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Old 09-17-2009, 02:35 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Oh, I had forgotten all about Ribsy! Wasn't that Henry Huggins' dog? My third (or fifth?) grade teacher used to read those books aloud to my class and I loved them. My dogs are half javelina and half coyote-- Javelotes.
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But really they are Labstralian Sheptrievers
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I read the Henry Huggins books to my daughter recently and she loved them. Hate the new illustrations tho. Don't I always?



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HA! We call Tasha (not my avatar) Javalina - and Caleb (my avatar) moves like a coyote when he trots the perimeter
But really they are Labstralian Sheptrievers
And that's a Javelina. Otherwise known as Peccary. Why do I know that? That's what happens if you have a naturalist for a father.
Do you call your dog Javalina 'cause she eats too much?

I'm a big mutt fan. Since I am a mutt, too.




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Old 09-17-2009, 04:28 PM   #154 (permalink)
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yes, Javelina is nicer than "the little pig who hordes the food bowl and can drive away her brother from his"
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Oh, I had forgotten all about Ribsy! Wasn't that Henry Huggins' dog? My third (or fifth?) grade teacher used to read those books aloud to my class and I loved them.
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Yes, Henry Huggins. Remember he found Ribsy in front of the drugstore, and tried to carry him home in a cardboard box and then a paper bag on the bus?

I just read every Beverly Cleary book again, since my 8 year old son had to read a Ramona book in class last year. Seeing him love it made me go to the library and bring home every other one, and we both read them all. Classic, classic books.
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I LOVED all those books. I am having flashbacks to elementary school.....
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Those books are so much better than the crap coming out these days...I am SO GLAD my daughter is now too old for "diary of a wimpy kid" or Junie B Jones. Reading those books aloud almost killed me. In fact I corrected the grammar as I was reading them. I don't think bad grammar is adorable AT ALL.

Whereas, I would read the Beverly Cleary books whether or not I had a kid. They're just good reading. : )



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Also good are the books by Carolyn Haywood (I think the name is right.) She has a series about Betsy: Betsy's Summerhouse, Betsy's Winterhouse, and a bunch of others. Fantastic classics.
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Increasing my NEAT in a day. The biggies are parking further away, cleaning my kitchen floor on my hands and knees instead of a mop, squats. Also instead of vacuuming the carpet, sweep it. Eating standing up I have done, it is better for digestion as well. Another thing I have hear and tried a couple of times is jumping jacks during commercials of your favorite soap or tv show. Walk down every isle of the store even if you don't need items down that isle, I do that every week. I also deliver a weekly newspaper in our small little town. Instead of driving and throwing it out the window, I drive to the home sprint to the door and back. Great interval training, I have 80 people on my route.
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How is everyone this week? I'm happy--I'm seeing really nice recomp going on in my legs, and the scale was down 4.5 pounds (not that exciting, still not back to normal). I've had a good week with food and exercise, and I'm planning my usual calorie-cycle for this weekend. One difference I am adding is upping my NEAT on high calorie days if I am not going to the gym--last weekend I stained the concrete on my front walk and it was 6 hours of using a roller on a pole, walking back and forth. Sometimes I wish I could borrow a bodybugg for days like that, just to see how many calories get burned.

How's everyone going into the weekend?

This week has been good. Since it's been a rest week, that's been hard b/c I love being outside and doing things or just being able to exercise! I'm probably addicted to the endorphins....actually when it comes to running, I know that for a fact! Even though the scale hasn't been as encouraging, my cals have been on and I know that sticking with the plan (OPT) is far better than freaking out and trying to change something. That sums up my week. And my forehand in tennis is getting better.

As for NEAT: I hate sitting around as part of my personality so I don't do things intentionally to get NEAT up there b/c I'm also the burn yourself out type where NEAT can easily become exercise. But two things I've come to appreciate are cycling to commute and walking for errands.

As per the cat and dog conversation, I'm not an animal person.
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I've been reading a lot about NEAT. How much is recommended a day. Do you all measure it by a pedometer? Forgive the silliest question, but I have to ask it. How is standing vs. sitting considered NEAT? I've read some people stand at their computer to surf. Are you really burning that many more calories by standing vs. sitting?

I have a sit-down job. I try to get up and walk to people's offices rather than using our IM client or e-mail. I'm constantly taking movement breaks, but our office isn't that big, so I don't have far to go. At home, I'm pretty active, as in cleaning up after the kids, cooking, laundry, I spend some time after dinner playing a little basketball with the kids, so I think I'm getting it at home, though I could always get more.
Check out this link about the guy who wrote the book on NEAT (and I think coined the word, not sure.) The book is actually pretty good, but don't buy it, just check it out from the library or do a quick read at the bookstore with a cup of coffee.

He does advocate getting daily exercise as a way to increase NEAT. People will argue that NEAT is just the little unconscious things we do, but we can change our behavoir with time.

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As for NEAT: I hate sitting around as part of my personality so I don't do things intentionally to get NEAT up there b/c I'm also the burn yourself out type where NEAT can easily become exercise. But two things I've come to appreciate are cycling to commute and walking for errands.
I am trying to keep my daily burn up by regular exercise and I definitely overdid it these past few days as now I have an overuse injury in my adductor muscle...silly me. I have to take it easy now, which means a low burn, but I need to heal. Yes, there is a line between daily activity and exercise.

Sitting burns NOTHING...that information from my GoWearFit was invaluable. Go to the theater for 2 hours and the line is flatter than when you sleep. As many have mentioned, their GWF tracks them as asleep while watching TV.
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:42 PM   #162 (permalink)
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I have a 15lbs baby that I put in a front carrier and pack him around instead of using the stroller. I dance and play tag a lot with my 2.5year old daughter.

I try to keep moving in the house too. Keeps me active and also keeps me from snacking out of boredom.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:00 AM   #163 (permalink)
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when getting together with friends, I always offer to do it at my house. Its more work, but it allows for 2 things:

1.) controls what we eat as I prepare it
2.) the cleaning and preparing is lots of standing and moving

Had a party last night and from 6pm-10pm, it was nonstop, I never sat once.
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I am trying to keep my daily burn up by regular exercise and I definitely overdid it these past few days as now I have an overuse injury in my adductor muscle...silly me. I have to take it easy now, which means a low burn, but I need to heal. Yes, there is a line between daily activity and exercise.

Sitting burns NOTHING...that information from my GoWearFit was invaluable. Go to the theater for 2 hours and the line is flatter than when you sleep. As many have mentioned, their GWF tracks them as asleep while watching TV.
I am in the same boat. I pulled a muscle in my back on Monday. Then, due to walking sort of bent over to my right side for 3 days, I got hip snapping syndrome on my left side. I haven't done much all week. And even though I've kept my calories in the 1200-1400 range, I'm not seeing any progress. Ususally the scale goes up and down a lot for me depending on how much I exercise, eat and how much water I drink. It has just been stationary all week. The kids have soccer games all weekend so I will be active. And come Monday, no matter how I feel, I am giong to the gym.
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:41 AM   #165 (permalink)
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As far as NEAT goes-I always scrub my floors on hands and knees. I have a rule to never ride in a car to any place I can walk to in thirty minutes or less. Gardeing by far has been one of my biggest Neat contributors in the past though not so much this year. I also scrub my walls and in general try to spread out these various task throughout the week so I'm staying as active as possible on most days.
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:30 PM   #166 (permalink)
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Ive got a question for the people here trying to lose the last 10 lbs:

1.) What does the last 10lbs mean to you? How important is it?

2.) What do you anticipate during the journey to reach the last 10lbs?

3.) Have you ever successfully reached it and did you maintain it?

4.) How long have you been trying to lose the last 10lbs?
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1) For me it means less jiggle in the thighs and an actual waist I can distinguish.

2)DO you mean what do I anticipate doing to get rid of the last 10lbs or to get to the last 10lbs?

-to get rid of would be to increase my activity a little every couple of weeks so I don't plateau
-I think I'm already at the last 10lbs

3-4) My problem has been that I get to apoint where I comfortable and then basically start doing nothing. Myworkouts get sporadic and then I fall off all together which cause me to gain the weight back so I'm always starting over. I have made it pass the 6 month mark and I'm still pushing ahead. Have a nice space set up in the garage now for weights and plan to really get a treadmill this winter to keep up with my running. So, I've lost it many times, just always gain it back. That pattern has shifted and I'm working towards my best body ever!
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**I like to let myself read a book, after I have been doing good with NEAT for a couple of weeks in a row
Skilled, deep-tissue massage. Fabulous!
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:27 PM   #170 (permalink)
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I'm not in the challenge this time, but I can answer this one...

1.) What does the last 10lbs mean to you? How important is it?
It means I achieved my goal and did what I set out to do. It means I'll fit into the size jeans (and tops) that I want to fit, and be closer to the size/shape of body that I have worked hard toward.

2.) What do you anticipate during the journey to reach the last 10lbs?
At this point, unless something changes this will continue to be a slow process, with breaks along the way. Since I'm dealing with some physical challenges (food intolerances, I think) I will have to figure that out before I can continue purposely hitting a deficit.

3.) Have you ever successfully reached it and did you maintain it?
I was lighter (around goal) twice. First, when I originally lost weight 12 years ago with WW, but I know I had nowhere near the muscle that I have now. Second, when I got very very frustrated and took some diet pills which suppressed my appetite - dropped the pounds quickly and loved how I looked, but I couldn't stay on the pills forever. It wasn't worth it. Overall, I have maintained around 40# of my original 50# loss - at worst I was around 30-35# from my original, and at best I was at goal for a few months...

4.) How long have you been trying to lose the last 10lbs?[/quote]
It's gone up and down - I was 17# from goal in April 2008 when I started NROLW originally. I got to within 5-6# just after Thanksgiving, then I gained a few back in the winter. Went on vacation, got fully back up to at least 10# from goal. Cut hard in the spring, got to less than 5# from goal, and then I took a diet break and got sick and... yeah... I'm about 8# from goal right now.
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Great question. Unfortunately I don't really have an answer. In a different situation it would be financial incentives (ie. doing things), but at the moment that just isn't possible.
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Ive got a question for the people here trying to lose the last 10 lbs:

1.) What does the last 10lbs mean to you? How important is it?

To me it means feeling comfortable in shorts and bathing suits. My family spends a lot of time on the beach.

2.) What do you anticipate during the journey to reach the last 10lbs?

I need to get my weekends under control. I like exercise so that's not a chore for me. During the week I am busy and I have no trouble staying on plan. On the weekends I tend to undo all my hard week.

3.) Have you ever successfully reached it and did you maintain it?

I am at comfortable weight for my frame and have been for a while, but I need major body recomp. I have never been at a place where I felt like I had enough muscle and low enough body fat.

4.) How long have you been trying to lose the last 10lbs? I have been working on this since Sept 2008. I have been the same weight within 2 or 3 pounds during that time, but have not budged the body fat!!! ARGGG!!
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Ive got a question for the people here trying to lose the last 10 lbs:

1.) What does the last 10lbs mean to you? How important is it?
The last 10lbs means that I won't have all as much jiggly fat in both arms, legs & trunk. It may also mean I will just have a lot of jiggly skin. How important? Not as important as staying healthy & strong.

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Being demotivated.

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Not as an adult. I've never really been able to diet down below 68kg until starting my low-carb journey in 2003. I'm now at the same weight as when I was 18-20 yrs old.

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I'm not even sure if this goal weight I have in my mind.. somewhere around 57kg (sitting close to 60kg now or around 6.5lbs to go) was my original idea when I let loose of my ideal wt being 63kg.
However, I am despising the look of loose skin SO much that I may want to go back to 63kg again by building up more muscle mass.
The only problem is that I still want to get rid of the flabby fat in thighs, arms & belly but can't wait to build muscle either.. culking is the only way to go. Even then some extra skin surgery will be needed as I can't imagine getting enough muscle to fill up the space between skin & present muscle.

It's a bit amazing how this topic doesn't get discussed much.. are you all thinking the flabby skin will 'magically' disappear or are you rolling around in cash to get tummy tucks , boob lifts & flabby arms done?
Or is it all about 'living & dying by the scale weight?
There's quite a few here who have lost more than 30lbs so there must be others who have this problem of excess skin, right?
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I need to get my weekends under control. I like exercise so that's not a chore for me. During the week I am busy and I have no trouble staying on plan. On the weekends I tend to undo all my hard week.


This is so true! Of me especially. I undo all my deficit on a simple Friday and Saturday overeat fest. Once I control this, the weight moves and I know it, but its so HARD!
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Ive got a question for the people here trying to lose the last 10 lbs:

1.) What does the last 10lbs mean to you? How important is it?
It means feeling comfortable in my skin and in my clothes. It means feeling very confident about my appearance. It means feeling looking like the fitness instructor that I am.


2.) What do you anticipate during the journey to reach the last 10lbs?
Hunger and discomfort. Doing things past my comfort point like dieting on weekends too and skipping the dessert. It means not binge eating.

3.) Have you ever successfully reached it and did you maintain it?
Never maintained it for longer than a few months. I also never reached my goal the right way. Always crashed diet and lost muscle. So no, never reached it.

4.) How long have you been trying to lose the last 10lbs?
For as long as I can remember that ive been 130lbs. Lately its been for about 1.5 years. Yeah, sad.
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It's a bit amazing how this topic doesn't get discussed much.. are you all thinking the flabby skin will 'magically' disappear or are you rolling around in cash to get tummy tucks , boob lifts & flabby arms done?
I think it probably doesn't get discussed much as we can't do much about it. In my case I'll never build enough muscle to fill the excess skin (nor would I want to), but I'd rather be a healthy weight with loose skin than morbidly obese with tight skin. I'm just following the head in the sand approach. Likely the first thing I'll address would be loose skin on my neck (it seems to come and go with weight loss, hydration, even time of day). The rest I probably can't afford to do, so I'll live with. No matter though, as they say you should wait for about a year after finishing with weight loss before you even consider surgery. I've got time to worry about it later.
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maybe silly question, but. . .what is culking?
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cutting and bulking at the same time (ie. trying to cut fat, but build muscle)
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Culk=cut+bulk at the same time or IOW losing fat & adding muscle. In reality this means you are overeating one day (several days or or even 1 week) & undereating another day (several days or several weeks ), all depending on how much you want of one versus the other.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:29 PM   #180 (permalink)
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Culk=cut+bulk at the same time or IOW losing fat & adding muscle. In reality this means you are overeating one day (several days or or even 1 week) & undereating another day (several days or several weeks ), all depending on how much you want of one versus the other.
It is neither over eating nor under eating. You should not be doing either of these things. It is eating at around 1700 to 1800 clean calories with NO CHEATS while doing hard cardio work 4-6 days a week and heavy strength training 5-6 days a week. Because building muscle increases metabolism which increases fat burning. Espi I am not sure where you got your info.
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