But, but, but.... she lives next to Russia! She's a governor! She was the mayor of Wasilla!
The empress has no clothes.
It won't matter. The uneducated masses like her, and they're the ones who win candidates elections. Same reason why Bush got in for a second term (I would say a first time, but we know he didn't actually win that one).
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Well, actually Chris, Geraldine Ferraro fired up the base in 1984 initially as well. The drip, drip, drip of scandals and questionable activities, however, quickly eroded that support, and we all know Mondale lost despite the initial excitement.
We know nothing about this woman yet, really... but she can't duck interviews with those she didn't hand-pick forever and retain any shred of authenticity or credibility, even with the so-called "low information" voter.
I don't think "low information" is synonymous with "stupid." It's mainly a category of people who don't care enough about politics to seek out information.
Flipping it around, lots of partisans on both sides are high-information voters who get all their information from one side, meaning they know their side's spin but don't necessarily have a full grasp of any given issue. A lot of these people are "stupid" by most definitions of the word.
The difference is that the high-information/high-spin voters already have their minds made up, which is why they choose to get all their information from one side in the first place.
The low-information/low-spin voters are different because their minds aren't necessarily made up. They just don't care enough to have an opinion. Enough of them make up their minds at the last minute that they can tip a close election.
That, of course, is why the likability of the candidates is so important. I have no idea which candidate is more likable to a neutral observer who doesn't know anything about their positions, so this, I'd guess, is a true wild card this year.
The difference is that the high-information/high-spin voters already have their minds made up, which is why they choose to get all their information from one side in the first place.
Yup.
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The difference is that the high-information/high-spin voters already have their minds made up, which is why they choose to get all their information from one side in the first place.
I saw this in action last night... went to a neighborhood "ladies night", and I disagree with the majority of them politically. It was fascinating in a very scary (to me) way to hear women I otherwise like and enjoy spending time with expressing their views about Palin (love her, think she's qualified) and Obama (they see him as an empty talking head with no substance)... wow. They didn't lack information, but their info was SO one-sided and biased (yet I suppose they might accuse me of an equivalent bias). This is going to be a bumpy ride...
I saw this in action last night... went to a neighborhood "ladies night", and I disagree with the majority of them politically. It was fascinating in a very scary (to me) way to hear women I otherwise like and enjoy spending time with expressing their views about Palin (love her, think she's qualified) and Obama (they see him as an empty talking head with no substance)... wow. They didn't lack information, but their info was SO one-sided and biased (yet I suppose they might accuse me of an equivalent bias). This is going to be a bumpy ride...
They watch too much Fixed Noise and eat it up. Oraly and his buddies are their new source even if it is so slanted and one sided its all they can understand.
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The difference is that the high-information/high-spin voters already have their minds made up, which is why they choose to get all their information from one side in the first place.
I dunno. I spend MUCH more time on liberal leaning sites (the Nation, Huffpo, here (banned smiley) than conservative sites. I try to keep abreast of what a lot of liberal pundits and "intellectuals" are saying. I spend little time reading most conservative columnists (I often like Pat Buchanan and George Will). I did used to have a subscription to National Review (though I also used to subscribe to The Nation) but I let it lapse when it got too expensive.
I dunno. I spend MUCH more time on liberal leaning sites (the Nation, Huffpo, here (banned smiley) than conservative sites. I try to keep abreast of what a lot of liberal pundits and "intellectuals" are saying. I spend little time reading most conservative columnists (I often like Pat Buchanan and George Will). I did used to have a subscription to National Review (though I also used to subscribe to The Nation) but I let it lapse when it got too expensive.
I know that there are a lot of very honest conservatives. Also a lot of very bright ones. But what I want is a bright honest conservative blogger. As I have mentioned before I will not read a libereral (actually progressive is more my style) blogger who deliberately leads me astray, and even their 'spin' needs to be within bounds. Marshall Talking Points is kind of the model. He avoids rumors, or if they are getting coverage covers them as rumors.
You could conceivably be a candidate to run a blog like that, but the specific skill set, time, cash, and luck needed to get it to take off make it somewhat of a crap shoot. It is needed, and many of us on the left would read it. I kind of like George Will, but he is too politically involved.
I know that there are a lot of very honest conservatives. Also a lot of very bright ones. But what I want is a bright honest conservative blogger. As I have mentioned before I will not read a libereral (actually progressive is more my style) blogger who deliberately leads me astray, and even their 'spin' needs to be within bounds. Marshall Talking Points is kind of the model. He avoids rumors, or if they are getting coverage covers them as rumors.
You could conceivably be a candidate to run a blog like that, but the specific skill set, time, cash, and luck needed to get it to take off make it somewhat of a crap shoot. It is needed, and many of us on the left would read it. I kind of like George Will, but he is too politically involved.
On that topic, Andrew Sullivan's change in tune over the last few years is drastic as hell. He's still annoying though.
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You could conceivably be a candidate to run a blog like that, but the specific skill set, time, cash, and luck needed to get it to take off make it somewhat of a crap shoot. It is needed, and many of us on the left would read it. I kind of like George Will, but he is too politically involved.
That is flattering, but I do not have enough to say to do that, and to the extent what I have to say is even somewhat original, it is not shared by enough people to make it worth it (though the internet can really bring people with unusual interests together, as the porn sites have shown.)
George Will used to be more of a Tory than an American Conservative. My recollection is that in the 70s he used to inveigh about how undertaxed we were (the idea being to balance the budget).
I love hearing Buchanan on Imus. He often gives really good political analysis, and he has a great sense of humor. I do not think he is as anti-semitic as is often presented, but he has crossed the line on occasion. National Review had a whole cover story devoted to the topic.
COURIC: And when it comes to establishing, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and understand the world?
PALIN: I’ve read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.
COURIC: Like what ones specifically?
PALIN: Umm… all of them. Any of them that have been in front of me over all these years.
COURIC: Can you name any of them?
PALIN: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news… Alaska isn’t a foreign country where it’s kind of suggested it seems like, wow how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, DC may be thinking and doing, when you live up there in Alaska. Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.
Latest Palin Gaffe: Can't Name Supreme Court Case Other Than Roe V. Wade
Today, the Washington Post's Howard Kurtz reported on potentially embarrassing clips of Sarah Palin being interviewed by Katie Couric that haven't yet been aired. The Politico has more information on one in particular:
Of concern to McCain's campaign, however, is a remaining and still-undisclosed clip from Palin's interview with Couric last week that has the political world buzzing.
The Palin aide, after first noting how "infuriating" it was for CBS to purportedly leak word about the gaffe, revealed that it came in response to a question about Supreme Court decisions.
After noting Roe vs. Wade, Palin was apparently unable to discuss any major court cases.
There was no verbal fumbling with this particular question as there was with some others, the aide said, but rather silence.
Palin unable to name any examples of McCain ‘pushing for more regulation’ in the past 26 years.»
In her interview with Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) tonight, CBS’s Katie Couric noted that the governor has said, “John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business.” “Can you give us any more examples of his leading the charge for more oversight?” Couric asked. Palin, however, refused to answer the question directly, instead going on about how McCain is seen as a “maverick.” When pressed further by Couric, Palin was unable to name any examples of McCain pushing for more regulation:
PALIN: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.
COURIC: I’m just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.
PALIN: I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring them to you.
It gets worse...she has now descended into parody. Maybe she could join SNL? Seriously, though...JOE SIX-PACK? This woman makes Quayle look like a Mensa scholar. In the history of American politics, has there ever been a candidate for VP so utterly out of their league???
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October 01, 2008 7:58 AM
ABC News' Imtiyaz Delawala Reports: Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin dismissed the media's coverage of her candidacy, saying she'll represent the "Joe Six-Pack American" as vice president, and that she and her family understand the challenges facing middle-class Americans under the current financial crisis.
In a radio interview with conservative blogger and columnist Hugh Hewitt, Palin says she’s not concerned by criticisms of her performance in recent network interviews with ABC's Charles Gibson and CBS' Katie Couric, which many -- including some former conservative supporters -- have said showed her unprepared to be vice president.
"Oh, I think they're just not used to someone coming in from the outside saying you know what? It's time that normal Joe six-pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency, and I think that that's kind of taken some people off guard, and they’re out of sorts, and they’re ticked off about it," Palin told Hewitt.
Palin, who has complained this week about “gotcha journalism” on the campaign trail, told Hewitt that she invites the scrutiny, and that her recent media appearances have helped her better articulate her positions and prepare for her upcoming vice presidential debate with Sen. Joe Biden on Thursday.
“I have a degree in journalism also, so it surprises me that so much has changed since I received my education in journalistic ethics all those years ago,” Palin said when asked by Hewitt whether the Gibson and Couric interviews felt like “pop quizzes designed to embarrass” her. "I’m going to take those shots and those pop quizzes and just say that’s okay, those are good testing grounds. That makes somebody work even harder. It makes somebody be even clearer and more articulate in their positions. So really I don’t fight it. I invite it.”
In an interview Monday with Couric in Columbus, Palin says she has appreciation for the press. But when asked by Couric several times which specific newspapers she reads, she did not name any, saying instead that she reads “all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years.”
“I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news, too. Alaska isn’t a foreign country, where it’s kind of suggested, ‘Wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C., may be thinking when you live up there in Alaska?’ Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.”
Palin told Hewitt that her family’s experience in Alaska helps her relate to the lives of working-class Americans, and that she and her husband Todd understand directly the impact of the current financial crisis.
“Even today, Todd and I are looking at what’s going on in the stock market, the relatively low number of investments that we have, looking at the hit that we’re taking, probably $20,000 dollars last week in his 401K plan that was hit,” Palin told Hewitt. “I’m thinking geez, the rest of America, they’re facing the exact same thing that we are. We understand what the problems are.”
“We’re putting a lot of faith in other people who are using our money as investments. We have to count on the federal government to be overseeing these agencies and entities, making sure that we’re not going to get screwed on this deal, and that our savings are safe,” Palin added of Washington’s attempts to address the financial crisis.
It gets worse...she has now descended into parody. Maybe she could join SNL? Seriously, though...JOE SIX-PACK? This woman makes Quayle look like a Mensa scholar. In the history of American politics, has there ever been a candidate for VP so utterly out of their league???
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"Oh, I think they're just not used to someone coming in from the outside saying you know what? It's time that normal Joe six-pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency, and I think that that's kind of taken some people off guard, and they’re out of sorts, and they’re ticked off about it," Palin told Hewitt.
No, I really really don't want Joe six-pack involved in governing the United States in any capacity, much less in the executive offices. And what is ticking people off is mostly that McCain put a "joe six pack American" in that position in the first place.
But here's something reassuring:
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Yeah I want a beer swilling, NASCAR watching, good ole' boy mentality running the most powerful nation on the planet. Smart intelligent people just are not in touch with most of America...
Joe-Sixpac sheesh...
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“I have a degree in journalism also, so it surprises me that so much has changed since I received my education in journalistic ethics all those years ago,” Palin said when asked by Hewitt whether the Gibson and Couric interviews felt like “pop quizzes designed to embarrass” her.
Yes questions about the basics of politics, and in particular, the presidential candidate you're running with's voting record and policy positions, is "gotcha" journalism!
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Traveling in Asia a couple weeks ago the impression I got from alot of people is that 1. By a major party putting Palin on the ticket that party is not serious about governing, and 2. Hope that Obama is elected, as this election affects the whole world.
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Palin is the top story in today's Asahi News (The NYT of Japan), including how Palin has been mocked on SNL, how some conservatives are calling for her to be removed, and how desperately McCain is defending her.
Laughingstock.
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“I have a degree in journalism also, so it surprises me that so much has changed since I received my education in journalistic ethics all those years ago,” Palin said
I just came very close to barfing my Kashi all over my new computer.
"My education in journalism ethics" sounds like she was a serious scholar writing a dissertation.
She took six years, and earned credits at five different colleges, before she got her bachelor's degree in communications from a school that isn't generally acknowledged for the excellence of its journalism program.
"Journalistic ethics" comes down to this: You're either fair to your subject, or you aren't. You either get your facts right, or you don't. "Fair" means you give the subject of a story a chance to respond. Accuracy is self-explanatory.
How could Couric have not been fair, when she asked her straightforward questions, face to face? And what facts did Couric misrepresent?
"What newspapers do you read?" Palin couldn't answer.
"How do you reconcile the push for democracy and the fact people don't always elect people we like, including Hamas in Gaza?" Palin didn't seem to know what Hamas is.
"How is John McCain a champion of regulation when there's no congressional record indicating as much?" "I'll dig 'em up and send 'em to ya."
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