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Old 08-29-2009, 12:38 PM   #271 (permalink)
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And that extra stuff will come right off the scale. A 2400 "binge" but still with a 500 cal deficit is all right in my book.
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Agreed. Don't be so hard on yourself. You really are, as everyone is saying, doing great!
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Good to see you call it 'splurge'.. that word 'binge' Amanda was using got me really alarmed.
A binge is really something totally out of control , out of mind unstoppable eating. It may not be so much about calories but about inability to control.
Yet, I'm sometimes so amazed to see people address totally modest intakes , like in this case 2400 kcal as a binge.. geez, in my book that'd only go for well above 4000kcal ..

This is nothing to worry about & when still at a deficit = successful dieting day.
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Oh yea, no major worries....I wasn't getting "too" down on myself. It just annoys the hell out of me when it happens. It is like there is no connect between my head, my mouth, my hand, and the craving. It's all an immediate reaction. I've always done better finding ways to avoid the craving (no junk in the house, higher protein) and it works pretty well. But to actually squelch a craving is very difficult.

I did do it a few days back when I had a McDonalds craving, and was pleased with myself.

I think much of it has to do with the fact that my burn is back up high. Yup, you heard that right. My one week maintenance raised my burn easily back over 2500 and I'm hitting 2700 really easily and had a 2900 day.

That's exactly what was supposed to happen, keep that metabolism raring to go. And it works, it really works.

But it does make you more hungry, and you do have to eat.

Quick question if anyone sees this. I started the creatine only 2 days ago (2 servings, no loading) and know I can gain water weight. How soon does that show? I was 160 this morning, 159 yesterday morning and 157 the day I started the creatine. I'm kind of hoping it shows quickly, then I don't need to be concerned, but I kind of don't want to go higher than the 160.

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Burn -2547
Cals - 1617
Deficit - 930 (37%)
Protein - 129 (30%)
Fat - 80 (42%)
Carbs - 116 (28%)

Exercise: Long evening walk

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Plans for today (Sunday):
I'd like to take a long morning walk, to get a bunch of calories burned. I really need to go do weights and my lower body feels recovered again. Last lower body workout was last Monday. Seems about right, I tend to say it takes 5 days for my body to recover, dang, that's a long time. Hopefully the creatine will help my recovery.

Since it's such a nice day, maybe I'll do another evening walk, just for more calories. The walks are such a nice way to get a bigger burn and they put no undue stress on my body.

Tomorrow is time for a harder cardio workout at the gym, which would work as I'd like to do upper body tomorrow.

I do think the split might work well for me. Leigh suggested it in her hypothyroid discussion, and though I don't have that problem, it might be a good plan for fibro. I'd like to see her talk about fibro sometime, I might have to write and suggest it.

One other thing, I did start working on sewing a bikini, and I have to say, my boobs just don't fit right in a triangle slide bikini top anymore. They just are a bit too soft and droopy, non of that natural perkiness a younger (or augmented) bust might have. I think I might try some suits on in the store. I'd really like something new. It will give me a goal to be able to wear it next summer also.

Even more rambles. I keep thinking of trying a specific diet for the 12 week challenge, but it seems too restrictive. I don't do restrictive very well. I reread OPT and remix, and I think I'll just keep doing what I'm doing.
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Good for you.. and so right about recognizing that even though your path (diet/exercise) might be different from other plans, that look so promising at first sight... your path may bring you more success after all is said & done because it fits you like a glove.
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Oh yea, no major worries....I wasn't getting "too" down on myself. It just annoys the hell out of me when it happens. It is like there is no connect between my head, my mouth, my hand, and the craving. It's all an immediate reaction. I've always done better finding ways to avoid the craving (no junk in the house, higher protein) and it works pretty well. But to actually squelch a craving is very difficult.
Yea, I know... it's from years of bad eating habits. Hopefully 2 years from now, we'll be more familiar with our weak impulses and have habits to keep them short, and recovery quick. I feel the same way about "impulse" "immediate reaction"

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Good to see you call it 'splurge'.. that word 'binge' Amanda was using got me really alarmed.
A binge is really something totally out of control , out of mind unstoppable eating. It may not be so much about calories but about inability to control.
Yet, I'm sometimes so amazed to see people address totally modest intakes , like in this case 2400 kcal as a binge.. geez, in my book that'd only go for well above 4000kcal ..

This is nothing to worry about & when still at a deficit = successful dieting day.
And that's why I had it in quotes, because I didn't think it was that big a deal. But I'll try to be more mindful of how I use the word in the future.

Annette, I'm not sure how long it takes for the water retention from the creatine to show up. I started it back when I was working for maintenance calories and therefore expected to gain anyway. Maybe someone else has an idea.
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So here is my weekly data. Thankfully it's not my MONTHLY data, I still have till tomorrow morning for that...lol.

It is interesting though, how information can be skewed due to one day. I'm doing weekly weigh-ins and monthly weigh-ins. If I go by my actual weight for today, I've gained 2 lbs this week, though my low this week gives me a 1.6lb loss. Now I'm not letting it freak me out, I refuse to be ruled by the scale. I know it's not fat gain, as my GWF says I should have lost almost 2 lbs this week. I have been using the progesterone cream to regulate my hormones and this is the first time in 4 months I haven't had a period within 1.5 - 2 weeks. I've gone on to 3 weeks as of today, so I can be having water retention due to that.

I also started the creatine a few days ago (though not loading) and I still don't know how quickly one can retain weight from that.

Some cool things to note on my chart above. My burn is back up high, easily over 2500 for each day. a 2650 average per day. But I also think that made me crave carbs, and my cals are higher this past week, averaging about 1775 per day. I still have just under a 900 cal deficit though, or around 33% for the week.

But I think my body loses weight better when I can keep my calories around a 1500 daily average for the week, and a 1000 cal deficit.

So what does one do? I can force myself to eat the lower calories for a few days and then my body will naturally slow down to compensate, or just accept that I might have a slower weight loss, but be more satisfies on a higher calorie diet.

My body will not allow me to burn 2700 calories a day and only eat 1400 for more than a few days.

I think the days of high losses (except for water weight) are over as dieting isn't as easy. It's still easy in that it's just all about the numbers: track cals, eat less than you burn, etc., but the balance is tighter.

So once again, I've analyzed my graph, and my plan is to stay on track.

Tomorrow I officially start the Fall Challenge. I will take my starting weight and measurements (no lowest weight) since it is the first of the month. I should get my photos taken some time this week.

I will state my actual diet and exercise plans tomorrow, and also my goals, and post my starting stats.

Yesterday I didn't make it to the gym. My husband and I went to a local arboretum instead, so I got a lot of walking in, and my legs, hips and lower back felt it. So today I will start my first workout for the challenge and will actually track my weights. I plan on doing a nice walk this morning. I walked everyday last week, nice.
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Forgot to post this.

Diet for Yesterday:
Burn - 2539
Cals - 1736 (32% deficit)
Protein - 102g (26%)
Fat - 66g (37%)
Carbs - 147g (37%)

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I went to the mall all motivated to buy a 2-piece swimsuit to use for the challenge. I went in in a good mood , I left in a horrible mood .

Why in the hell did I do that to myself?

I should know better by now.

I don't have a body that can even PRETEND to wear a 2-piece swimsuit. There is absolutely NO support of any sort in the tops, and I'm just too damn fat and flabby to consider it.

Okay, so it's just for the challenge, but I still don't want my boobs to sag to the floor.

I gave up on that plan and bought a bra (let's not even discuss how hard it is to find a bra for older deflated breasts) and that will work much better with a pair of panties to match.

So now I'll pose in my unmentionables for the whole world to see.

I do not want to hate my body. It's my body, it's pretty darn healthy, and I have to live with it. I have a husband who likes it pretty darn well and children who tell me all the time I look better than most the other moms out there.

So somehow I have to use today's experience to keep me motivated and on the right track. Next summer when I need a new swimsuit I will hopefully find a nice one, but I don't need to worry about it now.

I don't want to hate my body, but I DO hate the mall.

Rant over...comments not necessary, I'm not looking for hugs and support, just had to get it off my chest...not much else there these days

Note: I just put lots of smileys in there to make me feel better
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Pssst -- www.victoriassecret.com -- swimsuits with underwire and support.
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I went to the mall all motivated to buy a 2-piece swimsuit to use for the challenge. I went in in a good mood , I left in a horrible mood .

Why in the hell did I do that to myself?
I guess there's always something we can feel bad about. Go check out my graph I just created, and then you can put your progress in perspective.

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Diet for Yesterday:
Burn 3168
Cals - 1392
Deficit - 1776 (56%)
Protein - 121 (34%)
Fat - 54 (34%)
Carbs - 113 (32%)

Exercise:
Morning 1 hour walk
Evening 1 hour walk

Weights lower body:
wide leg deadlift
45x12
56x12
77x10
45x12

Cybex leg press (single leg)
90x10l 10r
70x12l 12r
80x10l 10r

split squats (supported for balance and help)
no weight 8l 8r
no weight 8l 8r

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Okay, so I actually tracked what I did for a change. I will continue to work on a similar routine for lower body, I know it doesn't seem like much, but it's what I can do and be able to walk. I will increase weights slowly. I might add an additional exercise here and there.

I can't do squats as I'm not supposed to put weight on my traps, though I could use dbs. I still have grip issues in the left hand due to neck issues, so I don't plan on going too heavy.

Basically we'll see what happens.

Challenge info to be posted today.
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So now I'll pose in my unmentionables for the whole world to see.
Annette, this is what I do due to lack of bikini (and being too much of a skinflint to buy one ) and I don't even bother to match although I should start to wear something a little nicer...

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This sounds lovely. I'm looking forward to some autumn walks/runs through the colourful leaves.

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Wow - check out that deficit!

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I'm guessing that when the new thread is opened for pics and stats, we also put what we'll be doing during the challenge in there too?
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Wow! Annette, you realize your deficit for yesterday is as large as some people's maintenance? WTG!
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Trust me, I worked hard for that deficit. I just felt like I hadn't had a big one in a while and it would be a good start for me. Plus I did it the easy way, with lots of walking. It's easy to burn a lot when you walk a lot.

Okay, photos have been taken, I'm starting my official posts below.
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Fall Challenge

Goals
  • 20+ lb healthy weight loss
  • regular exercise(weight, cardio, easy cardio, stretching)
  • no injuries or aggravation of current issues
Diet Plan
  • Use GWF to aim for a 1000 cal average daily deficit
  • Aim for a 1500 calorie diet (more or less as needed)
  • Take breaks as needed for sanity
Exercise Plan
  • Initial plan is upper/lower split, aiming for 3-4 weight sessions a week
  • Cardio will continue with what I'm doing, lots of walks, dancing and cardio machines at gym (we'll see what happens as the weather changes.)
  • Stretching - need to work this into my program
Basically I'm continuing with what I was doing already. There are a few areas I want to work on, complaince-wise, so those are a few goals I want to aim for also.

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  • 110g of protein daily (my approx. lean mass)
  • under 60g of fat daily
  • post daily stats
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Okay so I had to LOL at the saggy boobage thing. Jane hit the nail on the head. Underwire support swim suits. And honestly dear you actually look great in the gear you are wearing. You have very fortunate genetics and even fat distribution. I have been critically analyzing bodies for awhile now and have seen much worse. So it ain't where ya wanna be yet. Good news is that you have the option of actually being pretty amazing when you are ript.
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And honestly dear you actually look great in the gear you are wearing. You have very fortunate genetics and even fat distribution.
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Okay so I had to LOL at the saggy boobage thing. Jane hit the nail on the head. Underwire support swim suits. And honestly dear you actually look great in the gear you are wearing. You have very fortunate genetics and even fat distribution. I have been critically analyzing bodies for awhile now and have seen much worse. So it ain't where ya wanna be yet. Good news is that you have the option of actually being pretty amazing when you are ript.
Leave it to Karla to give you a good X-ray analysis.

Yes, it's true.. you have really nice & even fat distribution. A total bonus when your bf% is going to be in the low 20s as you'll look amazing.
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I agree with the above posters--your distribution is very even! Also I wanted to comment that based on your sewing silhouette thing (sorry; forgot the proper term) that you posted a while ago, you've made awesome progress both with fat loss and postural improvements.
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Leave it to Karla to give you a good X-ray analysis.

Yes, it's true.. you have really nice & even fat distribution. A total bonus when your bf% is going to be in the low 20s as you'll look amazing.
It is hard to see the good when so far from the "goal" so why not shed some light? Seriously, These are the sort of genetics that every girls wishes for and I am a tiny bit jealous actually. All that is left is to do the cutting. Sure it is hard but at the end of it, there will be a very nice reward indeed.
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You guys really are sweet and very supportive, trust me, it means to world to me after looking at my fat in the photos. When I've been lean I do have a pretty "normal" shaped body in that I don't have wide hips or saddle bags. My bust will be non-existent though.

Any weight I have later will probably be carried in my legs. I have sold "German" legs as we say in our family. And I do have an overly large fat pocket in my inner thigh. I was a little girl and aware of that excess fat.

Whatever, I could care less today.

Now it's just getting THIS excess fat off

It's a weird thing to think of the body that might be under this one.

Oh, and I am a bit concerned about my belly, I hope it goes down. And in the photo I can see some curvature of my back, and I want to compare that with some old photos (from before my neck was diagnosed as messed up.)

I have done outlines of my shoulders (for sewing) and they come out so crooked, and now I know why. Maybe when the fat is gone and it is clearer to see, it will be easier to work on the problem. Or live with it as long as I don't hurt.

I had a good workout at the gym today, upper body and cardio, and in 1 hour I'll be on the massage table, and later this evening I'll probably walk for some easy exercise and caloric burn.

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Just like I thought... Nearly perfect genetics. I hate you now... (JK, sort of...)

Seriousy.... No matter how hard I cut, I won't look that even. You are very lucky. It is just a matter of good planning and compliancy into your goal.
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Wow, now to live up to Karla's expectations.
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Old 09-01-2009, 03:45 PM   #296 (permalink)
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You're doing absolutely amazing Annette! I hold my weight just like you do so I understand about the belly and leg thing. I have solid legs too, but they aren't what I hate most. It's my arms. They are the last to go. Everywhere else is pretty even.

Anyway, I wanted to do my part in cheering you on!
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:24 PM   #297 (permalink)
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Wow, now to live up to Karla's expectations.
You look so YOUNG in this new avatar. Losing weigh has a tendancy to take years off the looks.. bravo!
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You look so YOUNG in this new avatar. Losing weigh has a tendancy to take years off the looks.. bravo!
Exactly what I was thinking!

Keep it up, Annette. You're doing great!
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Old 09-01-2009, 09:33 PM   #299 (permalink)
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I agree with the others. You'll look fantastic as you get closer to goal. And definitely the new avatar makes you look years younger.
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I kept thinking --- wow she looks good. I didn't realize it was a new avi. Way to go --- looking really good.
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