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Sorry for the dumbass post but ....
My trainer put me on a mixture of 1 scoop Super Charge 250 (Gaspari Nutrition), 1 scoop of Whey Protein Isolate, and 500ml of Carbo Force energy drink(ABB) about 1/2 hour prior to training. Is there really any reason for me to do this drink? He says it will help with my training, but I seem to just gain water weight and don't really know that it makes a difference other than making me feel fat However if it will benefit my training I can overlook feeling like a chunky monkey! Thoughts?
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Carbo Force is about 440 cals. Super charge is about 32. Those are all carbs. I don't know how much protein is there but 1 scoop is usually 20-23 grams (so about another 80 - 95 cals).
What's his reasoning for this "helping your training"? I've seen a lot of threads that say NO2 is not worth it, except to the guys selling it.
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Carbo Force is about 440 cals. Super charge is about 32. Those are all carbs. I don't know how much protein is there but 1 scoop is usually 20-23 grams (so about another 80 - 95 cals).
What's his reasoning for this "helping your training"? I've seen a lot of threads that say NO2 is not worth it, except to the guys selling it.
I think his reasoning is the energy boost and to up my lifts.
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"My darling," she said at last, "are you sure you don't mind being a mouse for the rest of your life?"
"I don't mind at all," I said. "It doesn't matter who you are or what you look like so long as somebody loves you."
Like Bob said. It's just too much. Most people don't have that many carbs in the pre AND pwo drink together. Assuming you went with something like Surge, you'd get about 50g C and 25g P. But, most of the time, people take 1/2 of that before and half after a workout. That's 350 calories.
Is this guy a real trainer or just some guy at the gym? Does he tell you to do more situps and crunches to shed belly fat (not you, specifically, of course)?
Like Bob said. It's just too much. Most people don't have that many carbs in the pre AND pwo drink together. Assuming you went with something like Surge, you'd get about 50g C and 25g P. But, most of the time, people take 1/2 of that before and half after a workout. That's 350 calories.
Is this guy a real trainer or just some guy at the gym? Does he tell you to do more situps and crunches to shed belly fat (not you, specifically, of course)?
That's a lot of money to spend, too.
He is a real trainer. He actually tells me not to do so much ab work and do more big lifts. I kinda feel wired when I drink it so I only do it when I know I will be training with him.I think part of his reasoning is that he doesn't think I eat enough. So its ok to drop the NO2. I was only doing a protein shake that I was splitting up before and after. Thanks guys.
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"My darling," she said at last, "are you sure you don't mind being a mouse for the rest of your life?"
"I don't mind at all," I said. "It doesn't matter who you are or what you look like so long as somebody loves you."
I think his reasoning is the energy boost and to up my lifts.
OK, now this is just me, but my pre/during workout drink is about 210 cals (2 scoops gatorade (30 gms C) and 1 scoop whey (23gms P, 2 gms C)). I don't have any lack of energy during the workout from this. After workout I will put away about 400 cals from breakfast (mostly protein there). I think the after workout window is more important.
But then again I would ask him for his reasoning behind it. And get all the details as to why. And then figure out if this fits in with your goals.
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I'm about 190 (that's pounds...). I have one drink before/during the workout and an equal drink after. They each total about the same as Bob's. But, I typically don't eat for two hours before the gym, then I'm working out for an hour and a half and then drink the pwo drink. Then I eat food about an hour after the 2nd drink.
You don't eat enough for what? To lose fat? To gain muscle? What's the goal.
50g of extra sugar in one sitting isn't really the way to combat you not eating enough.
I'm about 190 (that's pounds...). I have one drink before/during the workout and an equal drink after. They each total about the same as Bob's. But, I typically don't eat for two hours before the gym, then I'm working out for an hour and a half and then drink the pwo drink. Then I eat food about an hour after the 2nd drink.
You don't eat enough for what? To lose fat? To gain muscle? What's the goal.
50g of extra sugar in one sitting isn't really the way to combat you not eating enough.
See what I get for doing what I'm told! 50g of sugar!! Holy crap. My goals are mostly strength and strength endurance. Mind you I don't want to get fat either, but I'm more concerned with getting my lifts up to where they were prior to my accident. Now I know I need to do something about my shoulders ( beef them up a little) just to visually be more symmetrical. I'm not totally happy with how I look but that has to wait til a later date. Top priority is being strong enough to do my job with ease and without injury.
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"My darling," she said at last, "are you sure you don't mind being a mouse for the rest of your life?"
"I don't mind at all," I said. "It doesn't matter who you are or what you look like so long as somebody loves you."
100g of sugar/sugar-like substances (malto, for instance). Just 50g of it I would consider "extra."
I'd say 50g of carbs and 25g of protein is reasonable for the whole workout period. Slice it up as pre, during, or post, however you like.
Sounds like he means well, but it's overkill. He may be suggesting this because those products are handy. A lot of clubs sell those bottles of sugar, er carbs...
100g of sugar/sugar-like substances (malto, for instance). Just 50g of it I would consider "extra."
I'd say 50g of carbs and 25g of protein is reasonable for the whole workout period. Slice it up as pre, during, or post, however you like.
Sounds like he means well, but it's overkill. He may be suggesting this because those products are handy. A lot of clubs sell those bottles of sugar, er carbs...
Thanks Roland. I think I will go back to my protein shakes that I was doing before. I think I lift better when I am not all wired up on the carbs.
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"My darling," she said at last, "are you sure you don't mind being a mouse for the rest of your life?"
"I don't mind at all," I said. "It doesn't matter who you are or what you look like so long as somebody loves you."
Is there any reason to take NO2?
However if it will benefit my training I can overlook feeling like a chunky monkey! Thoughts?
See what I get for doing what I'm told! 50g of sugar!! Holy crap. My goals are mostly strength and strength endurance. Mind you I don't want to get fat either, but I'm more concerned with getting my lifts up to where they were prior to my accident. Now I know I need to do something about my shoulders ( beef them up a little) just to visually be more symmetrical. I'm not totally happy with how I look but that has to wait til a later date. Top priority is being strong enough to do my job with ease and without injury.
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