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Old 06-11-2009, 07:25 PM   #211 (permalink)
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Okay, I'm supposed to be getting tax stuff ready. So I'll be brief:
1. Nice workout!
2. Raised "to be religious" is my best guess.
3. Galya's still talking to you, how about Roland?
4. Fingers crossed bigtime!!!
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Okay, I'm supposed to be getting tax stuff ready. So I'll be brief:
1. Nice workout!
2. Raised "to be religious" is my best guess.
3. Galya's still talking to you, how about Roland?
4. Fingers crossed bigtime!!!

1. Thanks!
2. Thanks again! Sounds right to me.
3. I haven't regularly corresponded with him, so it's hard to tell. He did stay, talk in a friendly way and laugh for a while after the comment, AND did not spit derisively nor pee on my lawn when he left so I figure he's ok.
4. Thanks. Very very anxious. I figure I will send out 10 or 100 more resumes so I won't be so worried about that one.


I'm waiting for you to put the Angelmaker on your Facebook page.

And, tried the Mahi Mahi--delish! Excellent recipe. My 15 year old LOVED it.




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I really hope you get picked up by Results. That would be an awesome experience. It is such a different and interesting business model, too, for a gym. You would learn so much and then you can work your way up to program designer and possibly start your own gym?
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1. Thanks!
2. Thanks again! Sounds right to me.
3. I haven't regularly corresponded with him, so it's hard to tell. He did stay, talk in a friendly way and laugh for a while after the comment, AND did not spit derisively nor pee on my lawn when he left so I figure he's ok.
4. Thanks. Very very anxious. I figure I will send out 10 or 100 more resumes so I won't be so worried about that one.


I'm waiting for you to put the Angelmaker on your Facebook page.

And, tried the Mahi Mahi--delish! Excellent recipe. My 15 year old LOVED it.
3. I've heard that if Roland doesn't do that, you're pretty safe.

And YAY that you liked the mahi mahi recipe! I love it, though I never eat just ONE serving the way it's written, lol! I also never use all the sauce though.

And hmmm, I'll have to see about that angelmaker thing.
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Lots to catch up on in here!!! Lol about religion and stuff...it's one of those things I tend to try and stay away from if I can. I figure whatever works is awesome as long as it makes you happy. I'm sure they've forgiven your hubby...man...sometimes you just wanna gag the DH doncha???

Anywhoooooooooooodles...sucks about the running, but spinning was always really a favorite for me, you pretty much leave everything in that room. Something about the music and all the other people and the rhythm...it just gets everything out. I was enjoying rowing for awhile, but my first choice would be spinning...

About the training cert...before the summit we had bought the books for the NASM cert...and yikes...was I overwhelmed. It's so much information. You can totally do it tho...I only hope I'm as motivated to study as you are!
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The NASM book is a lot thinner than the ACE book I saw at Elisabeth's house. My NASM book is thinner than either of my other cert books and was the easiest test to study for and pass. I don't know how any of them compares to ACE though.
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YIKES...I'm glad I have the smaller book!!!! Sorry Elisabeth!!!
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Good lord woman! Bite your tongue. The program designer part would be great.

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About the training cert...before the summit we had bought the books for the NASM cert...and yikes...was I overwhelmed. It's so much information. You can totally do it tho...I only hope I'm as motivated to study as you are!
Karla said the test is pretty easy, but it's good information so I don't mind studying it. Except for some of the silly stuff about high reps and low weight for women "because they are worried about getting bulky."

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YIKES...I'm glad I have the smaller book!!!! Sorry Elisabeth!!!
Gee, thanks. Sigh...I did say I didn't mind more information if it would make me a better trainer......

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The ACE manual has a large section of it dedicated to the human anatomy. The test has almost no questions on it about the human anatomy. It has lots of questions about legal stuff though.
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Don't you hate when that happens? I remember going through an electricity exam one say 4 chapters, and there was nothing on the last chapter. I felt like I wasted my time on it. However, I suppose in the case of the ACE manual, the information will be useful in the future.
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Ugh yuck...I'd rather the anatomy questions than the legal! Lol...

You're right tho the more you know the better...maybe I need a bigger book?
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oh, good to know. I'll PM you for more details.

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Don't you hate when that happens? I remember going through an electricity exam one say 4 chapters, and there was nothing on the last chapter. I felt like I wasted my time on it. However, I suppose in the case of the ACE manual, the information will be useful in the future.
Well, exactly. I'm trying to really understand it even though it is not on the test. I remember in college, I hated the biology teacher because his tests were so easy. I once wrote the Krebs cycle on the side of my test because I'd spent all this time memorizing it and he didn't ask one question about it.

Boy, I was a freak. Just realized that.

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Ugh yuck...I'd rather the anatomy questions than the legal! Lol...

You're right tho the more you know the better...maybe I need a bigger book?
Well, at least with the legal, if you know it, you know it--at least with me. Anatomy is more memorization and harder to me. But the good thing is I have the books to refer to later.

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Big weekend. Lots of stuff happening. Some good.

I've been working on my squats since I met with Galya. When she started looking all alarmed when I was showing her a bodyweight squat, I realized I had a lot of work to do. Srsly. She actually said, "NO! STOP!" Kind of embarrassing.

So, I've gone over all of the great squat threads and youtube vids and after a lot of fiddling I made another adjustment that just blew my mind. My entire thorax was at the wrong angle. I was leaning like crazy on my squats and when I made myself stay upright I got the weirdest sensation in my lower traps; with some more forcing upright squats I finally felt how I needed to flex my spine. so very odd.

My chiro had been muttering about flat backs but didn't say anything about fixing it--and when I was researching it, I noticed that I had gone from one issue--pelvic tilt--to another--flat back. Seems that I adjust one thing, and the other goes out of whack. Overall it's positive--but I guess that posture correction takes a lot of time because you can't do it all at once--the ligaments and joints and such have to adapt. It's an ongoing thing, but with each adjustment I get a little better. This last thing, getting back the thoracic curve, is the most awkward but the most pain-relieving yet--suddenly the tightness in my neck is gone. Hallelujah.

I spent the weekend with my husband's family. So did he--in Arizona. Bachelor weekend at the river for him. He said every one of his brothers and their friends are minimally overweight (few) obese(most) morbidly obese(few). Kind of a bell curve of fatness. He talked to those who would listen, and the brother that's getting married called me yesterday for advice. He's fit underneath his overweightness, so I'm just making some nutrition suggestions and giving him general workout ideas.

I was with my favorite SIL, from whose husband I originally got the Body for Life book almost 3 years ago. I haven't seen her in nearly a year and she just couldn't stop talking about how much my body has changed. I am going to write up some stuff for her and my other SIL, because I was just shocked at how ignorant they are on nutrition. A while ago a nutrtionist told me that she thinks that people know what to do, they just don't do it. I totally disagree. Most people just get jerked around by whatever is in the popular media and have no real knowledge.

Anyway, it's nice to be a good influence although my MIL is still acting like an asshole. Every bite of food I put in my mouth, she was watching. On Sunday I got this crazy good chicken over fries from this Greek place (one of Peter's clients) and she said, "Oh, I would have expected you to eat a salad." WTF??? Grrrrrr. I just looked at her blankly.

So, the not-so-nice part is that it's clear that I"m overtraining. I thought I could get away with training like crazy and losing fat, but it's just not working. I've got some nice body recomp going on--some of my pants that didn't fit well at the summit do now--but the scale is not cooperating. So I have to decide what to do the rest of the month. I have to either scale back the workouts and just lose scale weight, or keep up and resign myself to the scale staying the same. With my thyroid issues and god knows what else, I really have to listen to what my body is saying. Right now, it's screaming, "either eat more or move less." Evidence--empty peanut butter jar. Two weeks of big deficit and lots of training=body rebellion. Oh, and also--I noticed I was kind of depressed on Sunday and yesterday and I remembered I forgot to take my thyroid meds and fish oil. Sigh.

As of right this minute, I think I'm scaling back. No more spinning for now. I don't think the yoga is a problem, but it might be---I do think it's mainly rehab, although a couple of the teachers do a power yoga that I love but is probably pretty hard on me.

I did FLIIB yesterday and the shorter rest times almost killed me. I did finish without barfing though, but I have to re-assess if it is too much or not for right now. Here it is:

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Cat/camel
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reach roll and lift
prone y's
push ups plus/scapular pushups
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foam rolling
squat mobility exercises
butt kicks
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sg DL
3x10@100
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3x10@5x2
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3x10@75
RDL/Row
3x10@45
LBRussian twist
3x10

So, I"m going to focus on some rehab today--foam rolling, hot tub, stretching. Writing up stuff for fat relatives.
And plowing through this ACE book. Pray for me.



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I always think of Alan's reply when he was talking about the dude that knew what to do but didn't do it: "So how's that working for you?"
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Feeling much more normal today--I was flipping out yesterday because the scale was up, way up.....7 pounds up to be exact--but it's back down again so I'm feeling conflicted about how to proceed. All of my smallest pants now fit, even the size 2 Ann Taylors. Did not fit one month ago at the same weight. So, what to do, what to do.

I think I'll go to the brutal yoga class. That's what I'll do. : )
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I am absolutely with you on that one, it's pretty shocking what people DON'T know. It's hard to know what right and wrong especially if your reg doc isn't giving you any pointers, and the TV has one fad diet after another with a book to go with it!

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Anyway, it's nice to be a good influence although my MIL is still acting like an asshole. Every bite of food I put in my mouth, she was watching. On Sunday I got this crazy good chicken over fries from this Greek place (one of Peter's clients) and she said, "Oh, I would have expected you to eat a salad." WTF??? Grrrrrr. I just looked at her blankly.
Ok...I totally would have slapped her. Is she tiny?

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So, the not-so-nice part is that it's clear that I"m overtraining. I thought I could get away with training like crazy and losing fat, but it's just not working. I've got some nice body recomp going on--some of my pants that didn't fit well at the summit do now--but the scale is not cooperating. So I have to decide what to do the rest of the month. I have to either scale back the workouts and just lose scale weight, or keep up and resign myself to the scale staying the same. With my thyroid issues and god knows what else, I really have to listen to what my body is saying. Right now, it's screaming, "either eat more or move less." Evidence--empty peanut butter jar. Two weeks of big deficit and lots of training=body rebellion. Oh, and also--I noticed I was kind of depressed on Sunday and yesterday and I remembered I forgot to take my thyroid meds and fish oil. Sigh.
I am Soooooooooooo with you on this. Coming from similar thyroid territory too...I wonder if we are predisposed to the whole recomp versus losing fat thing in general? Hmmmm...just a thought. You gotta do whatever you'll be able to stick with I guess...I know I would find it really hard to step back on the exercise end myself...I just enjoy it too much! I hope you can find a happy medium...and ditto...I HATE when I forget my meds...*rar* Speaking of which............
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Boy, I feel great. I found the perfect yoga teacher for me--she gives enough direction that I don't feel lost and is very challenging. She did shoulders today and with all of the posture work I've done in the last week, it was amazing. I am activating muscles that have been asleep for a long, long time. For instance, when I was doing the lat pulldown I went down in weight so I could focus on my lower traps--and damned if my lats aren't really sore. It seems I was somehow not using my lats?! Not well anyway. My entire back, for that matter, my glutes and hams too--have shifted with the adjustments I've made. I'm totally amazed and I finally see my body the way it's supposed to look, with my shoulders down and my chest open. Wow.

I'm not going to agonize on the emphasis for right now. I'm just going to listen to my body and see what it says about deficit. I've had a pretty steady downward trend this year and it won't kill me to plateau, maybe I need it.

I'm going nuts on this studying. My daughter is home today and I can't get a thing done. I can't imagine what I'm going to do when they are out of school next week! Ugh. Tie them up.
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Ok...I totally would have slapped her. Is she tiny?

I am Soooooooooooo with you on this. Coming from similar thyroid territory too...I wonder if we are predisposed to the whole recomp versus losing fat thing in general? Hmmmm...just a thought. You gotta do whatever you'll be able to stick with I guess...I know I would find it really hard to step back on the exercise end myself...I just enjoy it too much! I hope you can find a happy medium...and ditto...I HATE when I forget my meds...*rar* Speaking of which............
She's TINY--less than 5 feet. But fat. She's been fat since her 20's. And always complaining about it and giving pointers on losing weight!!!

You may have missed it, but she's the one who told me not to lose any more weight because "Honey, your face...."

My husband is great about her. He is the oldest and he doesn't take any crap from her and always defends me. It's a miracle he is as balanced as he is with a mother like that.

I wouldn't cut out the weights. The spinning gets cut first, then the yoga, weights are last. Gotta have my weights. During my most sucessful fat loss I was doing ONLY weights, no cardio. I dunno why I was trying something else. Just being contrary, I guess.

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I did FLIIB yesterday and the shorter rest times almost killed me. I did finish without barfing though, but I have to re-assess if it is too much or not for right now.
I'm not looking forward to the A3 workout tomorrow, as like you mentioned, the rest periods go down. You'll eventually figure out what you need.

Now, back to the studying!
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That sounds a lot like Karla's "You look like shit" but much nicer and without the expletives of course.
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Boy, I feel great. I found the perfect yoga teacher for me--she gives enough direction that I don't feel lost and is very challenging. She did shoulders today and with all of the posture work I've done in the last week, it was amazing. I am activating muscles that have been asleep for a long, long time. For instance, when I was doing the lat pulldown I went down in weight so I could focus on my lower traps--and damned if my lats aren't really sore. It seems I was somehow not using my lats?! Not well anyway. My entire back, for that matter, my glutes and hams too--have shifted with the adjustments I've made. I'm totally amazed and I finally see my body the way it's supposed to look, with my shoulders down and my chest open. Wow.

I'm not going to agonize on the emphasis for right now. I'm just going to listen to my body and see what it says about deficit. I've had a pretty steady downward trend this year and it won't kill me to plateau, maybe I need it.

I'm going nuts on this studying. My daughter is home today and I can't get a thing done. I can't imagine what I'm going to do when they are out of school next week! Ugh. Tie them up.
Sounds great, all your changes and the yoga instructor. I wish I could find one that didn't bore the crap out of me. I don't know how I'd find time for yoga, though. I have been incorporating pigeon, down dog and child's pose in my post workout stretch routine. I really think yoga is a good thing.
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I have a similar sounding mother-in-law...she watches me eat and is constantly asking questions about my own mother, who is very small. She wonders why she stays the same size (which is normal) despite spending two hours in the gym a day. I can't quite spit it out yet, that her huge portions of comfort food for dinner every night might be the problem. Sigh.

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Old 06-18-2009, 06:41 PM   #235 (permalink)
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That sounds a lot like Karla's "You look like shit" but much nicer and without the expletives of course.
Uh, I can guarantee it wasn't nicer. At all. And some people don't need to swear to get the same point across.

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Sounds great, all your changes and the yoga instructor. I wish I could find one that didn't bore the crap out of me. I don't know how I'd find time for yoga, though. I have been incorporating pigeon, down dog and child's pose in my post workout stretch routine. I really think yoga is a good thing.
You would like this lady. She uses sun salutations as cardio. Very challenging. Not all touchy feely and weird.

Pigeon is murder on my knees, they actually have a new hip opener that works wonders. I would try to explain it but I would fail.

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I have a similar sounding mother-in-law...she watches me eat and is constantly asking questions about my own mother, who is very small. She wonders why she stays the same size (which is normal) despite spending two hours in the gym a day. I can't quite spit it out yet, that her huge portions of comfort food for dinner every night might be the problem. Sigh.

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What is up with these MILs? I told my son to slap me if I ever treated his wife like that. I am going to LOVE my DIL's and treat them like my own daughters.

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Show her this:

Craig is so funny. I sent that to my BIL who I put together a program for--which leads me to, I made my first money! My BIL is getting married (finally) and wants to lose 10 pounds in a month. He's a pretty athletic guy, so it was just making recommendations on diet (stop drinking 24 oz of soda every day) and giving him some workout guidelines. I didn't ask, but he sent me a check for $100 and wants to refer his buddies to me! He owns a restaurant so he knows lots of people who need my services.

In fact, this is kind of funny--the restaurant is in La Puente, and they all went to Workman High School. Recently I read an article by Jonathan Gold, the food writer where he says that Padma Lakshmi, Top Chef host, went to Workman High, "In the Armpit of the San Gabriel Valley."

Anyway, I'm tired, very tired today. No workout, I'll do all my rehab tonight for a couple of hours--foam rolling, posture work, hot tub. I think I'll do that yoga class tomorrow and lift on Saturday. Only 4 workouts this week; although I must say that my body fat is definitely going down and I'm going to keep pushing it as hard as I can--I like the visual changes more than I hate the scale not moving.

And, I had a spare hour so I went to my local thrift stores (no new clothes until I"m "done") and grabbed a bunch of stuff in tiny sizes, and it all fit. I actually got tears in my eyes when I realized I had fit into a 3. Pretty amazing--my Ann Taylor 2's fit great. And I weigh 140. Isn't that odd? The only other times I have been this small I was deathly ill. It's so bizarre.

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When I googled Padma Lakshmi's name for the spelling I found this article, and found it to be oddly touching...I didn't know anything about her background before, except for the Armpit part.
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Yay, congrats on your first paying gig in the training area!

Now you just have to convince him to make sure there is 'lighter' fare on his menu as well.
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Yeah!! Congrats on the first $$$!!!
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I've seen that story about Padma before also. Pretty cool, I think.
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Just sticking my head in to say that I have the stomach flu. Last week I thought to myself, Boy, I have all the signs of overtraining except the getting sick part.

Oh well. Did my last NROL FLworkout on Saturday. I've decided to go back to what worked for fat loss--fewer workouts and lower cals. I feel kind of mournful about not lifting heavy, but it's only for a little while. I did a bunch of reading and have come to the conclusion that I was doing what Leigh suggests for thyroid issues, maybe not as extreme as 800 calories, and that's what I'm going to have to do to lose scale weight again. I love the composition changes, but it's clear to me that I need to get the scale a little lower to be happy.

I'll be back when I'm not feeling so pukey. : (
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