I'm leaning towards the Jamis (assuming once I ride it, it fits well) but can't figure out why the bike shop owner, who sells both, is pushing me towards Trek and told me that if he can't get the right thing in Trek, THEN he'll look at Jamis. He even told me you get more for your $$ in Jamis, "But we're a Trek shop, and we try to sell them first." WTF?
Trek 2.1 - About $1200
SPECIFICATIONS
Spec Name
Trek 2.1 Compact
Frame
Trek Alpha Black aluminum w/TCT carbon stays
Fork
Bontrager Race, carbon
Rims/Wheels
Bontrager SSR wheelset (43cm: Alex rims w/aluminum hubs)
Hubs
See Rims/Wheels
Spokes
See Rims/Wheels
Tires
Bontrager Race Lite, 700 x 23c (43cm: 650 x 25c)
Crankset
Bontrager Select
Chainwheel
50/34
Front Derailleur
Shimano Tiagra
Rear Derailleur
Shimano 105
Rear Cogs
SRAM PG950, 9-speed: 11-26
Shifters
Shimano Tiagra STI
Handlebars
Bontrager Select VR, 31.8mm
Stem
Bontrager Select
Brake Levers
Shimano Tiagra
Brakes
Aluminum dual-pivot
Pedals
Aluminum w/clips and straps
Saddle
Bontrager Race Basic
Seat Post
Bontrager carbon
Jamis Ventura Race - About $1100
FRAME
Kinesis 7005 double-butted main frame, carbon fiber monostay, SST Tubing diameters, sloping top tube frame design, replaceable derailleur hanger
FORK
Full Carbon composite straight blade road fork, forged alloy dropouts
HEADSET
Integrated, threadless, 1 1/8”
WHEELSET
Formula CXR-220 wheelset, 20mm aero profile rim w/CNC sidewall, 24/28H
TIRES
Vittoria Zaffiro,
700 x 23C
DERAILLEURS
Shimano ‘105’
rear ‘105’ front,
31.8mm clamp
SHIFTERS
Shimano ‘105’ (M),
ST-R700 (W) Dual Control STI , 20-speed
at some point you have to compare components rather than frames and frame makers I think - and I have no idea how those compare on these two (too long out of the road bike world).
Go with the Jamis. 10 speed vs 9 speed= no question.
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Either it's reverse psychology or he's a cyclist, not a salesman.
This was the OWNER of the shop! He's setting up a 56 cm Trek for me to test (he didn't have one on the floor today.) When he calls me to tell me it's ready I'll tell him I want to ride the Jamis too. On paper it looks like a no brainer... better components for less money! But of course it's all in the ride.
I have the Jamis and have no regrets. Like you said, better components and a lower price. I did not even pay $1000 for mine so be sure to talk about the price too!
This was the OWNER of the shop! He's setting up a 56 cm Trek for me to test (he didn't have one on the floor today.) When he calls me to tell me it's ready I'll tell him I want to ride the Jamis too. On paper it looks like a no brainer... better components for less money! But of course it's all in the ride.
The owner still needs to sell, right? If he gets "rebates" for the Trek that he doesn't get for the Jamis, it's in his best interest to sell Treks (provided that the Trek is a good bike for the customer).
If that's the case, then letting the cat out of the bag is not the best strategy. If he admits the other bike is a better deal, then he didn't make his pitch correctly.
Go with the Jamis. It's all 105 components, no Tiagra like on the Trek.
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I actually went with none of the above. At 5'10" I didn't think I'd need a WSD, but I surely did feel the difference. 56cm WSDs are hard to come by, but this baby was very comfy and in my price range. And now she's in my garage after an inaugural ride this morning:
Dolce Elite. White with little pink accents would most certainly not have been my color of choice, but tall chicks on small budgets can't be too choosy.
That's a really sweet setup, bet it rides like a dream.
I have a Tiagra triple front on my Specialized that's now 7 years old and still working fine, and the 105 is bullet proof. I also have a Pave seatpost with the Zertz inserts, now I want them in my fork and seat stays too. One of these days I need to buy a Roubaix, but until then I'll just envy your Dolce.
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Now that the post above it has been deleted this looks really whacked and random!
Mark, I rode a few bikes that had more 105 and even Ultegra and I must say that the Dolce shifted just as clean and neat. I had one bike shop owner tell me the major difference between Tiagra and 105 was cosmetic. If I'd have had a choice I would have purchased a compact instead of the triple, but whatever. Like I said, on a $1200 budget one can't get too picky. I'm gonna head out for a few miles this morning and enjoy.
I never really could get used to a road bike. I had a decent entry level road bike years ago, but sold it because my mountain bike was the only thing I rode, even for road rides.
I actually went with none of the above. At 5'10" I didn't think I'd need a WSD, but I surely did feel the difference. 56cm WSDs are hard to come by, but this baby was very comfy and in my price range. And now she's in my garage after an inaugural ride this morning:
Dolce Elite. White with little pink accents would most certainly not have been my color of choice, but tall chicks on small budgets can't be too choosy.
Lisa drools a little. I saw this bike in a LBS a few weeks back. She sure is purty. Hope she's a good ride. And so I beat the guys to the punch line..."that's what he said"
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Which one would you buy?
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