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Old 06-17-2008, 11:28 AM   #241 (permalink)
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Marty, I just wanted to echo what others have been saying ... thank you for your candidness in discussing your experience with REPAIR. Educational, entertaining, and strikes a chord.
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Marty, I just wanted to echo what others have been saying ... thank you for your candidness in discussing your experience with REPAIR. Educational, entertaining, and strikes a chord.
Thanks Julie! Your support has meant a lot to me throughout the process.

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This is definitely oriented to the younger set - but I found a lot of rationality and fun in this book (I hope to give it to one of my high school runners this summer):

Body Drama, by Nancy Redd (former Miss USA pageant woman)

Marty, thanks for the continued updates - I am just finishing my first week of Activity! Two more weeks of increase and then its stuff da face time.
Andrea, thanks for checking in! I have been wondering how you are doing. Sweet - you must have been so excited to do some running.

I just ordered that book! This is actually just the kind of thing I need. Whever I set a goal, weight-wise or body-wise, and meet it, I just set another one. Nothing is ever good enough. I think this book looks great.

Yay stuff da face time!! I'm a little nervous, and a lot excited. LOL

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We are big fans of melatonin here. It definitely helps me get enough sleep in. I was struggling with my mind keeping me up, when my body was done.
Glad the meeting went well with the MIL/Parents.
Isn't that stuff great? It works, and with no "hangover." I guess Rozerum (which is the smack I'm weaning myself off of) just increases the amount of melatonin. I liked it, but it's time for it to go.
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:55 AM   #243 (permalink)
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Good. Lisa's 6pm-6pm plan has helped SO MUCH. I won't post the numbers because I'm too lazy to look up two days, but the calories were spot on and the macros very close. This is with estimating the calories in cheese blitzes (MIL) and strawberry pie (my mom), but hopefully I got it close.
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Activity:
Aerobic Day #1

Warm-up - A little stretching
2.5 mile run outside (30 minutes)
Cool-down - half mile walk back to office, mobility work

The run felt tough near the end, which was a little discouraging. No big deal, though.

Food:
6pm yesterday through 6pm today:
2139 calories
52g fat
257g carbs/35g fiber (sweet potato, pita, bread, banana for starch)
174g protein
3g booze (ordered wine at dinner and it tasted like cat pee, so I didn't finish it)

Sleep: About 7.5 hours. 2mg melatonin.

Water/Potassium/sodium: I think all good.

Probiotics/enzymes/fish oil/multivitamin/BCAAs: Check.

Emotionally: Feeling happy and upbeat. Wishing that MIL would leave the house on occasion so that I could be really, truly ALONE for like 5 minutes. Instead I just take a lot of baths.

Next week I am consulting the big guns: my lady doctor and Leigh regarding my amenorrhea (lady doctor) and plans for after REPAIR (Leigh). I am starting to come up with a timeline of the eating disorder for the doctor, i.e., when I started losing weight, how much I was eating and exercising during my "maintenance", REPAIR, etc. I am also coming up with a list of questions for the lady doctor. So far I have:

1) If I want to fix this, I am probably supposed to avoid strenuous exercise, right? What would be considered too strenuous? If I train for a half-marathon, but actually rest and eat enough to support it? What about training for a sprint triathlon? What about action hero style circuit workouts? (Again, resting and eating enough to support said exercise.)

2) If I want to fix this, I am probably not supposed to eat in a deficit, right? So is there anything I should be eating more or less of? I've read that you need to eat enough fat to support hormone levels. How much fat should I eat? Also, I'm a vegetarian plus fish and haven't had red meat since 1999. I've read that vegetarians tend to have this problem more than meat-eaters, and that experts think red meat could help, though they don't know why. Would you recommend trying to eat red meat?

Anyhoo. That's what I have so far.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:21 PM   #245 (permalink)
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No answers, but you've come up with great questions. Hopefully others with wisdom will chime in here...
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Ugh, crappy wine is the worst! I hate 99% of the red wines I try, so I know the eww gross wine feeling all too well. I do keep trying them, tho

I hope you're able to get your questions answered. I know how frustrating this as I'm sort of in the same boat now. No missing AF, but now my Iron levels are probably so low we shouldn't try for awhile. It's a very frustrating thing when you feel like you're working so hard to get the body you want, but your body isn't happy with you. I think compiling a list is an awesome idea. Make sure to take it in the dr with you. I always forget my questions and have to have the list handy! I'm mighty forgetful like that.
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Yeah those are some tough questions. I am sure your doctors will give you good answers. Good job on the run.
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glad it helped.
you can send any leftover blintzes or pie this direction
I'm making a strawberry rhubarb one this weekend.

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No answers, but you've come up with great questions. Hopefully others with wisdom will chime in here...
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Ugh, crappy wine is the worst! I hate 99% of the red wines I try, so I know the eww gross wine feeling all too well. I do keep trying them, tho

I hope you're able to get your questions answered. I know how frustrating this as I'm sort of in the same boat now. No missing AF, but now my Iron levels are probably so low we shouldn't try for awhile. It's a very frustrating thing when you feel like you're working so hard to get the body you want, but your body isn't happy with you. I think compiling a list is an awesome idea. Make sure to take it in the dr with you. I always forget my questions and have to have the list handy! I'm mighty forgetful like that.
Me too! I'll have to email it to myself. That way I can have a backup from my phone if I forget! LOL

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Ooh I love Strawberry and rhubarb pie. YUM.

I may need to break out the cheesecake book this weekend and make a strawberry rhubarb cheesecake!
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Ooh I love Strawberry and rhubarb pie. YUM.

I may need to break out the cheesecake book this weekend and make a strawberry rhubarb cheesecake!
Make it stooooooooop!!
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Activity:
Aerobic Day #2

Warm-up - Warm-up from Cathe's KickMax DVD
Combinations 1-4, plus 2 and 3 again, from the DVD (about 30-35 minutes)
Cool-down - Mobility Work

Stretching and foam rolling later that night

This was my first time doing a workout DVD (other than yoga) since Tae Bo circa 1997. I enjoyed it a lot; it was nice to get some variety from running and the elliptical. Hopefully I'll get better as time goes on.

Note to self: SHUT THE DOOR to the exercise room if you don't want your mother-in-law coming downstairs and seeing you flail around attempting to kickbox in your bra and shorts. (I was all sweaty and it was hot.) Very embarrassing.

Food:
6pm yesterday through 6pm today:
2148 calories
53g fat
267g carbs/38g fiber (bread, banana, dumplings for starch)
160g protein
5g booze

Sleep: About 7.5 hours. 2mg melatonin. Bringing it down to 1mg tonight. I will quit the smack!

Water/Potassium/sodium: I think all good.

Probiotics/enzymes/fish oil/multivitamin/BCAAs: Check.

Emotionally: Feeling happy and upbeat. T-minus 16 days until the siege is over.
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Ooh I love Strawberry and rhubarb pie. YUM.

I may need to break out the cheesecake book this weekend and make a strawberry rhubarb cheesecake!
Ooh - cheesecake. That sounds even better!

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Marty, I've been taking 1mg time released melatonin for over a year at bedtime and it makes me fall off *snaps* like that ... and usually makes me dead to the world for 7-9 hours. Is there a reason you want to stop taking it? I know you were taking roserum, which I can understand wanting to be off of, but why the melatonin?
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Yeah those are some tough questions. I am sure your doctors will give you good answers. Good job on the run.
In my own experience, the more you know about your own condition (just by being aware, logical, doing reasonable research), the more inane and unhelpful the doc will seem.

My last visit to a 'trusted' GYN resulted in them saying, "yeah, you need to address that bone loss - here, have some birth control". This was after laying out everything I knew about what had caused the problem and what I was hoping to do to fix it. They seemed to not care one whit about that.

Marty, don't be too disappointed if that happens to you. On the other hand, if it doesn't happen, great!

I also have all of the original published papers by the 'master' herself on exercise triad and amennorrhea - Dr. Rita Loucks from Ohio. PM me if you'd like copies. (In short, it is all about AVOIDING negative energy balance, not how much fat you eat, etc)

I'll post more ASAP....
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Andrea, thanks for checking in! I have been wondering how you are doing. Sweet - you must have been so excited to do some running.

I just ordered that book! This is actually just the kind of thing I need. Whever I set a goal, weight-wise or body-wise, and meet it, I just set another one. Nothing is ever good enough. I think this book looks great.

Yay stuff da face time!! I'm a little nervous, and a lot excited. LOL
Hi, back atcha! Yeah, I'm happy to run, but 9 miles per week is also hard... and soooo slow I feel. That treadmill gets stuck at 5.8 to keep my HR down and its a little frustrating to not do my normal 8:30 pace.

I'm getting in the foam-rolling about 3x weekly, and it HURTS, but I think that means I'm doing it correctly. I found this reference pdf:
Myofasical Release

So yesterday was my first day of Increase, and it was definitely weird because I've finally gotten calories above what a normal day used to be (currently 1695 and old usual/average was about 1500), making "finding" those extra food sources an interesting challenge, especially to get 50% carbs! I had to locate one of my previously stashed Clif bars in the middle of the day, have some extra yogurt, not plan every single bite around protein, etc...

Very strange, indeed. I am wondering if I should stay away from the scale from now until well after the refeed. What are you doing in that regard?

Take care, and thank you for the updates! Ask me any time for specific running advice, I probably have some opinionated response for ya.
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Marty, I've been taking 1mg time released melatonin for over a year at bedtime and it makes me fall off *snaps* like that ... and usually makes me dead to the world for 7-9 hours. Is there a reason you want to stop taking it? I know you were taking roserum, which I can understand wanting to be off of, but why the melatonin?
Hmm. Good point. I guess I don't need to stop taking it completely, it doesn't hurt anything. I think I will see how I do without it, and if I sleep okay, great, if not, I'll go back to 1mg and no biggie. Cool! Less pressure.

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In my own experience, the more you know about your own condition (just by being aware, logical, doing reasonable research), the more inane and unhelpful the doc will seem.

My last visit to a 'trusted' GYN resulted in them saying, "yeah, you need to address that bone loss - here, have some birth control". This was after laying out everything I knew about what had caused the problem and what I was hoping to do to fix it. They seemed to not care one whit about that.

Marty, don't be too disappointed if that happens to you. On the other hand, if it doesn't happen, great!

I also have all of the original published papers by the 'master' herself on exercise triad and amennorrhea - Dr. Rita Loucks from Ohio. PM me if you'd like copies. (In short, it is all about AVOIDING negative energy balance, not how much fat you eat, etc)

I'll post more ASAP....
This is a very good point. I need to not have all my expectations all elevated that said lady doctor will fix me up right good! At least she can give me the blood tests to make sure there's nothing else wrong with me, and I can make sure to avoid negative energy balance.

I would love the published papers, sending you a PM!

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Hi, back atcha! Yeah, I'm happy to run, but 9 miles per week is also hard... and soooo slow I feel. That treadmill gets stuck at 5.8 to keep my HR down and its a little frustrating to not do my normal 8:30 pace.

I'm getting in the foam-rolling about 3x weekly, and it HURTS, but I think that means I'm doing it correctly. I found this reference pdf:
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So yesterday was my first day of Increase, and it was definitely weird because I've finally gotten calories above what a normal day used to be (currently 1695 and old usual/average was about 1500), making "finding" those extra food sources an interesting challenge, especially to get 50% carbs! I had to locate one of my previously stashed Clif bars in the middle of the day, have some extra yogurt, not plan every single bite around protein, etc...

Very strange, indeed. I am wondering if I should stay away from the scale from now until well after the refeed. What are you doing in that regard?

Take care, and thank you for the updates! Ask me any time for specific running advice, I probably have some opinionated response for ya.
Yes! The not planning every single bite around protein! Isn't that crazy? And having to try to "find" carbs? It's insane. I'm glad you've got the calorie levels up!

Only three more weeks until you can run your heart out! Unless you were going to repeat REPAIR? What are you thinking now?

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Resistance Training Day #2

Warmup - Non-specific warmup from NROL4W

Squats 15/22.5s 15/22.5s 15/22.5s (stay)
Swiss Ball Jacknifes 15 15 15
Reverse Lunge 15/17.5s 15/17.5s 15/17.5s (stay)
Neutral-grip Shoulder Press 15/10s 15/10s 15/10s (stay)
DB Pullover 15/17.5 15/17.5 15/17.5 (stay)
DB Bench Press 15/12.5s 15/12.5s 15/12.5s (stay)
Reverse Crunch 15 15 15

Cool-down - Mobility work

Stretching and foam rolling done later that night.

Thoughts:
* Starting to get in the groove of this workout! It's challenging but not making me hate the dumbbell set.
* The other day I was having a conversation with myself in my head about what exercise was making my shoulders so sore. Then I was like, 'yeah, it was probably the SHOULDER PRESS'. Okay, I guess you had to be there. Anyway. Hate these!
* Feeling much stronger on the jacknifes and bench press.

Food:
These numbers represent 6pm yesterday to 6pm today.
2147 calories
42g fat
287g carbs/43g fiber (dumplings, bread, banana for starch)
141g protein
23g booze (happy hour tonight! Woot!)

Pre-workout nutrition was MIL's cauliflower soup.
Post-workout nutrition was nonfat Greek yogurt and blueberries.

Sleep: 8 hours. 1mg melatonin.

Water/Potassium/sodium: Good.

Probiotics/enzymes/fish oil/multivitamin/BCAAs: Check, except forgot BCAAs.

Emotionally: In a fabulous mood. Wearing a new dress today, and I feel cute and happy. Excited to get away from the house tonight and go out for drinks with a friend. I haven't seen my friends since MIL got here. Yay!
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Don't you wish someone could bottle that feeling and sell it to us when needed??
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Thought I would stop by and say hello. You guys have been talking a lot of lady stuff lately. There's not much I can add to that conversation.
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Looks like you're doing great and have settled into a groove, which is very inspiring! Have fun tonight. Girl's night out is always exciting!
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Did the 15-minute energizer practice from Crunch Candlelight Yoga before work. I love this DVD.

Food:
These numbers represent 6pm yesterday to 6pm today.
2130 calories
54g fat
277g carbs/26g fiber (bread, rice, banana for starch)
150g protein

Sleep: Crappy sleep due to last night's booze. 7ish hours, 1mg melatonin.

Water/Potassium/sodium: Good.

Probiotics/enzymes/fish oil/multivitamin/BCAAs: Check, except forgot BCAAs. Again.

Emotionally: Feeling very happy and positive.
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Always good to hear
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Did the 15-minute energizer practice from Crunch Candlelight Yoga before work. I love this DVD.
I like that DVD too!!

I have to follow the chick on the right though
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I have to follow the chick on the right though
Nothing wrong with following Natasha. I do have sort of a girl crush on Sara Ivanhoe, I must admit.
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Today is my last day of Increase and I thought I'd post my summary a day early since I am stuck at work bored out of my mind all day.

Increase, in review:

Compliance:
Workouts/Mobility/foam rolling/stretching: Done

Food: Calories were with 25 every day. However, this is the first phase where macros have really vexed me. I generally came in a little short on carbs and a little high on protein and fat. This got better once I started to plan 6pm-6pm "days" due to the MIL dinner planning difficulties.

Sleep: Great. And off prescription meds!

Water/sodium/potassium: More or less on track.

Probiotics/enzymes/fish oil/multivitamin/BCAAs: Good.

Results:
Physically, I feel great. I feel like a normal person. Like I eat a normal amount, exercise a normal amount, have normal "bathroom habits," don't have to pack sweatshirts with me wherever I go because I'm always cold. No more dizzy spells. No more feeling faint during workouts. I can sleep without waking up 6 times a night either starving or needing to pee, and I am off rozerum. I feel like this program has "fixed" me. The only thing that I need to still address physically is the amenorrhea, and that's just going to take more time to fix.

From a body perspective - I'm going to do another post about my body image, but I wanted to note that though I haven't been weighing or measuring myself, I feel about the same size that I did when I started REPAIR. Since I was 13 I have judged my weight by my how my Gap jeans fit, and mine are fitting very well - more or less how they fit 7 weeks ago.

I have also really been feeling the benefits from the stretching, mobility work, and foam rolling. All stuff I would have been tempted to skip before, because "it doesn't burn calories," but they make me feel so much better. And I feel like I'm taking care of myself so much better.

Emotionally, over the last week, I've gotten much more comfortable with not eating in a deficit. With actually eating what I burn. I've re-read the Maintenance Manual and am feeling good about what comes after REPAIR. ***Warning - Totally Geeky and Mushy Thought Ahead*** I caught myself saying to myself once, "I'm so excited for LIFE!"

Before REPAIR, life was not exciting. Life meant stressing out about going to book club because how the hell was I going to know how many calories was in that hummus or how many grams of alcohol the hostess poured me. That kind of thinking has a place in FAT LOSS, not for your entire life. I have lived thinking like that, adding up every calorie, since January 1, 2005, and I'm so excited to not live that way anymore.

Reset:

I can't believe I made it to the last week of the REPAIR program without quitting or modifying it or anything. I mean, I always intended to, I just can't remember the last time I ever actually finished a program.

I am pretty ambivalent about stuff your face week. Half of me is dreading it and half of me is so excited. I'm getting the party started tomorrow at brunch with the husband and MIL at the Signature Room on the 96th floor of the Hancock building. Any chocolate croissants in the vicinity had better watch their backs.

2567-3220 calories
The macro numbers are the minimum numbers:
57g fat
352g carbs (700ish calories from starch - great googly moogly!)
160g protein

I'm going to shoot for about 2600 calories per day. That's plenty, methinks.
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