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Old 08-08-2006, 01:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Confused.

Enova is preferentially burnt off easier than other oils and not as likely to be stored as fat.

Enova is high in soybean oil, which we should all avoid because of the preponderance of Omega-6s in it.

I stragically eat my fats to keep my hormones in check, get my inflammation levels down, etc.

I don't know that I care to eat an oil that is "preferentially" burned off, do I?

Since it's burned off, how do the Omega-6s effect 3:6 ratios?

My head spins and I don't know how to make all of this work together.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Confused.

Enova is preferentially burnt off easier than other oils and not as likely to be stored as fat.

Enova is high in soybean oil, which we should all avoid because of the preponderance of Omega-6s in it.

I stragically eat my fats to keep my hormones in check, get my inflammation levels down, etc.

I don't know that I care to eat an oil that is "preferentially" burned off, do I?

Since it's burned off, how do the Omega-6s effect 3:6 ratios?

My head spins and I don't know how to make all of this work together.
LD,

DO a pubmead search for DAG (or diacylglycerol) oil to learn more about ENOVA. Also, Lonnie Lowery has written about this on t-nation at some point.

I have some papers on DAG at home, but I'm not at home right now, so I can't reference them. When I get back, I'll fill you in on what is written.

Dr Volek and I actually were throwing around the idea of doing a ketogenic study with Enova oil, so perhaps in a year or two, they'll be some new research in this area.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'll check it out.

This one has confused me, lately. If you're in a deficit, are you really storing much fat, anyway.

Enova seems better for the general population, who just eats and doesn't want to put on more weight.

I know it's not 100% transferable, but when something is preferentially burned, seems like something else would be stored, if your bod was ready to store something.
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Actually, DAG oil is not really preferentially burned, it's just that because it only has two fatty acids on the glycerol rather than three like most fats (i.e. TRIglycerides), when you eat it, your body has to add the other fatty acid to make it a complete triglyceride. So, it costs more energy for your body to process a DAG than a regular fat.

Once it's a regular fat though.. I'm not sure if it doesn't store in the fat cells... it just may be that because it costs more energy for you to process it, it puts your body in a slight energy deficit unless you're eating too many calories anyhow.

Really, it's sort of another gimmic for food manufacturers to make money off our lazy, fat, uneducated society. People eat too much food to begin with, so if they just replace Enova for other oils, it's not going to make a hoo-ha of a difference; they're still going to be unhealthy and fat. (wow, I'm such a bitch eh?)

But, for those that are more aware of our food choices, I think Enova is an excellent addition to our diets.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You're not a bitch. They ARE fat!

Now, get out of Canada and do that next fitcast!
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Thanks much for the info, Cassandra. I've read a little bit about Enova, and you've helped clarify things.
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That is good stuff. Thanks once again, Cass.
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Enova is still a manufactured fat. If you go back fifty years, the only fat source we had was lard (pure saturated), and amazingly, very little obesity, very little heart disease. So what does that tell you? Man made oils are highly suspect. I have used Enova oil in the past, but I am more inclined to use either butter or olive oil in my cooking now.

I am about to jump on the updated diet that Adam and Dr Volek have been working on, and I will probably blog the experience, so expect to see some serious bodyfat disappear from my currently fat ass!
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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updated diet? What's it called?

Adam's Diet Reloaded
Adam's Diet II
Jeff's Diet
The 8 Habits of a Slightly More Effective Nutrition Plan
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Paleo Pumped

I know you had great success on the 1st version of the diet. Looking forward to following this version.

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I do know the title, but I don't want to steal Adam's thunder here, so I am going to let him tell you.
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Great! Can't wait.
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