Post workout drink

[Hockeyguy]

I have been doing 1 or 2 things after my workouts the last few months. I have not been paying enough attention to my ingredients and I think I may have lost my way in an effort to simplify making a shake.


Typically- 12oz Gatorade and 1 Serving (3 scoops of ON After Max
or
12oz Gatorade with 1.5 scoops of ON 100% Whey

I typically work out at night, somewhere between 6 and 8. Am I putting in to much sugar for that late at night?

[Lost Dog]

Nope. I think you're good!

[Cynic]

All fine. However, if you're not lactose intolerant, you could use milk w/ fruit or choco syrup instead if your gatorade mix is missing anything.

[Hockeyguy]

Milk post workout?

[RacerBill]

Some people use chocolate milk as a post-workout drink. Craig Ballantyne recommends it. If you have doubts, maybe try it and see how you feel. If it upsets your stomach, then switch back to the gatorade + whey.

[Cynic]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy

Milk post workout?

Skim milk. I currently use skim milk, dextrose, maltodextrin (to temper the sweetness of the dextrose) and whey.

When I run out of dex and malt, I'm not restocking. I'll rely solely on skim milk, fruit and/or oats and hershey's choco syrup.

I'm starting to be less anal about where the sugar is coming from. It's the timing that matters most.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy

Milk post workout?

Why not? What do you think protein powder is made from?

[Ogedei]

Milk? Screw it. Chocolate Milk has all the protein and twice the carbs!

[Trevor M.]

Originally Posted by Jason B

Why not? What do you think protein powder is made from?

Eggs,hemp,peas,rice,soy...Oh and their is whey and casein which are the ones your refeering to. It seems as if your suggesting all protein powders come from these two items.

I typically work out at night, somewhere between 6 and 8. Am I putting in to much sugar for that late at night?

The only real problem I see would be if you are some type of endurance and/or do some type of heavy/sustained manual labor activity the next day, particularly in the AM. Given the body's time for complete or near complete glycogen replacement, this would place you in a poor situation the following day for such activities.

Milk is likely fine for people who drink it that are not lactose intolerant and who are not allergic to it. Although, milk generally has a low GI rating meaning its not quite optimal unless paired with one for a PWO.

[raymond3]

Ive been using Waxy Maize...supposed to be one of the best carbs for post workout and pretty cheap.

[Frank.S]

Originally Posted by raymond3

Ive been using Waxy Maize...supposed to be one of the best carbs for post workout and pretty cheap.

If you look at the one study on it, which was made by the people who sell the stuff.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Originally Posted by Trevor M.

Milk is likely fine for people who drink it that are not lactose intolerant and who are not allergic to it. Although, milk generally has a low GI rating meaning its not quite optimal unless paired with one for a PWO.

You don't need High GI carbs post-workout. I'm pretty sure that Alan Aragon has written on this in the past.

[Trevor M.]

Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid

You don't need High GI carbs post-workout. I'm pretty sure that Alan Aragon has written on this in the past.

Who said you did? Notice the word "Optimal", Meaning it may be considered "best", not, its the only way it should be done.

So...he wrote on it...I don't see your point.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Originally Posted by Trevor M.

Who said you did? Notice the word "Optimal", Meaning it may be considered "best", not, its the only way it should be done.

So...he wrote on it...I don't see your point.

My "point" is that high Gi may not even be more optimal than just a regular meal. I doubt that high gi even makes a difference if you ate before you worked out. At least for me, as long as I eat afterwards, it's fine.

It just bugs me to see supplement companies ripping people off by selling protein powder+sugar and claiming that it will make people huge(not saying this is you.)

[Trevor M.]

Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid

My "point" is that high Gi may not even be more optimal than just a regular meal. I doubt that high gi even makes a difference if you ate before you worked out. At least for me, as long as I eat afterwards, it's fine.

It just bugs me to see supplement companies ripping people off by selling protein powder+sugar and claiming that it will make people huge(not saying this is you.)

I agree fully with your statement about supplement companies. Although, this is not the case. However, I couldn't care less though what supplement companies state. Its the consumers fault if they buy into something that is wrong/false and/or a waste of cash.

You mention high gi prior to working out, well that's still inconclusive. Although, to play on the "safe" side I would not intentionally ingest a high gi carb (alone) within about 60 minutes before a workout. Certain studies suggest it to have negative impact on the workout, among other things.

I have never heard of the use of a post workout drink containing a fast digesting carbohydrate and protein be used under the pretenses that it would make someone "huge". If ones going to use a CHO/PRO mixture after, then they should do it for the suggested "benefits" that have been shown in scientific studies, not what it says on the bottle of some product.

[raymond3]

Originally Posted by Frank.S

If you look at the one study on it, which was made by the people who sell the stuff.

Actually is praised quite a bit on a few different boards.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Originally Posted by Trevor M.

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You mention high gi prior to working out, well that's still inconclusive. Although, to play on the "safe" side I would not intentionally ingest a high gi carb (alone) within about 60 minutes before a workout. Certain studies suggest it to have negative impact on the workout, among other things.

I didn't mean to say that you should eat High GI foods pre-workout, I meant to say that as long as someone eats something before they lift, they won't need a high-GI shake right after.

and re the supp companies, yes, buyer beware also, but the whole industry just puts me off.

[Frank.S]

Originally Posted by raymond3

Actually is praised quite a bit on a few different boards.

I know, actually I got suckerd into buying some once.. Guess what, beta-7 is hyped everywhere and there is no proof to it working, so is l-glutamine.. the list goes on.

I had a thread on this a while ago.. I regard alan a's opinion pretty highly so I guess that may have some swing to my decisions.

Originally Posted by Alan Aragon

Reposted quote of mine:

Ah, the hope & promise (AND PRICE) of the Swedish high-molecular mass waxy maize derivative called Vitargo. As far as I know, this product has one single solitary study backing it up:

Entrez PubMed

Notice in the above abstract that a whopping 300g of micronutrient-free Vitargo versus 300g obviously micronutrient-free glucose/glucose polymers was used! The Vitargo had about a 19% faster rate of glycogen resynthesis. Yes, that's a significant difference, but there remains a huge question mark about the real world applicability of the study design. Keep in mind this trial was carried out after glycogen depletion, & as I mentioned earlier, relative glycodepletion will vary among bodybuilding protocols. Last but not least: 300 effin' grams of carbohydrate? Can we get just a little closer to what typical non-triathlete trainees would ingest in the 4 hour period postexercise?

I already mentioned that this stuff is expensive for what it actually is. For me personally, I'll literally & figuratively stomach the higher osmolality of other carb sources. If you have money to burn, and don't mind staking your finances on a single study whose reults haven't been replicated, & whose solitary research was more than likely funded by the Swedish manufacturer of Vitargo, then be my guest.

If most people put 10% of the effort into their daily nutrition that they do into their PWO nutrition, they would make far more gains in the gym.

Now, I do use some sort of shake when im in a pinch for a meal, or when weight training 2x per day (but this is solely because its easy to get cals/protien like this). IMO, A PWO sugar/protien shake wont have any negitives most likey for the original poster here. But, in no means is it better then a meal.