Good shake before gym first thing in the morning?

[goldwave84]

Any good recipes for me? Something that will help me with energy and keep me going for a full hour?

Ash

[BFG]

Steal cut oats, semi skimmed milk and apples and cinamon

Thought you were on a weightloss mission anyway???? If so you'll be wanting all the solids you can muster

[gobbla]

coffee+milk+spoonful of sugar

[Cynic]

I like the coffee option myself, though I use 1/2 and 1/2, milk is better for carbs.

You might also consider tea, green tea, with honey.

[goldwave84]

Hey BFG, yea I am. I don't understand what you mean by solids? I do not think I can lift at full potential if I lift on an empty stomach.

[Cynic]

Originally Posted by goldwave84

Hey BFG, yea I am. I don't understand what you mean by solids?

The thermic effect. Solid matter food requires more calories to digest. Certain macro nutrients using more than others. Protein has the highest, so a good steak will use a lot of calories to digest, but it will still contribute more than it costs.

[goldwave84]

What a meal plan looks like for me

Friday

Pre-workout drink
[Gym]
Post-workout: Fruit & simple shake
Breakfast: Spinach & cheese omelet
Snack: 2 great tastes
Lunch: Tuna
Mediterrn salad
Snack: 2 great tastes
Post workout: Protein shake
Dinner: Grilled Salmon

That's 5 shakes in total. Way too much. Any small simple solid foods you can recomend?

[Lost Dog]

Solid foods are usually satisfying for a longer period of time. The TEF for solid foods is likely higher, too.

But, if shakes are satifying and filling for you, then have 6 shakes a day.

[BFG]

Originally Posted by Cynic

The thermic effect. Solid matter food requires more calories to digest. Certain macro nutrients using more than others. Protein has the highest, so a good steak will use a lot of calories to digest, but it will still contribute more than it costs.

sod that for a laugh I was thinking I want something still digesting and left in the tank after the workout or I will just consume more calories

[BFG]

whats that macro split? I bet thats way protein high and carb low and whats the calorie total?

[jijin]

yogurt, protein powder, nuts/flaxseed and berries/banana with some greens+ is my usual pre-WO meal.

You might want to try sipping half to a full shake during your workout.

BFG, wouldn't what he eats the rest of the day matter more than the food he takes around the workout window?

Aren't whole foods made into shakes considered "solid"? I'm confused

[goldwave84]

Correct me if i am wrong, but you do not want to put flax seed into yr pre workout drink as it supresses insulin production?

[Lost Dog]

Ash,

Not that I don't think you should ask questions here, but keep in mind that we're all over the place. Low fat, low carb, no fat before or after a workout, eat whatever, whenever, etc. There are plenty of PN users here who can answer PN and TMA questions, but most of the people here are just plain healthy eaters.

I know you're doing The Metabolism Advantage, so make it clear that that's the plan you are following. Otherwise, you'll get conficting advice.

All the advice has been good, so far, but you'll notice that they don't exactly work together, do they? Or, fit TMA.

I do find it funny that a good amount of the advice over on the Precision Nutrition forums is from people who obviously haven't read the books...