Pre/Post Workout Nutrition while doing a controlled carb diet

[djhaycock]

I've been wondering this past week about the subject of this thread.

My goal is to keep my insulin level very low over the next several weeks so as to mobilize more of my fat stores to be used and melted away.

So, after reading an article by Waterbury I am still unsure as to whether or not I should be ingesting HIGH GI Carbs before/during/after workout sessions.

Can someone please help me with this dilemma?

Thanks.

[Lost Dog]

Take a listen to the Alwyn Cosgrove edition of MaxOutRadio.com Mike and Alwyn discuss this, at length.

Although, I'll also just tell you. You should take your workout drinks. No effect on fat loss. AC says so in the interview.

Also, Chris Shugart and the legion of people doing the V-Diet say so. Go for it.

It will make your workout better, so that's a big plus, too.

[andrew_plamondon]

There's the Cut Diet which tries to minimize carbs all the time and they suggest BCAAs during/post-workout. But :
1) As said earlier, carbs around the workout don't really affect fat-burning as it has been shown in studies.
2) Some amino acids CAN induce an insulin response (but glucagon, it's antagonist, at the same time) and BCAAs are highly insuligenic.

[djhaycock]

Thanks for all the replies.

Any recommendations on what I should try? Any good mixes at proteinfactory?

I'm thinking of trying Biotest's SURGE.

[andrew_plamondon]

You can get Surge... but you can just make sure you get a 2:1 carb:protein ratio instead and it'll be much cheaper. Oats and whey, some kind of whole-bread sandwich with meat, etc.

Suggested reading on cardio and carb consumption : http://www.alanaragon.com/myths-unde...ed-cardio.html

[Canadian_Bacon]

I have gone back and forth between using surge (or its equivelent) and just eating a starching meal afterwards like oats or a pita.

Really I have found no difference, i perfer the solid meal as well as it is more satisfying(though harder to transfer around and more expensive).

I think the more volume in your training the more you should probably go for something surge-like instead of a whole food meal.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Originally Posted by Canadian_Bacon

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Really I have found no difference, i perfer the solid meal as well as it is more satisfying(though harder to transfer around and more expensive).

I agree. I've tried Homemade Surge, and after I drink it i get extremly hungry, due to it's very high GI. You may want to try somethiung more satisfying and filling, like oatmeal or fruit w. whey.

[andrew_plamondon]

Originally Posted by Canadian_Bacon

I have gone back and forth between using surge (or its equivelent) and just eating a starching meal afterwards like oats or a pita.

Really I have found no difference, i perfer the solid meal as well as it is more satisfying(though harder to transfer around and more expensive).

I think the more volume in your training the more you should probably go for something surge-like instead of a whole food meal.

It's probably a better idea to get a pre-workout meal/shake instead to have some nutrients flowing already instead of trying to get the most you can get in a short time.