cauliflower
Lunch: chicken Caesar salad
Snack: coffee with half and half and some nuts
Dinner: steak with sauteed peppers and onions and a salad
Snack: cheese and raw veggies
That looks similar to the Paleo Diet, except you can't have cheese or other milk-base dairy on that diet... or salt... UGH!
In the past, I haven't eaten a lot of cheese because I have a huge appetite and cheese is so calorie-dense, but this past Fall I started using Lite String Cheese very regularly. Really easy to throw a few sticks into my lunch bag when I'm flying out the door. A couple of days per week, I have to pack both lunch and dinner for work, so I'm looking for convenience more than I used to in the past.
That looks similar to the Paleo Diet, except you can't have cheese or other milk-base dairy on that diet... or salt... UGH!
In the past, I haven't eaten a lot of cheese because I have a huge appetite and cheese is so calorie-dense, but this past Fall I started using Lite String Cheese very regularly. Really easy to throw a few sticks into my lunch bag when I'm flying out the door. A couple of days per week, I have to pack both lunch and dinner for work, so I'm looking for convenience more than I used to in the past.
True. I read the Paleo Diet for Athletes, which I think makes a lot of good points. But, took it with a grain of salt. pun intended, btw.
I'm only willing to limit the non-paleo foods to a certain extent. I don't think they are inherently bad for us, just because they weren't around back then.
We may not have fully evolved to eat modern foods, but we've obviously adapted to some degree. For instance, not all ethnic groups do well on the Inuit-style diet of high levels of meat and fat. Some groups in the world HAVE adapted to eating more carbs, like rice, on a daily basis. Others, don't do so well.
In North America, we're fond of saying that "everyone's different" with respect to which dietary style works for them. Might not be so many differences in areas of the world that aren't more ethnically limited.
Oh. Cheese. I eat low fat string cheese, too. As much as I need the fat, it's not satisfying to me. I don't get or stay full from fat. I like fat. But, I can eat a lot more cheese if it's lower fat. Calories still matter, after all. We just don't want to have to count them in TNT.
I'm only willing to limit the non-paleo foods to a certain extent. I don't think they are inherently bad for us, just because they weren't around back then.
I never was completely sold on that, either. And I think the Paleo Diet is almost impossible to follow if you need any amount of convenience with regard to your food. Not to mention it's very expensive. And then there's compliance: No salt, no grains, no legumes, no dairy products, no higher fat meats, no CANNED food (so canned salmon, tuna, etc. are out). It may be a safe and healthy way to go, but I couldn't stick with it.
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Calories still matter, after all. We just don't want to have to count them in TNT.
I'm a compulsive calorie "estimator" . I don't officially log or track the stuff that I eat, but I do keep a running tab in my head and am pretty good at guesstimating. I have a hard time trusting myself not to tabulate to some degree, because I have such a large appetite.
I never was completely sold on that, either. And I think the Paleo Diet is almost impossible to follow if you need any amount of convenience with regard to your food. Not to mention it's very expensive. And then there's compliance: No salt, no grains, no legumes, no dairy products, no higher fat meats, no CANNED food (so canned salmon, tuna, etc. are out). It may be a safe and healthy way to go, but I couldn't stick with it.
Of course, who doesn't organ meat? I'm happy to eat tongue, but only in a taco. Of course, the cavemen didn't have tortillas, so screwed again!
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I'm a compulsive calorie "estimator" . I don't officially log or track the stuff that I eat, but I do keep a running tab in my head and am pretty good at guesstimating. I have a hard time trusting myself not to tabulate to some degree, because I have such a large appetite.
Just go buy the book ... it is less than $20!!! And includes a good workout program ...
Seriously, you guys should just buy the book. Sometimes it's nice to know the science of what you are doing. It helps to keep me on track. As a side note check out what I made a couple nights ago on plan A
). Recently I was scanning some articles in a Men's Health magazine while waiting for an oil change on my car. There was an article about the calorie content of many chain restaurant entrees and desserts. One of those things where you know it's really bad, but it's even worse than you imagined... almost like somebody is back in the kitchen trying to cram as many calories into a serving of food as possible. Eating out can really sabotage a diet in a hurry!
. I don't officially log or track the stuff that I eat, but I do keep a running tab in my head and am pretty good at guesstimating. I have a hard time trusting myself not to tabulate to some degree, because I have such a large appetite.
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