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Old 06-12-2008, 09:33 AM   #211 (permalink)
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Monday - Aerobic Training Day #1

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Warm-up - Five minutes on ellipitcal, easy
30 minutes a little faster, with a little higher resistance, and no hands
Cool-down - Five minutes on ellipitcal, easy

Tuesday - Rest Day # 1

Wednesday - Aerobic Training Day #2

Mobility Work
Warm-up - Five minutes on treadmill @ 3.0
30 minutes running @ 4.8
Cool-down - Five minutes on treadmill @ 3.0
Ten minutes easy yoga

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I won't list the details for all three days, but I've been averaging about 2130 calories. I had one low day at 2050. I have also really struggled with the macros, coming in more at Zone-style eating than 55% carbs. I am getting some, but not all, of the starch that I'm supposed to (although I'm wondering if bananas count as a starch. If so, I'm golden).

This is hilarious to me. I spent my whole life eating carbs as 70%, if not more, of my diet. Then I started lifting and had to figure out how to eat protein and fat, all the while internally bitching and moaning about how much I love carbs and never get to eat them. Now I LIKE protein and am having a really hard time cutting it out - I love protein shakes, yogurt, tofu, and fish, and I don't want to give them up for bread, potatoes, corn, and other starchy carbs. Argh.

I need to be better about spacing out the food. I've noticed a bit of a hoarding thing going on where I starve all day and "save up" for after work since I'm not sure what dinner will hold with the MIL and everything. Then I have to stuff food in my mouth to hit the 2150 calories and feel huge. Not good.

Sleep: Fine all three nights.

Water/Potassium/sodium: One high sodium day, otherwise good.

Probiotics/enzymes/fish oil/multivitamin/BCAAs: Good.

Emotionally: Much better. MIL is very nice, and I'm getting used to having her there. I also finished my grad school application, which was really stressing me out, because I was having to work on it all the time I was home and felt like I was ignoring her.
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Glad to hear things are going well with the mil!
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Do the grad school before you have a kid. I went to grad school when my son was about 3 and it was tough. It's hard to tell the kid "go away, daddy needs to study" or mommy in your case.
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nice job on the workouts! I would count bananas a starch.
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Hello, just stopping by.

Looks like the eating would be a big adjustment, congrats on getting it under control and also for sticking with your workouts with so much going on!

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I need to be better about spacing out the food. I've noticed a bit of a hoarding thing going on where I starve all day and "save up" for after work since I'm not sure what dinner will hold with the MIL and everything. Then I have to stuff food in my mouth to hit the 2150 calories and feel huge. Not good.
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perhaps reset your 24hr "eating day" window. Instead of 6AM-11PM (or whatever) - call it 6PM to 4PM -- start it out by eating dinner, reckon it up and then plan your NEXT day's eating according to that plan.
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Do the grad school before you have a kid. I went to grad school when my son was about 3 and it was tough. It's hard to tell the kid "go away, daddy needs to study" or mommy in your case.
Hmm. Good thought. I'm not sure about the grad school thing. I applied because my job is kind of unchallenging and boring and I have to use my brain for something. The good news is that I could probably get most of my school work done at work (instead of spending the whole day on the internets). We'll see if I even get in!

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nice job on the workouts! I would count bananas a starch.
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Hello, just stopping by.

Looks like the eating would be a big adjustment, congrats on getting it under control and also for sticking with your workouts with so much going on!

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Hi Mel! Thanks for stopping by. Once again I'll confess to being a lurker in your log. Thanks for reading.

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perhaps reset your 24hr "eating day" window. Instead of 6AM-11PM (or whatever) - call it 6PM to 4PM -- start it out by eating dinner, reckon it up and then plan your NEXT day's eating according to that plan.
Lisa, you just blew my mind. That is a brillant idea. I'm starting that today!

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Hmm. Good thought. I'm not sure about the grad school thing. I applied because my job is kind of unchallenging and boring and I have to use my brain for something. The good news is that I could probably get most of my school work done at work (instead of spending the whole day on the internets). We'll see if I even get in!
You seem like a smart chick. I wouldn't worry. A grad school took me afterall and I call people chicks.
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Marty, I totally hear you on the hoarding thing. I do that too! It's bad because now I'm stuffed and I have almost 300 calories left and I can't imagine getting them in right now! My stomach has shrank so much since I started this whole thing. I dunno how I'm going to do the increase now. All that fattening stuff and starch sounds gross. Ah what a mess.
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Resistance Training Day #2

Warmup - Non-specific warmup from NROL4W

Squats 15/20s 15/20s 15/20s (increase to 22.5s if at home, stay if at gym as 25s too much)
Neutral-grip Shoulder Press 15/10s 15/10s 15/10s (stay)
Swiss Ball Jacknifes 15 15 15
DB Pullover 15/15 15/15 15/15 (increase to 17.5s if at home, stay if at gym, 20s too much)
Reverse Lunge 15/15s 15/15s 15/15s (increase to 17.5s if at home, stay if at gym, 20s too much)
DB Bench Press 15/10s 15/10s 15/12s (stay at 12s at gym, 12.5s if at home)
Reverse Crunch 15 15 15

Stretching, light yoga, and foam rolling done later that night.

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*I held a medicine ball in between my legs for the reverse crunch and felt it a lot more
*Jacknifes are getting easier; my muscles in my arms tire before my core, probably because I'm doing it after the shoulder press. Might try moving it up to after the squats

Food:
Lisa is a genius. These numbers represent 6pm yesterday to 6pm today.
2145 calories
50g fat
310g carbs/42g fiber (corn, pita, bread, banana for starch)
140g protein

Sleep: About 7.5 hours. Ditched rozerum last night, downgrading to 3mg melatonin. I'll try a week at that and then go down to 1mg or 2mg and see how it goes.

Water/Potassium/sodium: I think all good. Perhaps a bit high on the water.

Probiotics/enzymes/fish oil/multivitamin/BCAAs: Forgot BCAAs and vitamin.

Emotionally: Okay, I'm going to blather a bit here.

This week, the ghosts of the eating disorder are all up in my business. I am ignoring them and/or telling them to fuck off, but I can see them and hear them.

All right, now I am imagining my house being like Hogwarts, so I'll stop the ghost analogy.

I am having a really hard time eating at "maintenance," if that's what this is. Here's the thing: as a former fat person, I'm terrified of gaining weight, so I would prefer to eat in a deficit because that way I *know* I won't gain weight. The easiest week of this program for me, by far, has been Activity, because it was a slight deficit, but still reasonable food and reasonable exercise. I got to eat but knew that I wasn't going to get fat. It was easy.

This week, I'm obsessed with how much I'm eating and how much I'm moving. I'm constantly second guessing the activity multiplier I assigned myself, wondering if now I'm eating too much. And if I'm moving less now that MIL is here and she does most of the housecleaning and dog walking. Wondering if I should go for an extra walk or something. (I haven't, BTW.)

This is exactly how I felt during my 2-year-long "maintenance" period that spectactularly devolved into secret exercising, walking miles and miles before and after work on injured feet, pretending to eat food I didn't, and weird food rituals. Basically what I did was exercise like it was nobody's business and try to live in a slight deficit, so that I would know I wasn't gaining weight.

And that got me amenorrhea, a low body temperature, serious digestive issues, headaches, inability to concentrate, injuries, and obviously, problems enjoying life.

So obviously living in a deficit is not an option. I have to be okay psychologically with maybe being in a surplus some days, maybe being in a deficit other days, and if I gain a few pounds, just taking care of it before it gets out of hand. My obsessive, perfectionistic streak makes that difficult, but I'm trying. I am telling the ghosts to fuck off, and not starting to take extra walks or exercise more or eat less than the REPAIR program tells me to. It's just hard.

Okay blather over.
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Marty - I really respect you so much... the work you're doing is incredibly hard - and I don't mean physically. Those ghosts may always linger on the periphery of your life, but I have no doubt you will conquer them and never let them take over your life again.

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Marty, I totally hear you on the hoarding thing. I do that too! It's bad because now I'm stuffed and I have almost 300 calories left and I can't imagine getting them in right now! My stomach has shrank so much since I started this whole thing. I dunno how I'm going to do the increase now. All that fattening stuff and starch sounds gross. Ah what a mess.
Lisa - you totally blew my mind too. Brilliance!
I love this new plan! I feel so much more in control, and less likely to hoard, which is a good thing because tonight is something called cheese blintzes. I have no idea what these are, but I'm guessing they are a) delicious and b) not healthy.

The other thing is that I know I can get through work on minimal calories. But I can't sleep when I'm hungry, so I'd always hoard and then stuff my face before bed so I could sleep. Now I can just eat what I need to, and balance it out the next day. I love this!

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I agree with Bytsi. I love reading your log, because of your honesty and it really helps me with some of my own food issues that I think I have never before categorized as "issues", although they most certainly are.
It is a journey and you are doing well with it.
I'm in the middle of reading Metabolic Repair right now. Reading your log and some of the other Ladies around me gave me the gentle push to make the purchase.
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Do you already eat less on non workout days as opposed to workout days? If not that may help the gaining feeling. I never really thought about how hard it is mentally after losing a lot of weight as it being heavier. I can relate with you. I sabotaged my bulk by not trusting my workouts. I should have gained a lot more. I bet if you could just let yourself go up X amount of pounds and not worry about, then take a few weeks and focus on getting them back off it may help your confidence that you WILL NOT go back to they way you were before.

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I am having a really hard time eating at "maintenance," if that's what this is. Here's the thing: as a former fat person, I'm terrified of gaining weight, so I would prefer to eat in a deficit because that way I *know* I won't gain weight. The easiest week of this program for me, by far, has been Activity, because it was a slight deficit, but still reasonable food and reasonable exercise. I got to eat but knew that I wasn't going to get fat. It was easy.

This week, I'm obsessed with how much I'm eating and how much I'm moving. I'm constantly second guessing the activity multiplier I assigned myself, wondering if now I'm eating too much. And if I'm moving less now that MIL is here and she does most of the housecleaning and dog walking. Wondering if I should go for an extra walk or something. (I haven't, BTW.)

This is exactly how I felt during my 2-year-long "maintenance" period that spectactularly devolved into secret exercising, walking miles and miles before and after work on injured feet, pretending to eat food I didn't, and weird food rituals. Basically what I did was exercise like it was nobody's business and try to live in a slight deficit, so that I would know I wasn't gaining weight.

And that got me amenorrhea, a low body temperature, serious digestive issues, headaches, inability to concentrate, injuries, and obviously, problems enjoying life.

So obviously living in a deficit is not an option. I have to be okay psychologically with maybe being in a surplus some days, maybe being in a deficit other days, and if I gain a few pounds, just taking care of it before it gets out of hand. My obsessive, perfectionistic streak makes that difficult, but I'm trying. I am telling the ghosts to fuck off, and not starting to take extra walks or exercise more or eat less than the REPAIR program tells me to. It's just hard.

Okay blather over.
Girl, I am right there with you. I'm at 1882 now, and that's just for Prepare. I don't know how I'm going to feel when I get to activity or increase. I feel full and gross right now as it is.
I believe that I've read something about anorexics (not that we are, but I feel there's a mentality brewing here) that says that they get addicted to the hungry sensation and become proud of the feeling. Eventually they stop feeling hungry at all, and there's even more pride in that. Obviously, that's is not good for you, and I know we're not there, but I can see that now. Less than two weeks ago I was eating 200 hundred calories less and it was hard, and now I feel like I'd rather go back there than have all these calories. It's scary. Feeling hungry feels safe. You're so used to being hungry that it can freak you out when you're not. I felt so full last night that I thought I was going to be sick, and all I had was a regular sized sub. I just checked and I came in at 1600 yesterday because I hoarded my calories. I feel like even if I switch the time frame around like you did, there will still be some measure of anxiety around the calories. I dunno, maybe I'm blathering, but I wanted to say I feel your pain, but that I think that it's like the other stages, you will get used to it, it just takes a few weeks.
Having said that I think anyone who has lost a significant amount of weight remembers how hard it was to lose weight and how painful and deprived you can feel. It's hard to think about getting used to a number only to find out that it's too high and you're gaining weight now. Theoretically with the repair and the activity multipliers we should be pretty close to what we need and just have to tweak, but I'm so freaked about getting used to 2k calories and ballooning up and not being able to get it off. I'm already over what I want to be. To have to consider gaining even more - frightening!
I hope I'm not freaking you out more. I just wanted to let you know that there is someone else right with you, and you're not alone in having ghosts. No one said it was going to be easy. We just need to work through it.
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Girl if you read my blog you will see that I went through the same stuggles when I started my bulk. It took me FOREVER (seemingly) to gain even 1lb because it was so hard for me to eat. Some of it was physical but my internal deamons were loud and clear too. So take it from a fellow under-eater as well. You have to let this go.

Go ahead and eat. I made my goal an acutal bulk in order to get over this. I challeneged myself to put weight on and to get fat. You know what? It was the hardest thing in the world to physically put weight on when I was eating clean foods. Sure you can do it from real high fat, little value foods but I bet you cannot make yourself get fat even if you tried by eating with a bit of thought.
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Marty, your blathering is great. Feel free to keep right on with it.

I think many, if not most, of the women here have similar issues to some degree. Brava(!) to you for your openness.

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You guys - all of your supportive messages really helped me out this weekend! Thank you!

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Marty - I really respect you so much... the work you're doing is incredibly hard - and I don't mean physically. Those ghosts may always linger on the periphery of your life, but I have no doubt you will conquer them and never let them take over your life again.

Eat.

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First, thanks Bysti!

Second, I've been telling myself "Life's too short!" all weekend. (Cheese blitnzes and strawberry pie - but reasonable portions.) It really helped! Thanks

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I agree with Bytsi. I love reading your log, because of your honesty and it really helps me with some of my own food issues that I think I have never before categorized as "issues", although they most certainly are.
It is a journey and you are doing well with it.
I'm in the middle of reading Metabolic Repair right now. Reading your log and some of the other Ladies around me gave me the gentle push to make the purchase.
Ginger, that you so much for writing this. I really appreciate your support. I know that sounds cliched by I mean it.

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Do you already eat less on non workout days as opposed to workout days? If not that may help the gaining feeling. I never really thought about how hard it is mentally after losing a lot of weight as it being heavier. I can relate with you. I sabotaged my bulk by not trusting my workouts. I should have gained a lot more. I bet if you could just let yourself go up X amount of pounds and not worry about, then take a few weeks and focus on getting them back off it may help your confidence that you WILL NOT go back to they way you were before.

Keep the faith. Your doing great!
Thanks T!

I thought a lot about the eating more on workout days versus non-workout days and decided not to because a) Leigh doesn't say to and I'm trying to follow the program as spot on as I can and b) I think it might feed too much into the disorder. Exercise was what I would do so I could eat more and it became obsessive.

I think you're definitely right about letting things go TO A CERTAIN POINT and then taking care of it. Gaining weight isn't so much the problem, it's letting it go to 50 pounds. See, my other thing is that I've lost this much weight 3 to 4 times in my life and always gained it back. I'm scared that this time won't be any different. I have to be confident that it will, though!

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Girl, I am right there with you. I'm at 1882 now, and that's just for Prepare. I don't know how I'm going to feel when I get to activity or increase. I feel full and gross right now as it is.
I believe that I've read something about anorexics (not that we are, but I feel there's a mentality brewing here) that says that they get addicted to the hungry sensation and become proud of the feeling. Eventually they stop feeling hungry at all, and there's even more pride in that. Obviously, that's is not good for you, and I know we're not there, but I can see that now. Less than two weeks ago I was eating 200 hundred calories less and it was hard, and now I feel like I'd rather go back there than have all these calories. It's scary. Feeling hungry feels safe. You're so used to being hungry that it can freak you out when you're not. I felt so full last night that I thought I was going to be sick, and all I had was a regular sized sub. I just checked and I came in at 1600 yesterday because I hoarded my calories. I feel like even if I switch the time frame around like you did, there will still be some measure of anxiety around the calories. I dunno, maybe I'm blathering, but I wanted to say I feel your pain, but that I think that it's like the other stages, you will get used to it, it just takes a few weeks.
Having said that I think anyone who has lost a significant amount of weight remembers how hard it was to lose weight and how painful and deprived you can feel. It's hard to think about getting used to a number only to find out that it's too high and you're gaining weight now. Theoretically with the repair and the activity multipliers we should be pretty close to what we need and just have to tweak, but I'm so freaked about getting used to 2k calories and ballooning up and not being able to get it off. I'm already over what I want to be. To have to consider gaining even more - frightening!
I hope I'm not freaking you out more. I just wanted to let you know that there is someone else right with you, and you're not alone in having ghosts. No one said it was going to be easy. We just need to work through it.
Hi Jes! What you said about the anorexics getting addicted to the feeling hungry really struck a cord in me. I find hunger both stressful and reassuring - stressful because it doesn't feel good and reassuring because it's "safe," like you said. I wasn't anorexic, I was an exercise bulimic (this is one of the first times I'm "saying" this, wow), but I think the feelings can be the same.

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Girl if you read my blog you will see that I went through the same stuggles when I started my bulk. It took me FOREVER (seemingly) to gain even 1lb because it was so hard for me to eat. Some of it was physical but my internal deamons were loud and clear too. So take it from a fellow under-eater as well. You have to let this go.

Go ahead and eat. I made my goal an acutal bulk in order to get over this. I challeneged myself to put weight on and to get fat. You know what? It was the hardest thing in the world to physically put weight on when I was eating clean foods. Sure you can do it from real high fat, little value foods but I bet you cannot make yourself get fat even if you tried by eating with a bit of thought.
Karla, I think I've read your log from start to finish. You're my role model!

You're right that in the past, I gained weight by eating crappy foods. My diet is much, much healthy now (though not so much this weekend with eating my mom's and MIL's cooking, but normally). So things would probably be different. Another good thing to keep in mind.

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Marty, your blathering is great. Feel free to keep right on with it.

I think many, if not most, of the women here have similar issues to some degree. Brava(!) to you for your openness.

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Thanks Tina! Again it sounds cliched, but I really appreciate your support. Reading your message gave me a boost this weekend.
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You guys - all of your supportive messages really helped me out this weekend! Thank you!

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Marty - I really respect you so much... the work you're doing is incredibly hard - and I don't mean physically. Those ghosts may always linger on the periphery of your life, but I have no doubt you will conquer them and never let them take over your life again.

Eat.

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First, thanks Bysti!

Second, I've been telling myself "Life's too short!" all weekend. (Cheese blitnzes and strawberry pie - but reasonable portions.) It really helped! Thanks

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I agree with Bytsi. I love reading your log, because of your honesty and it really helps me with some of my own food issues that I think I have never before categorized as "issues", although they most certainly are.
It is a journey and you are doing well with it.
I'm in the middle of reading Metabolic Repair right now. Reading your log and some of the other Ladies around me gave me the gentle push to make the purchase.
Ginger, that you so much for writing this. I really appreciate your support. I know that sounds cliched by I mean it.

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Do you already eat less on non workout days as opposed to workout days? If not that may help the gaining feeling. I never really thought about how hard it is mentally after losing a lot of weight as it being heavier. I can relate with you. I sabotaged my bulk by not trusting my workouts. I should have gained a lot more. I bet if you could just let yourself go up X amount of pounds and not worry about, then take a few weeks and focus on getting them back off it may help your confidence that you WILL NOT go back to they way you were before.

Keep the faith. Your doing great!
Thanks T!

I thought a lot about the eating more on workout days versus non-workout days and decided not to because a) Leigh doesn't say to and I'm trying to follow the program as spot on as I can and b) I think it might feed too much into the disorder. Exercise was what I would do so I could eat more and it became obsessive.

I think you're definitely right about letting things go TO A CERTAIN POINT and then taking care of it. Gaining weight isn't so much the problem, it's letting it go to 50 pounds. See, my other thing is that I've lost this much weight 3 to 4 times in my life and always gained it back. I'm scared that this time won't be any different. I have to be confident that it will, though!

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Girl, I am right there with you. I'm at 1882 now, and that's just for Prepare. I don't know how I'm going to feel when I get to activity or increase. I feel full and gross right now as it is.
I believe that I've read something about anorexics (not that we are, but I feel there's a mentality brewing here) that says that they get addicted to the hungry sensation and become proud of the feeling. Eventually they stop feeling hungry at all, and there's even more pride in that. Obviously, that's is not good for you, and I know we're not there, but I can see that now. Less than two weeks ago I was eating 200 hundred calories less and it was hard, and now I feel like I'd rather go back there than have all these calories. It's scary. Feeling hungry feels safe. You're so used to being hungry that it can freak you out when you're not. I felt so full last night that I thought I was going to be sick, and all I had was a regular sized sub. I just checked and I came in at 1600 yesterday because I hoarded my calories. I feel like even if I switch the time frame around like you did, there will still be some measure of anxiety around the calories. I dunno, maybe I'm blathering, but I wanted to say I feel your pain, but that I think that it's like the other stages, you will get used to it, it just takes a few weeks.
Having said that I think anyone who has lost a significant amount of weight remembers how hard it was to lose weight and how painful and deprived you can feel. It's hard to think about getting used to a number only to find out that it's too high and you're gaining weight now. Theoretically with the repair and the activity multipliers we should be pretty close to what we need and just have to tweak, but I'm so freaked about getting used to 2k calories and ballooning up and not being able to get it off. I'm already over what I want to be. To have to consider gaining even more - frightening!
I hope I'm not freaking you out more. I just wanted to let you know that there is someone else right with you, and you're not alone in having ghosts. No one said it was going to be easy. We just need to work through it.
Hi Jes! What you said about the anorexics getting addicted to the feeling hungry really struck a cord in me. I find hunger both stressful and reassuring - stressful because it doesn't feel good and reassuring because it's "safe," like you said. I wasn't anorexic, I was an exercise bulimic (this is one of the first times I'm "saying" this, wow), but I think the feelings can be the same.

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Girl if you read my blog you will see that I went through the same stuggles when I started my bulk. It took me FOREVER (seemingly) to gain even 1lb because it was so hard for me to eat. Some of it was physical but my internal deamons were loud and clear too. So take it from a fellow under-eater as well. You have to let this go.

Go ahead and eat. I made my goal an acutal bulk in order to get over this. I challeneged myself to put weight on and to get fat. You know what? It was the hardest thing in the world to physically put weight on when I was eating clean foods. Sure you can do it from real high fat, little value foods but I bet you cannot make yourself get fat even if you tried by eating with a bit of thought.
Karla, I think I've read your log from start to finish. You're my role model!

You're right that in the past, I gained weight by eating crappy foods. My diet is much, much healthy now (though not so much this weekend with eating my mom's and MIL's cooking, but normally). So things would probably be different. Another good thing to keep in mind.

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Marty, your blathering is great. Feel free to keep right on with it.

I think many, if not most, of the women here have similar issues to some degree. Brava(!) to you for your openness.

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Thanks Tina! Again it sounds cliched, but I really appreciate your support. Reading your message gave me a boost this weekend.
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Mobility work
Warmup - 5 minutes easy on elliptical
30 minutes faster, no hands, higher resistance
Cooldown - 5 minutes easy on elliptical

Saturday - Rest Day #2

Food:
Good. Lisa's 6pm-6pm plan has helped SO MUCH. I won't post the numbers because I'm too lazy to look up two days, but the calories were spot on and the macros very close. This is with estimating the calories in cheese blitzes (MIL) and strawberry pie (my mom), but hopefully I got it close.

Sleep: About 7.5 hours Friday, 8 Saturday. 3mg melatonin.

Water/Potassium/sodium: I think all good.

Probiotics/enzymes/fish oil/multivitamin/BCAAs: Forgot to bring my stuff with me to my parent's house.

Emotionally: Introducing MIL to my parents this weekend. It's going well!
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30 minutes faster, no hands, higher resistance
Cooldown - 5 minutes easy on elliptical

Saturday - Rest Day #2

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Good. Lisa's 6pm-6pm plan has helped SO MUCH. I won't post the numbers because I'm too lazy to look up two days, but the calories were spot on and the macros very close. This is with estimating the calories in cheese blitzes (MIL) and strawberry pie (my mom), but hopefully I got it close.

Sleep: About 7.5 hours Friday, 8 Saturday. 3mg melatonin.

Water/Potassium/sodium: I think all good.

Probiotics/enzymes/fish oil/multivitamin/BCAAs: Forgot to bring my stuff with me to my parent's house.

Emotionally: Introducing MIL to my parents this weekend. It's going well!
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Marty,

How long has it been since the last time you gained the weight back? I too have had this problem 3-4 times as well. I have been within 10 pounds of my last weight loss now for almost 2 years. The 10 pounds now is muscle as apposed to fat. I think it does get easier to keep the demons away as the years go by staying close to the same weight. I think the biggest change for me Is I stopped dieting and just changed my eating habits and portions. I know I have that gene that if you look at food you gain weight, so now I just try to look at better food!!

Your doing great, just keep your head up.
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I continue to be so impressed with the way that you battle. You have reinforced for me the fact that for most of us, no matter our background or history, the psychological aspect of eating and fitness is much more important and more difficult that the physical aspects. What you write here is encouraging and inspiring, and I am happy that you do it.

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I think you're definitely right about letting things go TO A CERTAIN POINT and then taking care of it. Gaining weight isn't so much the problem, it's letting it go to 50 pounds. See, my other thing is that I've lost this much weight 3 to 4 times in my life and always gained it back. I'm scared that this time won't be any different. I have to be confident that it will, though!
I hear you on this. I lost 50 lbs and the I've been juggling the same 25 lbs for eons. I finally got back down for the wedding and gained it back on the honeymoon. I know my habits have gotten better, but you can go from better to obsessive and still gain the weight, it's so bizarre. I think this program has opened my eyes to a lot of things, and I know it's done the same for you. Stick with it girl!

Also, please send over some strawberry pie plzkkthx
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x2!! And send some of those cheese blintzes while you're at it, pretty please.
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Thanks Gabe. I'll be off all the smack soon enough.

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Marty,

How long has it been since the last time you gained the weight back? I too have had this problem 3-4 times as well. I have been within 10 pounds of my last weight loss now for almost 2 years. The 10 pounds now is muscle as apposed to fat. I think it does get easier to keep the demons away as the years go by staying close to the same weight. I think the biggest change for me Is I stopped dieting and just changed my eating habits and portions. I know I have that gene that if you look at food you gain weight, so now I just try to look at better food!!

Your doing great, just keep your head up.
Hi T! Thanks

It's been about two and a half years. See, I haven't figured out how to stop dieting yet. I counted calories every day for two years with the exception of the day I ran the marathon and my wedding day. Where you are is where I want to be!! I'll get there.

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I continue to be so impressed with the way that you battle. You have reinforced for me the fact that for most of us, no matter our background or history, the psychological aspect of eating and fitness is much more important and more difficult that the physical aspects. What you write here is encouraging and inspiring, and I am happy that you do it.

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Mel, thank you so much. I've read your logs (both of them) and am really impressed with how hard you've worked for your goals. (Not to mention your strength!) Your support means a lot.

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I hear you on this. I lost 50 lbs and the I've been juggling the same 25 lbs for eons. I finally got back down for the wedding and gained it back on the honeymoon. I know my habits have gotten better, but you can go from better to obsessive and still gain the weight, it's so bizarre. I think this program has opened my eyes to a lot of things, and I know it's done the same for you. Stick with it girl!

Also, please send over some strawberry pie plzkkthx
You are definitely right about this program opening up my eyes. Honestly, it came around for me at just the right time and, not to sound smaltzy, but it has totally changed my life.

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x2!! And send some of those cheese blintzes while you're at it, pretty please.
Oh these were so freaking delicious. Serious willpower was required for portion control!!!!
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Warmup - Mobility Work; non-specific warmup from NROL4W

Squats 15/22.5s 15/22.5s 15/22.5s (+2.5; stay)
Swiss Ball Jacknifes 15 15 15
Neutral-grip Shoulder Press 15/10s 15/10s 15/10s (stay)
Reverse Lunge 15/17.5s 15/17.5s 15/17.5s (+2.5; stay)
DB Pullover 15/17.5 15/17.5 15/17.5 (+2.5; stay)
DB Bench Press 15/12.5s 15/12.5s 15/12.5s (+2.5; stay)
Reverse Crunch 15 15 15

Stretching, light yoga, and foam rolling done later that night.

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*Jacknifes much better when done after squats and before the shoulder press
*I hate hearing my knees "click" when I do squats. Maybe I should try glucosamine.

Food:
These numbers represent 6pm yesterday to 6pm today.
2106 calories
56g fat
288g carbs/44g fiber (sweet potato, pita, bread, banana for starch)
139g protein

Going out to dinner tonight so I'm sure I can find another 30ish calories there.

Pre-workout nutrition was protein shake with 1/2 banana.
Post-workout nutrition was grilled tilapia and 1/2 enormous sweet potato.

Sleep: Hour nap yesterday afternoon, 9 hours last night. Exhausted from the big parents meeting visit. 3mg melatonin. Will try downgrading to 2mg tonight.

Water/Potassium/sodium: Good.

Probiotics/enzymes/fish oil/multivitamin/BCAAs: Check.

Emotionally: Visit went well! Just so tiring feeling "on" all the time. Feeling relieved it's over and glad to be back at work.

MIL started talking yesterday about how she doesn't want to go back to Hungary and I started to panic a bit.

I picked up some books this weekend regarding the psychological things I'm dealing with. I just finished Moose and loved it - it's a memoir of a girl who went to fat camp as a teenager. It struck a lot of chords for me. I'm reading Eating in the Light of the Moon now.
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We are big fans of melatonin here. It definitely helps me get enough sleep in. I was struggling with my mind keeping me up, when my body was done.
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I picked up some books this weekend regarding the psychological things I'm dealing with. I just finished Moose and loved it - it's a memoir of a girl who went to fat camp as a teenager. It struck a lot of chords for me. I'm reading Eating in the Light of the Moon now.
This is definitely oriented to the younger set - but I found a lot of rationality and fun in this book (I hope to give it to one of my high school runners this summer):

Body Drama, by Nancy Redd (former Miss USA pageant woman)

Marty, thanks for the continued updates - I am just finishing my first week of Activity! Two more weeks of increase and then its stuff da face time.
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