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The only things I don't eat anymore that aren't all natural is a couple diet sodas. One at lunch and one with dinner. Gotta kick that habit, but otherwise, everything is natural, no man-made garbage in this diet any longer.
Oh and Galya, I don't want to hear it, you eat better than anyone I know. :p
That's crazy, I can't do it. Plus the fact I live in a Dorm right now (Air Force training), so I don't even have a kitchen. The microwave and blender are my best friends. Just curious, what's your typical daily diet?
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My "unnatural" regulars: Cytogainer (pwo drink), various vitamin and mineral pills (I take chromium, selenium, ZMA, vitamin C, vitamin E, co-Q10 every day), Splenda, Zone bars (twice a week I have two of them on the way to work)
My "unnatural" occasionals (maybe once a week): Weaver's Buffalo Wings, diet root beer, Haagen Dasz frozen yogurt (maybe once every two weeks)
OK, I should add that about once a week I eat something NOT "all natural" too. Kind of a cheat meal, but even that sure has gotten a lot cleaner after I've gotten to the natty foods.
Jason - my typical diet currently is as follows:
6:30 am - 1 heaping (sp?) cup of oatmeal (the plain kind, nothing added, no sugary crap, the kind your grandpa would have ate) with a handful of blueberries.
9:30 am - 1/4 cup sunflower nuts
11:30 am - 2 cups of broccoli / cauliflower mix; 2 slices whole wheat/whole grain bread; 2-3 slices turkey (not the lunch meat, an actual chunk of turkey); 5-6 slices romaine lettuce; 2 slices tomato; 1 teaspoon brown mustard (doh! forgot about that! not natty!); large handful of green grapes
2:15 or so pm - large chunk of cheddar or monteray jack cheese and 2 hard boiled jumbo eggs
PWO (6ish) - whey protein; creatine; glutamine
7ish pm - chicken breast/hamburger/steak/soy burger/etc. (varies ea. night); 3-4 eggs scrambled; 1 slice cheddar cheese; 2-3 servings frozen veggies (corn/green beans/peas/carrots/etc.); sometimes some tomato sliced up in the eggs, sometimes some mushrooms sliced up in there too.
I use a lot of protein powder. Drink diet sodas. Sugar free jello. Salads from fast food joints (grilled chicken). Canned chili, canned tuna, canned green beans. Crystal Light.
I'm like LD. As a rule I tend to lean towards "sugar free" stuff. There's a fair about of PP, cheese(s), processed meat, and sauces though. Sometimes even peanut butter and jelly, or pasta!
I use whey and casein instead of whole meals out of convenience or just to make natural foods have "more" in them. Apart from that I drink diet Coke about twice a week, drink coffee almost every day (though I am trying to limit it), and sometimes use crystal lite and diet swiss miss chocolate powder to make things taste good. I love treats Sometimes I order pizza and eat the stuff on top (Italian sausage, yum!) I don't like dough.
When I have refeeds I eat some chocolate, cereal and flavored yogurts. All crap.
Exactly. What's your definition of 'natural?' The only true natural food is food that is completely unprocessed. Which rules out oatmeal, bread, any condiments, cheese, milk, any protein powder, 'natty' pb (it's still processed), any packaged meat, etc.
Hell, if you really want to get technical, even most fruit and vegetables aren't 'natural' anymore by the time they get to the supermarket shelves.
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I do not workout. I TRAIN.
I do not eat. I FEED.
I do not sleep. I RECHARGE.
My greatest fear in this life is the fear of being ordinary.
My prejudice is to eat natural, laziness can get in the way. And last week as a result on info on whey protein I did tip in that direction. Decided that there was not an easy way of getting 40 grams right after a work out, nor to eat a gram /lb/day without the whey boost.
Bacon tastes so good can't resist it a couple times a week. Ham and fresh sausage are really not cured meats anymore (i.e., smoked and/or fermented) so they are pretty natural. And per LD tinned tuna et al are a real plus, Grocery Outlet has sardines for 40 cents, there's some great fish oil, 'bout as natural as it gets.
Res The Omnivore's Dilemna its all corn anyway. Yike! He reports that isotope tests of us North Americans show that we eat more corn (vie cows, beef, chicken, pigs) that the original corn eaters in Mexico. As others have on this site I recommend the book. It will leave you just a little disturbed.
I for the most part eat "natural" ie oats, veggies, protein (home made burgers, chicken breasts, steak, soy), homemade soups. I also eat PB, Whey, Coffee and Tea though. and Diet pop. Yeah I can't kick that habit either. It's tasty and damn convienient.
What I have been doing to cut it back is every morning before work I slap a green tea bag into my Nalgene bottle and fill it half full of hot water. I let it steep half hour or so, then I fill it the rest of the way with cold water and add lemon juice. I then add splenda, but you wouldn't have to. When I get to work that bad boy goes in the freezer.
Unfortunately my non typical diet rears it's head far to often and I eat bad foods like Pizza and such. My current goals are to tame those feedings into moderation. THere are days I know I need the calories, but I know I should be getting it from better sources.
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I only eat raw meat from game that I kill myself and wild nuts, berries, and greens that I forage from the woods around my house.
THAT would be natural.
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I do not workout. I TRAIN.
I do not eat. I FEED.
I do not sleep. I RECHARGE.
My greatest fear in this life is the fear of being ordinary.
Bacon tastes so good can't resist it a couple times a week. Ham and fresh sausage are really not cured meats anymore (i.e., smoked and/or fermented) so they are pretty natural. And per LD tinned tuna et al are a real plus, Grocery Outlet has sardines for 40 cents, there's some great fish oil, 'bout as natural as it gets.
Res The Omnivore's Dilemna its all corn anyway. Yike! He reports that isotope tests of us North Americans show that we eat more corn (vie cows, beef, chicken, pigs) that the original corn eaters in Mexico. As others have on this site I recommend the book. It will leave you just a little disturbed.
Bon Apetit - Rob
Did you just say that sausage, canned tuna and sardines are natural? Surely you're joking.
I believe it about the corn though. It sucks, natural grass fed beef is SO much better for you!
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I do not workout. I TRAIN.
I do not eat. I FEED.
I do not sleep. I RECHARGE.
My greatest fear in this life is the fear of being ordinary.
I maybe shouldn't have said all natural. I suppose what I actually mean is trying to eat the least amount of processed food that I can. I know that just about everything involves some processing, but what I'm getting at is not eating things like pizza rolls, pudding, jello, etc. Things that are about as far from the pure form as possible.
I maybe shouldn't have said all natural. I suppose what I actually mean is trying to eat the least amount of processed food that I can. I know that just about everything involves some processing, but what I'm getting at is not eating things like pizza rolls, pudding, jello, etc. Things that are about as far from the pure form as possible.
Don't get me wrong, your diet is awesome, but it's far from 'all natural.' But given our society, it's pretty much impossible to eat natural, you're about as close as one can realistically get.
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I do not workout. I TRAIN.
I do not eat. I FEED.
I do not sleep. I RECHARGE.
My greatest fear in this life is the fear of being ordinary.
I agree with you GR: there are shades of "natural" but what you eat is really good. I like Lou's spectrum at the back of NROL where you have the Clean Eating A List, then the B and C lists, and "Garbage." Your typical foods are all on the A list.
I try for the A list stuff: typically breakfast is an egg white omelet with spinach and cheese, plus some plain yogurt and berries with flaxseed meal, wheat germ and granola (it's too hot to cook oatmeal this time of year). Snacks are carrots, string cheese, or sugar free yogurt. Lunch is a spinach salad with chicken or ground beef patty, walnuts, and vinaigrette and an apple. Dinner is usually chicken, fish or lean beef with veggies. Bedtime snack is cottage cheese.
Geez... I read this and I realize if I wasn't sneaking in cookies or ice cream a few times a week, or those doughnuts or parties that keep turning up at work, I'd be a clean eating freak! All I need to do is cut off all social contact that involves food...
__________________ The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same. -- Carlos Castaneda
I agree with you GR: there are shades of "natural" but what you eat is really good. I like Lou's spectrum at the back of NROL where you have the Clean Eating A List, then the B and C lists, and "Garbage." Your typical foods are all on the A list.
I try for the A list stuff: typically breakfast is an egg white omelet with spinach and cheese, plus some plain yogurt and berries with flaxseed meal, wheat germ and granola (it's too hot to cook oatmeal this time of year). Snacks are carrots, string cheese, or sugar free yogurt. Lunch is a spinach salad with chicken or ground beef patty, walnuts, and vinaigrette and an apple. Dinner is usually chicken, fish or lean beef with veggies. Bedtime snack is cottage cheese.
Geez... I read this and I realize if I wasn't sneaking in cookies or ice cream a few times a week, or those doughnuts or parties that keep turning up at work, I'd be a clean eating freak! All I need to do is cut off all social contact that involves food...
You just need to save those cheat meals for those social occasions. Eat super clean when you're by yourself or during the week when you make your own meals. Then when you go out, it's ok to cheat. Give yourself 2-4 cheat meals a week, it will help, just don't get out of control with them. Cookies and ice cream a few times a week and doughnuts is a little much.
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I do not workout. I TRAIN.
I do not eat. I FEED.
I do not sleep. I RECHARGE.
My greatest fear in this life is the fear of being ordinary.
[quote=Jason B]Did you just say that sausage, canned tuna and sardines are natural? Surely you're joking.
Actually fresh sausage is pretty natural, I frequently have a butcher grind up some pork for me, and add my own salt and spices at home. And tinned fish is pretty easy to picture in a step or two, ala Lou. Light tuna does not have the metals that canned albacore tuna does, and sardines rate high on the omega 3s in almost every chart I have seen.
Canned fish is pretty natural. Most of the time, it's just cooked fish and spices or sauce. So, depends on the sauce, I guess. Tuna in water is just cooked tuna.
Just checked this morning and my oatmeal is 100% rolled oats. Just wanted to add that in.
I'm basically just following Adam's Diet. I actually really like it. Something I think I can follow for a long time. Usually my cheat meal is Friday night. As I said before, it has considerably decreased in size/garbage since I've gotten really clean. I just don't want to eat the garbage all that much anymore.
I subscribed to an e-mail discussion group for people following the PaleoDiet for awhile. There are people who eat like that - at least, they only eat raw, "natural" foods including raw meat. I guess we all have our own personal levels of compulsiveness, but that really takes it to the extreme!
Did you just say that sausage, canned tuna and sardines are natural? Surely you're joking.
Actually fresh sausage is pretty natural, I frequently have a butcher grind up some pork for me, and add my own salt and spices at home. And tinned fish is pretty easy to picture in a step or two, ala Lou. Light tuna does not have the metals that canned albacore tuna does, and sardines rate high on the omega 3s in almost every chart I have seen.
When I say natural, I'm referring to completely unprocessed. Anything that's packaged is processed, i.e. anything canned. And unless your butcher gets his pork from wild pigs, it ain't natural. You said it yourself, American's eat more corn than anybody else cause that's what we feed our animals, which isn't natural.
I'm not saying these are bad foods at all and I certainly don't eat 'all natural.' I'm just saying you've really got to think about the process a food goes through before it gets to your plate before you claim it's natural.
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I do not workout. I TRAIN.
I do not eat. I FEED.
I do not sleep. I RECHARGE.
My greatest fear in this life is the fear of being ordinary.
When I say natural, I'm referring to completely unprocessed. Anything that's packaged is processed, i.e. anything canned. And unless your butcher gets his pork from wild pigs, it ain't natural. You said it yourself, American's eat more corn than anybody else cause that's what we feed our animals, which isn't natural.
I'm not saying these are bad foods at all and I certainly don't eat 'all natural.' I'm just saying you've really got to think about the process a food goes through before it gets to your plate before you claim it's natural.
I think that's why GR mentioned that "all natural" is a misnomer. It gets bandied about on package labels until it's become nearly meaningless. The USDA considers MSG as "natural flavoring," for just an example. And those 100% rolled oats are steamed and rolled, which is a level of processing. Raw oat groats are not really edible, unless you're a horse. As long as it wasn't synthesized in a lab, food manufacturers can label something as "all natural," no matter the level of processing involved.
It would probably be better if we used more precise words like "unprocessed" or "grass-fed beef" or whatever.
__________________ The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same. -- Carlos Castaneda
How close to "all" natural do YOU eat?
Just curious, what's your typical daily diet?
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