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Old 05-05-2008, 09:34 AM   #181 (permalink)
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Or not. LOL Seriously, I drink a couple of gallons every day and my (Tanita) scale will give me huge variances, even when taken one right after another. I just use it for the scale part of it these days -- at least that part is consistent and accurate.
Oh I sould cavieat my statement. The Ormon is very consitent if the water intake is consistent. I'vve heard the Tanita's suck from more than one person.
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Bytsi, congrats on the losses. Even if the scale doesn't move, you know you displaced some fat with muscle.

How the hunger going?
Still kinda hungry... went over calories last night, but at least the food was "clean"... and I did burn quite a bit - 1 hour karate before my lifting, and then I walked the puppy for about 45 minutes in the evening.

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Frozen cherries!!!!!!!! I LOVE cherries! Why have I not thought of them in years?? I'm going to buy some next trip to the store and try blending with some (unflavored) PP. Very cool idea!
I like 'em with vanilla PP... I gotta find some chocolate PP that isn't quite as grainy as the one I used.

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How was soccer? Did you dazzle all the other moms with your blingin' scale?
Ah, they're all so dazzled by my rippling muscles, they didn't even notice the scale (OMG, I can't even pretend to keep a straight face typing that one!!!)
Unfortunately, we (well, DD's team) lost both games .

Today, Pilates reformer for an hour after work... then karate.
I foam rolled twice yesterday, hoping to get at least twice today... it HURTS!!!! But that's good, right? I suppose it's like lifting - us masochists will do almost (ALMOST) anything if someone tells us it's good for us
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Thanks! My form isn't always perfect by the end... I think that my "advantage" is that I have more weight pulling against the bar (as in, my overweight body)... I doubt I could pull as much if I was 120#, ya know?


Today - S2 A4 - LAST TIME (til stage 4)...
Front squat push press -- 2x10 @ 55#. Barely finished - yikes!

Step-ups -- 2x10 @ 50# (2x25# db's).

1-point Row -- 2x10 @ 80# (2x40# db's).

Static Lunge rear foot elevated -- 2/10 @ 30# (2x15# db's).

Pushups -- 2/10 with my feet on a physioball. Wheeeee!

Plank -- 1 x 60 seconds, 1 x 60 seconds with "only" one knee drop. ARGH!!!!!!!!

Horizontal Wood chop -- 2x10 @ 60#.

And that's all she wrote. Off to soccer games (all afternoon)...
Can't believe you are already done with Stage 2 WOA! I feel so behind. I did 55# on one set of FSPP today and only did 8 reps out of fear, but it did feel awesome to do it really heavy! You are doing great though! Good to see you are feeling your success!
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Foam rolling is supposed to be great for you. My body's really tight, but I don't do enough of the foam rolling or stretching. It's actually the hardest part of my workout. I get bored. I did 10 min of stretching this morning and I'm proud of myself.
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Oh I sould cavieat my statement. The Ormon is very consitent if the water intake is consistent. I'vve heard the Tanita's suck from more than one person.
Ah, yes, I keep forgetting about the handheld Omron doohickeys. I have no experience with those.
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Holy hamstring. Y'all reminded me to foam roll and OUCH! Left Ham String and right across my left hip.....
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No kidding! I think I will bust out that foam roller doo-hickey too! that thing is painful but GREAT! (if that is possible?) But, like you said Bytsi.....masochists unite!!!!!

Great job on your workouts!!!

*PSSSSST* BTW- think I am going to join the bandwagon here and give TNT a chance?? you want in???? tee hee hee!
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Ah, yes, I keep forgetting about the handheld Omron doohickeys. I have no experience with those.
Please tell me about the Omron doohickey!!
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Ah, they're all so dazzled by my rippling muscles, they didn't even notice the scale.
I'll bet your muscles ARE rippling, Byts, with the numbers you throw around. You are one cool, strong little hamster-chic... in a weird way.
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Wow - lots to reply to (I feel so loved!!! )
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Can't believe you are already done with Stage 2 WOA! I feel so behind. I did 55# on one set of FSPP today and only did 8 reps out of fear, but it did feel awesome to do it really heavy! You are doing great though! Good to see you are feeling your success!
Don't be afraid of FSPP - I HATED it the first day, but now I think I might even miss it (but it'll be back and I'll regret saying that ).

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Foam rolling is supposed to be great for you. My body's really tight, but I don't do enough of the foam rolling or stretching. It's actually the hardest part of my workout. I get bored. I did 10 min of stretching this morning and I'm proud of myself.
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No kidding! I think I will bust out that foam roller doo-hickey too! that thing is painful but GREAT! (if that is possible?) But, like you said Bytsi.....masochists unite!!!!!
*PSSSSST* BTW- think I am going to join the bandwagon here and give TNT a chance?? you want in???? tee hee hee!
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I didn't fit in foam rolling before work today... but I'll do it later. I keep promising myself it won't hurt as much if I stick with it...

As for TNT... I just am not ready to go that extreme with carbs (yet?)...

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I'll bet your muscles ARE rippling, Byts, with the numbers you throw around. You are one cool, strong little hamster-chic... in a weird way.
Aw Sally... you're so nice ... us strong hamsters gotta stick together (I think I just made you an honorary hamster - in a weird way )

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Omrons suck
Omron's claim to measure (estimate is a better word) bodyfat via a small electric current that goes through your body. Fat and lean tissue conduct a different speeds, thus the estimate. BUT hydration status and about a million other things effect the results (last time you ate, last workout, even if you're sitting/standing/lying down etc etc). So they can sometimes be ok for trending, but they're not a good or reliable or accurate measure of body fat %.

We actually have one at work for people who are too big to use calipers on ()...

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Wide-grip DL from step -- 2x10 @ 135# .
I couldn't get the step today, so I used small plates (a 25# and 2 10#s on each side) to get the bigger ROM.

Bulgarian Split-squat -- 2x10 @ 30# (2x15#). -- a tiny bit wobbly today, not sure why...

Underhand grip lat pulldown -- 2x10 @ 130# -- Will this ever improve? I guess not til I come back to stage 4, right?

Prone Cuban Snatch -- 2x10 @ 10#. -- Felt those!

Rear lunge off step w/ forward reach -- 2x10 w 15# db's.

Ball crunch, reverse crunch, side flexion -- Did 'em, didn't enjoy 'em...

Prone Cobra -- I was running late, so... SKIPPED 'EM!

But, I did an hour of pilates reformer yesteday which works core a LOT, and then also did karate last night... In fact, he kept us so dang late that I didn't even leave the dojo til 9:30pm. Got home, foam rolled, showered and went straight to bed.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:57 AM   #192 (permalink)
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So busy yesterday, didn't get back online at all in the evening... breaking my addiction ? Nah!!!

Today's an off day, except for karate tonight...
The scale was UP today, big-time (2 + pounds!!!). My eats have been pretty good (not perfect, but good, and no worse than usual)... But I know TTOTM is coming soon, so perhaps I'm bloated...

I don't think I overate yesterday, and I know one day doesn't make or break it (even though the scale seems hyper-sensitive sometimes to single-day indulgences and under-eats)...

I may be able to add a touch of cardio to my days at work, at least sometimes... I should take advantage of it. Just gotta plan ahead and bring clothes, etc etc etc...

I'm kinda down today - the scale gets me upset even when there's no good reason and I can explain the "why"... I guess I just want to see a low number, even though I KNOW all the other things are more important and better measures... just been ingrained for a long time, ya know?
On a slightly positive note, someone put homemade oatmeal cookies in the staff room (and they look and smell GOOD) but I didn't take one and I don't plan to take one (or even 1/2 of one)... Gonna go get a gorgeous salad full of good stuff for lunch, and then I saved my shake for later in the day instead of breakfast, so I'll have it either before or after karate... along with whatever I figure out for dinner / afternoon snack. Didn't plan VERY ahead today, but... at least some of the day is planned...

Just bleh today...
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I totally understand how the scale can get you down. No matter how many times we're reminded that there are better measures, seeing that number go up is hard. Go back and look at your measurments from last week. If I remember correctly, all of your numbers went down.
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Bytsi--I agree on the scale thing--it's so hard when we don't see the results in number format (even though we know it's not the number that's the most important!) I'm sorry you're down--it seems like a down day for a lot of people. But rejoice in resisting the cookies!!! Hopefully in a few days that water weight will disappear.

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I'm kinda down today - the scale gets me upset even when there's no good reason and I can explain the "why"... I guess I just want to see a low number, even though I KNOW all the other things are more important and better measures... just been ingrained for a long time, ya know?
BAD SCALE! BAD!! How DARE it make Bytsi feel bad!?! Send it my way and I'll stomp it to bits. (Then you can't ever get on it again )

I know you are used to weighing often, but it wouldn't hurt to do it less... just sayin'...
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Bulgarian Split-squat -- 2x10 @ 30# (2x15#). -- a tiny bit wobbly today, not sure why...

I felt like these were harder this week too???!! weird?! wonder why?
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Are you measuring weight and bf? Reason I ask is that I am on day 4 of my cut. Yesterday my trainer said I am already starting to lean out. When I got on the scale this morning I was a pound higher than the days before. I measured bf though and found it to be down 1.5 lbs. So the bf measurement saved the day for me. The scale lies and so does the bf tool but together they sometimes help keep the other one more honest.
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Bytsi -as a chronic scale hopper I have found that weight fluctuates a lot in random ways for me. I've head people report that their weight comes down systematically... mine doesn't. Maybe your body is the same?

I've started tracking my losses using google 15, a tool that fits a trend line to your weight. I love it. I do my scale hopping, I put in my data, and google tells me where my "real" weight is.... it doesn't tell me anything about body fat, which would be better, but it's something and it helps keep the scale in perspective.
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I totally understand how the scale can get you down. No matter how many times we're reminded that there are better measures, seeing that number go up is hard. Go back and look at your measurments from last week. If I remember correctly, all of your numbers went down.
Thanks, and yeah... most (not all) of my measurements seemed ok... sigh...

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Bytsi--I agree on the scale thing--it's so hard when we don't see the results in number format (even though we know it's not the number that's the most important!) I'm sorry you're down--it seems like a down day for a lot of people. But rejoice in resisting the cookies!!! Hopefully in a few days that water weight will disappear.
The good news is - I did NOT eat a single bite of a cookie today. And my boss moonlights as a bakery-chef, so they were GOOD cookies. Not that I tasted them, but I sure heard about them from everyone else...

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BAD SCALE! BAD!! How DARE it make Bytsi feel bad!?! Send it my way and I'll stomp it to bits. (Then you can't ever get on it again )

I know you are used to weighing often, but it wouldn't hurt to do it less... just sayin'...
Aw Sally - you're defending me against the evil scale? How chivalrous! . I am just afraid that if I don't monitor, I'll pop on one day and see it up to my old fat weight... I can't let that happen, and since I'm STILL not sure that my food is on the right track, I do need to keep an eye on the damn thing...

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I felt like these were harder this week too???!! weird?! wonder why?
I have NO idea... my entire workout on Tuesday just wasn't "great" - I made the weights, reps, etc... I just wasn't super-excited-happy-psyched to be doing it...

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Bytsi -as a chronic scale hopper I have found that weight fluctuates a lot in random ways for me. I've head people report that their weight comes down systematically... mine doesn't. Maybe your body is the same?

I've started tracking my losses using google 15, a tool that fits a trend line to your weight. I love it. I do my scale hopping, I put in my data, and google tells me where my "real" weight is.... it doesn't tell me anything about body fat, which would be better, but it's something and it helps keep the scale in perspective.
I know my weight never seems to do what it "should" (no patterns, to gains or losses) - but I do tend to track trends... I'm just afraid this is part of an up-trend .

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Are you measuring weight and bf? Reason I ask is that I am on day 4 of my cut. Yesterday my trainer said I am already starting to lean out. When I got on the scale this morning I was a pound higher than the days before. I measured bf though and found it to be down 1.5 lbs. So the bf measurement saved the day for me. The scale lies and so does the bf tool but together they sometimes help keep the other one more honest.
Yeah, I am doing bf%. It's the ONLY thing keeping me sane while I do this, since the scale #s SUCK. My coworker is awesome, and does a 7-site caliper measurement on me every month... I was down 1% bf (over a 2 month NROLW period) so far...

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Karate was tough and VERY sweaty... I did well with food today, probably super-inspired by the scale being so mean this morning. I avoided the cookies, got my macros pretty good, ate mostly clean... In fact - here's my food today:
Breakfast: homemeade whole-wheat blueberry muffin & 1 oz beef jerky (for protein)
Snack: Greek yogurt & nut/trail mix (measured on food scale for portion)
Lunch: SALAD - dark green lettuce mix, mushroom, avocado, dried cranberry, egg, asian sesame vinaigrette.
Snack: Red peppers and chicken breast (leftover from last night)
Later snack (pre-karate semi-dinner) - multigrain organic crackers and beef jerky (LOVE that stuff!)
after-karate semi-dinner - PWO shake with protein powder, skim milk, frozen peaches

Total: 1523 kCal (slightly low, but I was trying to cut a few today)
Macros: 37 carb, 35 protein, 28 fat

I MIGHT eat a tiny bit more before bed, but no more than 100 kcals if I do... my goal is 1650 / 1850... but I might drop to 1600/1800 if the weight stays past my period's arrival...
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Hi, Bytsi! My scale was up this week and has been going up very slowly the past 4 weeks. I'm not too concerned because I know I am gaining muscle, but I am definitely keeping an eye on it... I really want to get my bf measured in an accurate way so I can track my progress that way. I may see if our local university has a bodpod.
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Maybe you should stay OFF the scale for a little while? Hide it from yourself? My trainer had me doing trending when I started with her way back when - I was weighing every single day. After a while it started to get to me and was affecting my attitude so she put me on "scale restriction" - no weighing for a MONTH - once I QUIT focusing on that stupid number I lost at a good pace. I was so focused on the PROCESS and not the RESULTS that in that month, I dropped 6.5 lbs!!!!
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Warning - philosphical book here...

I'm actually at my goal weight and in maintenance. I began STing for the first time this year and realized how beautiful muscle really is! I want to have the beautiful shapeliness that only muscle can bring. I am also thinking about osteoporosis and all that stuff that comes with being perimenopausal... So Tracey (DanceDiva) told me about NROLFW and I was hooked!! I started NROLFW to help translate my "skinny fat" into beautiful muscle!

I weigh once a week on SparkPeople (joined Apr 07) just to be sure I am staying on track in my maintenance range. At 48, it's too easy for the pounds to sneak back on...which is one of the reasons I had 30# to lose in the first place! I did increase my goal range a little recently to reflect my muscle gains. However, not really knowing my bf kind of hinders me in deciding what really is the right weight range for me.

Most people laugh in my general direction about my weight because it is so little. At 5'2" with a tiny bone structure my current weight range is 100-105# I am at 102.25 now. That said, I still have visible fat in my outer thigh (aka saddlebags), behind (you know the jiggle when you squeeze your gluts?), and some in my stomach. So I know that the fat needs to translate into muscle. I had a bf done once with calipers and I think they said I was 26, but don't know how accurate it was (1 pinch of my upper arm). So I'm curious to know what is really going on there.

However, I am seeing great definition in lots of muscles I never even knew I had and am getting firm overall. My husband is thrilled and very supportive of my gym and workout time!!

That said, I am searching for balance in every area of my life - diet (what macros are best for me), cardio (my own personal therapist/stress buster!), and STing. I am trying to develop a system, a lifestyle, that I will use the rest of my life. This is a commitment for me to live the kind of life that I want to live for as long as God gives me here. I don't want it to only be a short term project to reach a certain goal. It's a journey of self-discovery and I'm so glad to have found NROLFW and JPFitness forums to join me along my path!!!
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Hey Pauline - I would definitely do the bod pod if you can... I haven't found one locally yet, but I'll keep looking...

Today - I was going to do cardio and then start stage 3 tomorrow, but I ended up having time (and felt motivated) so... Stage 3 1A.

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I hate the bodyweight matrix! My butt and legs are almost numb now, but they hurt just enough for me to know how bad the DOMS is going to be...

1 arm DB snatch: 3x6 of 20#, 25#, 25#.

DB single-leg RDL: 3x6 of 2x15#'s, 2x20#'s, 2x25#'s

Bbell bent row: 60# (warmup), 3x6 of 80#, 100#, 100#

DB single-arm overhead squat: 3x6 of 25#/12#, 20#/10#, 20#/10#

DB incline bench press: 3x6 of 2x30#'s, 2x40#'s, 2x40#'s

Plank: 90, 60 (with one knee drop), 60 (with a couple knee drops)

Reverse wood chop: 3x6 @ 40#'s

BW Matrix: 3:09, 2:54

Thoughts: 1 arm snatch was fun!...

RDL I might've been able to go over 25# BUT my balance wasn't as steady on the 3rd set, so I'll leave it there for now.

db single-arm overhead squat - WTF!?!? I thought "easy" (and we all know what "easy on paper" ends up being!) -- so I picked up a 15# and a 30#. Put the 15# overhead, started to squat and almost beaned myself on the head! Switched to 12.5# / 25# and barely did one set! Down to 10#/20#. FELT them in my abs and everywhere else too...

BW Matrix. My earlier comment stands. Allwyn - if you are reading this... you are a sick man!!!
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:26 PM   #204 (permalink)
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Believe it or not I am actually kind of excited to try the BW Matrix.. :O
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Bytsi, where do you live that there isn't a bod pod nearby?
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Believe it or not I am actually kind of excited to try the BW Matrix.. :O
Yeah Elyse... I was too... til I did it!

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Sending you a PM Jane...



My butt is sore... I am NOT enjoying going up the stairs... and it's only been about 5 hours since I finished the BWM. Tomorrow and Saturday are gonna be fun
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My butt is sore... I am NOT enjoying going up the stairs... and it's only been about 5 hours since I finished the BWM. Tomorrow and Saturday are gonna be fun
HOOOOOORAYYYYY for DOMS!!!!!! IT's a good sore tho' ain't it??? I hope so bc I am starting to get skeeeeered by your comments missy!!! LOL
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Bytsi--great job starting stage 3...I'm scared of that BW Matrix also! I love seeing all those who have gone before, and knowing that they (you!) will just be full of great advice and brimming with wise words of wisdom by the time we get there...right? Keep it up!

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Some of us don't live in civilization! I KNOW there isn't one nearby me. Pretty much anything useful isn't anywhere near my home (except nature, nature, and more nature, which is a great trade any day!) Heck, even the closest Wal-Mart is an hour away (same goes for the mall, which is PITIFUL).

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Turns out Bytsi and I are almost neighbors and there is a BodPod nearby.

Bytsi....we will have to do lunch!
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Turns out Bytsi and I are almost neighbors and there is a BodPod nearby.

Bytsi....we will have to do lunch!
It is SO strange that we live so close... what a small world! We even know some of the same people!

PM me and we can try to meet sometime - that'd be fun
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