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I started a similar thread concerning how to overcome cravings and this thread is a "shoot off".
Some people reach their goals and some don't. Even if they try equally hard. What is the difference between the two groups? What does "Group A" have that "Group B" doesn't? (Other than OCD! ) How can Group B'ers become Group A'ers? Is there some kind of Jedi mind trick I can learn to always say no to food I know is keeping me from my goal?
__________________ Defeat is not defeat unless accepted as a reality-in your own mind. - Bruce Lee
1)don't keep bad food in your house.
2)the less junk food you eat, the less you want to eat it. I know this sounds weird, but if you eat healthy for a while, you'll have no desire for bad foods.
3)this one is the most effective: Just suck it up and don't eat it.
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"Focus on making the 5 lifts stronger and getting enough food. There will be plenty of time to worry about glycemic indexes, PERs, and Bulgarian Split squats later. Much later."-Mark Rippetoe
3)this one is the most effective: Just suck it up and don't eat it.
= try harder.
Seriously. When it comes to reaching those goals, providing they are possible and reasonable, in the fitness game the only person you have to blame for failure is you.
You decide not to go to the gym.
You decide to eat the pizza.
In your career you can decide to take this course and work X hard, but at the end of the day, top of the totem pole guy can axe decide to axe you.
If you want to be a type Aer make the decision to be one.
No tricks.
No illusions.
Just Do It.
Og.
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
A couple of thoughts. First, you need to have a plan, and the more specific it gets the more likely you are to follow it. When I plan out my meals, write down a menu, etc., then I tend to follow my plan. I also find that being realistic helps. There is a finite set of meals that most people who keep in reasonable shape eat. I try to stick with those meals that I really enjoy: for instance a lean steak with onions and peppers sauteed in olive oil with some steamed kale on the side with maybe a glass of red wine. That's as good as a cheat meal to me but it works with my goals. Be wary of unrealistic guidelines, come up with something workable for you and then refine it using the scale and mirror and how you feel as feedback.
The second thought is that we constantly trade one good for another. It's fairly easy to motivate yourself to get down to a healthy weight and normal range BMI if you are overfat. From there you have to give up a lot more to get to a six-pack level if you are genetically average. If you are honest with yourself, maybe those cheat meals mean more to you than getting ripped.
I remember back when I was on my most successful, long run of dietary success. What did I do then? I told myself that the hunger festering within was a sign that I was losing fat. I reveled in it. I used it, like a monk on a fast might use his hunger to bring light to his closeness to God (or to whatever he wants to be close to, depending on the type of monk he is).
I know that they say your not supposed to feel hungry when you're dieting, but I am always hungry anyway (Yes, no matter how much I eat, I'm still hungry). Might has well have the hunger work for me, right?
I thought of this last night. I was hungry, so I made some tea and watched a movie and went to bed. All the time hungry. I kept reminding myself that if I ate something, I'd still be hungry. I'd be hungry and fat, though. Instead, I woke up, still hungry, but slightly less fat.
I also find that quite often, drinking the tea has the effect of curbing my appetite.
Of course as I speak....at home is giant bag of ju jubes and jelly beans for the ginger bread house....1/2 a container of eggnog, 1/2 a fruit cake, a box of truffles and my mom has sent another fruit cake in with the xmas packages....
And it's what? Dec 5th. 30 more days of hell.
Og.
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
Not me. Just something to do. Like smokers need something to do with their hands.
What happened to the other half, Og? shame...
I don't want to talk about it...that or the jelly beans...or fruit cake....
Og.
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
1)don't keep bad food in your house.
2)the less junk food you eat, the less you want to eat it. I know this sounds weird, but if you eat healthy for a while, you'll have no desire for bad foods.
3)this one is the most effective: Just suck it up and don't eat it.
In my opinion - these are your best options. But I have a couple more to add. Cravings may be an indication of something you are lacking in your diet, so you may want to take a look at what you are craving and do a little research. If you are craving something badly - eat it! Just don't eat a lot of it. Take a bite and get rid of the craving. One thing that works well for me is to have a tall glass of milk or water, it seems to fill my stomach or at least trick my brain.
I agree with Ogedei that sometimes a tea or coffee can curb hunger for a while. Not sure where it fits into your plan, but I find that lower carb eating where I cut out all the starches brings my hunger level way down. I can skip meals or draw out the time between them if needed. I have heard other people say this, so I think it is fairly common for LC plans. On the other hand, if I 'cheat' and have cookies or something I get some wicked cravings soon afterwards.
I just don't have this luxury. My significant other insists on keeping loads of crap in the house. After all, she lives on the stuff.
If you are in this same situation (living with someone who shops) you know what a temptation that stuff is ALL the time.
So number 1 for me is - I have to keep plenty of healthy alternatives in the house - fruit, vegis, etc, - otherwise, I will give in to the cravings.
Number 2 is - Food choices should be routine. Do your best to make a routine of eating the same foods most of the time. That doesn't mean they taste the same..spices..
I always eat the same exact thing for breakfast every morning. Takes the guess work out. I never set around thinking "what do I want?"
I can identify with what LD said about viewing your hunger as success. This is what we are intending to do, right? LOL I'm always hungry when I'm at even a slight calorie deficit too.
I like to think of what you HAVE to eat instead of what you're not supposed to eat. Each day I am supposed to eat veggies at each of my three later meals: lunch, afternoon snack, and dinner. I must eat veggies so choose that item first and choose the lean protein choice to go with it. I must take my fish oil and other supps. I must have my starchy carb right after lifting. If I focus on what I must eat, then there's less room to even think about what I'm not going to be getting.
Eat on time.
Plan ahead and cook ahead. If it's right there and ready it will be much easier to make the right choice.
I can identify with what LD said about viewing your hunger as success. This is what we are intending to do, right? LOL I'm always hungry when I'm at even a slight calorie deficit too.
I like to think of what you HAVE to eat instead of what you're not supposed to eat. Each day I am supposed to eat veggies at each of my three later meals: lunch, afternoon snack, and dinner. I must eat veggies so choose that item first and choose the lean protein choice to go with it. I must take my fish oil and other supps. I must have my starchy carb right after lifting. If I focus on what I must eat, then there's less room to even think about what I'm not going to be getting.
You know, I've never really thought of it this way. You're right. This is much better advice than "suck it up, you wuss!" Thanx, Lisa!
__________________ Defeat is not defeat unless accepted as a reality-in your own mind. - Bruce Lee
I used to be like LD, always hungry no matter what (calories, macros, timing). I haven't been hungry (apart from after workouts) for months ever since I started using vizualizations, affirmations and other mental techniques to help me with my goals. It's more effortless now. No discomfort associated with not eating something or having to do that extra set. We've discussed NLP and other techniques on the mind and body forum.
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) How can Group B'ers become Group A'ers? Is there some kind of Jedi mind trick I can learn to always say no to food I know is keeping me from my goal?
My significant other insists on keeping loads of crap in the house. After all, she lives on the stuff.
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