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Ever since ive given my dietary fats a pretty good boost (150ish grams per day (60/10/30).. low carb experiment right now). Ive gotten pimples like mad. Ive never really gotten any, ever. Now im washing my face constantly throughout the day and having multiple showers, still nothing. My shoulders are even getting pretty bad.
The only thing I can like it to that makes sense to me is increased fat intake, does anyone else get this?
Hmmm. . . what is weird is that I've experienced almost the opposite effect. Thinking back my skin has been almost flawless since adding ZMA and high doses of fish oil to my diet regardless of fat intake.
Ever since ive given my dietary fats a pretty good boost (150ish grams per day (60/10/30).. low carb experiment right now). Ive gotten pimples like mad. Ive never really gotten any, ever. Now im washing my face constantly throughout the day and having multiple showers, still nothing. My shoulders are even getting pretty bad.
The only thing I can like it to that makes sense to me is increased fat intake, does anyone else get this?
Dietary fat doesn't equate to increased oil production/acne in our (dermatology) literature... usually it's due to several coinciding factors including:
1. Androgen excess (relative)--this is why teenagers and women with high androgen states such as polycystic ovarian syndrome have it--it triggers excess sebum (oil) production among other things
2. failure to shed old skin cells normally; they are "sticky" and block the follicular opening. Once that happens, the bacteria that live deep (can't scrub 'em out) proliferate, since they looooove to party in an anaerobic environment. Once they begin to multiply, the body's innate immune system is drawn to the area by the breakdown products from the fatty acids the bacteria produce from ingesting all that sebum that is now backed up in there (due to the follicular plug).
How old are you, Frank?
Best treatment for acne: retinoid (retin A or similar; an over the counter product contains retinol, not as effective) to unplug the sticky skin cells
for inflammatory acne with red bumps/pustules/cysts/nodules: oral tetracycline to address the bacterial overgrowth and to treat the deep inflammatory response (the tetracyclines have an antiinflammatory effect; this is the real reason we think they work, as p. acnes bacteria can be resistant to the med and the acne will still respond to this therapy)
for back/chest acne: benzoyl peroxide wash 8-10% daily; leave it on for a few minutes and then wash off.
You shouldn't wash your face more than 2-3 times/day as a rule; when you strip surface oil your skin responds by producing more.
It takes 6-8 weeks to see a change in the skin. I hope this helps!
PS--there may be a dietary role in fats in promoting a more androgenic milieu in the body--that's not in my sphere of knowledge so I can't comment.
Well, im 19, but ive never really had any pimples since I was about 13.
I think acne is much worse then what I have, I probally have about 4 on my face.. But the thing is, i havnt had any in years and I change my diet and get 4.
Ill be taking the tips given here for sure, they are damn anoying.
You may want to check out the website for The Paleo Diet. I believe there are some articles there about modern diet and possible contributions to acne. I haven't read them, but I believe the author of this diet book, Loren Cordain, makes a case that following a more "paleo" diet will improve skin conditions.
whenever i increase the amt of pb that i eat, my face breaks out. It seems PB only does it to me. If i replace the PB with almond butter, i dont get the breakouts.
whenever i increase the amt of pb that i eat, my face breaks out. It seems PB only does it to me. If i replace the PB with almond butter, i dont get the breakouts.
Im not a teenager.
A dermatologist recommended avoiding peanuts, peanut butter and dairy. I understood the dairy because of the hormones in the products, but I never quite figured out the peanut connection.
Mind you, this was back in the 80s so the research may support different conclusions now.
__________________ The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same. -- Carlos Castaneda
Could it be a possible allergic reaction to peanuts, Bill? I thought I'd seen somewhere that a very large percentage of the population is allergic to peanuts and such.
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Could it be a possible allergic reaction to peanuts, Bill? I thought I'd seen somewhere that a very large percentage of the population is allergic to peanuts and such.
I have been eating alot of nuts lately.
I dont know about allergys, I sure hope not! I eat 1/4 of my daily cals on peanuts often, really cheap.
Could it be a possible allergic reaction to peanuts, Bill? I thought I'd seen somewhere that a very large percentage of the population is allergic to peanuts and such.
You're right, peanuts are a common allergen. How common is acne as an allergic reaction? Usually I'd expect to see hives.
__________________ The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same. -- Carlos Castaneda
Yeah usually hives would be the biggest sign - but you never know, each person's body is different. It may not be an allergy, per se, but some weird reaction that is body is having to the large amount of peanuts.
__________________ If your dog is fat, you aren't getting enough exercise. -Unknown
Could indeed be something you're responding (semi)allergic to. I got bad pimples when eating low-quality chocolate in an effort to up calories in a cheap way while cycle-touring in Norway. Cheap peanut butter in higher quantities gave allergy reactions.
Common denominator: soy lecithin. Avoid it like the plague since then and have cut back on peanuts too, especially 'fresh' peanuts that tend to get moldy.
You're right, peanuts are a common allergen. How common is acne as an allergic reaction? Usually I'd expect to see hives.
Very uncommon, Bill. However, this is a skewed population in that a LOT of PB is ingested in fitness types vs non, so I would suspect that if there IS some peanut allergy present it may manifest in a slightly different way.
I would switch to almonds and almond butter and see if that improves things--give it a few weeks to make the call, it takes time for the skin to respond and visibly show it.
Eating peanuts/nuts/seeds or fruit when even slightly moldy give me the runs. Soy lecithin: insane itching when I respond to it immediately.
It was the chocolate (w soy lecithin) that gave the pimples. Could very well be other impurities. A very often-heard relation is the one between acne and pork meat. Our (my partner & me) suspicion is that this is related to the extreme sensitivity of pigs to stress and hence susceptibility to diseases, which leads to chronic use of antibiotics in pig farming. Some people may be more susceptible to trace amounts of antibiotics than others. Just like the molds.
I'm a firm believer in the connection between disrupting gut health with these traces of molds/antibiotics and poor skin health & allergy reactions.
Wonder what your take on it is here.. anyone who's got Cordain's acne book? Would love to see what he'd said without actually buying that book.
Wonder what your take on it is here.. anyone who's got Cordain's acne book? Would love to see what he'd said without actually buying that book.
You may want to read through some of his scientific articles posted on his website. Some of those deal with acne. I'm not sure what non-Paleo foods he blames for acne issues, but he does rail against legumes in general... so peanuts and soy could be suspect. He says legumes are not a natural human food, since we can't eat them raw... and they contain nasty stuff in them that do bad things to our bodies.
Guys, just so you all know... the entire bulk of dermatology literature (and there is a TON of it, let me tell you) does NOT support the role of a specific food playing a causal role in acne. I'm not saying it's not possible, but ANECDOTAL evidence is not the same thing as randomized, double-blinded clinical trials/studies. If you as an individual do better with the avoidance of certain foods, more power to you... but this is not a one-size-fits-all issue.
And for the record? Four pimples is not acne
It's a breakout.
Take it FWIW. I am pretty current on this topic, ya know
__________________ The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same. -- Carlos Castaneda
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