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I tried to research on the internet about the difference between the 3 and what I find it's only technical stuff when the information I'm trying to get is how does each react on yout body, pros and cons, etc. Does anybody have good information about it?
I bought 6 lbs of maltodextrin and 4 lbs of dextrose and I wonder if taking it pre-post workout will have benefits without raising my triglycerides or raising BF. As you can see, I know nothing about it.
gonna read this with interest and shall fire an email to a colleague who is bound to have the links. Its another one of those very small cogs in the machine you iron out IMO when you have all the big cogs working efficiently tho ie differential has minimal impact as opposed to getting major diet issues addressed/training/form etc all working efficiently
Any of those, taken in and around the workout should have little to no impact on bf levels.
When you lift, your goal is to keep muscle intact. Fat loss comes later on. A good shake of C and P will help with energy levels and keep catabolism at bay.
As to triglycerides... A workout changes virtually everything about the way your body processes carbs, fats, and proteins. While too much "sugar" may be bad, in general, around a workout, it shouldn't be an issue.
I think BFG is right in that the differences will be minimal. Cost is a factor, of course. If you did 100% of either, you'd be fine.
However, an important point is that malto is not sweet. Dextrose is. Depending on how sweet you want it, you can mix and match. Personally, I go 50/50.
In theory, malto empties from your gut slower than dextrose, so a mixture of both is supposed to supply of more steady "trickle" of energy, as they get absorbed at different rates. How big a difference this makes, I cannot say.
This is one of the simple vs complex carb things. Malto isn't a sugar. It's a complex carbohydrate, so some manufacturers use it because is sounds healthier than sugar... But, that's only important to chemists. It's a fast acting, high GI high GL carb, just like sugar is.
The info I got from maltodextrin so far is positive:
Nutrition Info
Amount Per Serving
Serving Size 1/2 cup
Servings per container 63
Calories 190
Total Carbohydrate 47 g
Sugars 2 g
Carbo Powder 50 g
Carbo Gain is a 100% pure complex carbohydrate supplement derived from maltodextrin, an easily digestible blend of complex carbohydrates from corn starch. Maltodextrin contains "glucose polymers", linked sugar compounds that are easy for the body to assimilate and use. Glucose polymers are metabolized as a slow, steady rate that can help to sustain energy levels during endurance-oriented workouts and/or athletic events and support weight gain.
yeh but now put it onto context NY over how much you will be using per day and the difference comes back to fine tuning a well tuned machine. Really dont believe personaly its that signicant to be concerned with
Great post, LD. I was writting my post and didn't see your post so let me ask you something if you don't mind: Can you mix malto + dex + protein (like the one we already buy) into one shake?
BFG, I appreciate your feedback and wait for your friend's links.
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yeh but now put it onto context NY over how much you will be using per day
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I have to calculate but it's and excellent point you make. I know that a lot of people ignore the importance of protein/carb before workout but I also don't want to exagerate either.
This is more than you want to know, but I'm putting off my trip to the gym...
I measure out all my workout drinks about every two weeks. I measure dextrose, malto, and protein powder into little containers that I can just grab and toss into my gym bag. Then, at the gym, I just add water to a shaker bottle, dump the container in and shake it up.
I actually make it a little more complicated. I have one drink for during my workout and another for post workout. The post workout container has creatine in it. So, I have 12 little containers, since I lift three times per week. They look the same, so I write PRE and PWO with a Sharpie on the containers, since I want the creatine after the workout.
I came back to this today. I buy gatorade powder for $10 for 500mg (half kg). Found a site today where I can get malto and dextrose for about $4 p/kg. I think I'll be putting an order in and making my own from now on [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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I came back to this today. I buy gatorade powder for $10 for 500mg (half kg). Found a site today where I can get malto and dextrose for about $4 p/kg. I think I'll be putting an order in and making my own from now on [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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grab a yellow pages and look up brewery supply stores or bakery supply stores. 4-5lbs should be 3-4 dollars, ~50lbs will be around 35
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Any of those, taken in and around the workout should have little to no impact on bf levels.
When you lift, your goal is to keep muscle intact. Fat loss comes later on. A good shake of C and P will help with energy levels and keep catabolism at bay.
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So will regular food.
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As to triglycerides... A workout changes virtually everything about the way your body processes carbs, fats, and proteins. While too much "sugar" may be bad, in general, around a workout, it shouldn't be an issue.
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The thing is that when you eat and it becomes digested, the body only sees glucose, be it eggs or malto.
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I think BFG is right in that the differences will be minimal. Cost is a factor, of course. If you did 100% of either, you'd be fine.
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Indeed.
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In theory, malto empties from your gut slower than dextrose, so a mixture of both is supposed to supply of more steady "trickle" of energy, as they get absorbed at different rates. How big a difference this makes, I cannot say.
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Not much.
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This is one of the simple vs complex carb things. Malto isn't a sugar. It's a complex carbohydrate, so some manufacturers use it because is sounds healthier than sugar... But, that's only important to chemists. It's a fast acting, high GI high GL carb, just like sugar is.
In the end, I buy maltodextrin because its the cheapest out there and a very easy way to get my calories in (4500). Ive tried gatorade, and its good with whey, but I end up drinking a whole jug of it and that just sucks.
If obtaining maltodextrin, whey, and other supplements is a problem or becoming a nuisance, i just recently bought a 6 lb tub of CytoGainer by cytosport (they make muscle milk too). On sale for 36$, if you cut the suggested serving in half, it makes for a formidable shake with 42g Carb, 27g Pro, 2-3g creatine, 1-2g glutamine and lots of vitamins and minerals. Making it 36 servings, so $1 a serving for me.
Regularly, may be like 50$ =-\ ...time to stock up on the sale tomorrow (GNC, hate the place otherwise).
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I prefer malto/dextrose combination to gatorade powder purely because gatorade powder forces you to mix buckets of water with the shake. At 13g sugar per serving you gotta put in 3 servings per 20g scoop of protein, that's a lot of water to be drinking down at once.
It depends on the size of the powder container, but most of the scoops are not for one serving. I calculated it out, and my scoop had around 40+ grams of sugar for one scoop. I just put one scoop of gatorade powder (I've recently tried out powerade powder which has more dextrose than sucrose) and mix it with one scoop of protein powder. It's really sweet at the beginning, but I just add water to my bottle as I drink it.
Sugar, Dextrose and Maltodextrin
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