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Old 05-16-2007, 06:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy it doesn't work anymore? (creatine)

So I'm taking creatine for the second time. Same brand, same type (monohydrate) and somehow the creatine doesn't have the effects it had last time. If I were to stop taking it, I probably wouldn't see the difference.
How come it doesn't work anymore?
My diet is the same, so is my workout template (different exercises though).
I just don't get it

Oh yeah btw, the company did make the powder finer, so with smaller individual particals.
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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YOU are different than the last time you took it. There could be any number of things going on with your training that are different (internal\external) than before. It's possible that you attributed gains to creatine before that weren't.

Give it a week or 4 and see what happens, unless you already have, then just decide if you want to keep taking it or not.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I've always been a big fan of supplement brand rotation, sometimes going off supplement totally.

I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that it doesn't work anymore. Is it a lack of endurance, feeling of sluggishness or lack of strength etc. What have you measured against previously in order to draw the conclusion that it doesn't work now? I think you need to slowly eliminate possible factors in your life that may have caused it, example: stress at work or school, staleness in your training routine.

Since you said that you probably would not feel the difference if you stopped taking it, this may be a good place to start.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've tried Creatine twice (2 different periods) for several months each time. It does absolutley nothing noticeable for me. Perhaps, like a multi vitamin or fish oil, it may have been doing something unnoticeable. I do take both of those, but after finishing my last canaster of Creatine about a year ago, I haven't bought any since.
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Old 05-16-2007, 01:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that it doesn't work anymore. Is it a lack of endurance, feeling of sluggishness or lack of strength etc. What have you measured against previously in order to draw the conclusion that it doesn't work now? I think you need to slowly eliminate possible factors in your life that may have caused it, example: stress at work or school, staleness in your training routine.
Well, the second week I took creatine, my strength went up more then usual. Especially in my upper body. For example, Before the creatine I took me at least 2 weeks to get 5lbs more on the weight used. With the creatine it suddenly took me only 1 week. Result: I gained 44lbs on my bench in a 2-3 months.
After the creatine that came to a stop.

And I've seen rapid strength increases in most exercises.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Are you sure the strength gains weren't solely from training differently?

I've had success with creatine in the past, but have recently been off of it for about a year. I was taking Biotest's Micronized Creatine.

I really haven't noticed much of a change. It'll be interesting to see what happens if I decide to go back on it. I'd still rather spend my dough on BCAA's, fish oil, a greens formula, and even some digestive enzymes.
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Well, the second week I took creatine, my strength went up more then usual. Especially in my upper body. For example, Before the creatine I took me at least 2 weeks to get 5lbs more on the weight used. With the creatine it suddenly took me only 1 week. Result: I gained 44lbs on my bench in a 2-3 months.
After the creatine that came to a stop.

And I've seen rapid strength increases in most exercises.
I think you might already have the answer in your own reply. I speculate that rapid strength gains don't last forever, whether you are on creatine or not. Obviously since it has worked for you in the past, I do not think that you are creatine non-responsive, if your intake was based on the old loading of 5 servings a day, your body may already be saturated with creatine so that taking more of it won't give you a noticeable advantage.

Just to throw it out in the open here, if you've already been training for a while, you may be reaching the upper end of your strength limits for your bodyweight, so naturally strength gains won't come as fast.
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Old 05-17-2007, 03:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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It never worked for me, at least in a noticeable way. Maybe I noticed some water retention the first time I used it, not more. I used monohidrate two times (a commercial brand and in bulk) and creapure another one.
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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if your intake was based on the old loading of 5 servings a day, your body may already be saturated with creatine so that taking more of it won't give you a noticeable advantage.
So what are you saying?
That I have to wait untill I have les creatine in my body to see rapid strength increases again?
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