Glad you're feeling better, and bummer about the b-day meal.
For me...it's really a matter of figuring out how to fit treats into my day so I don't feel deprived. It's taken me a few weeks to get it...but it works now. I try to fit something in, even if it's not sugar, something I love to eat. Then once a week I have a cheat meal. That may work for me, but you have to figure out your own system.
I guess it's tricking your mind into thinking you're not in a deficit...lol Not easy to do! KUTGW tho...compliance is a biatch...srsly!!
This is why I rarely watch tv (I will tape/download so I can watch without commercials). Ignore the thoughts of food. You can be strong!
Yeah, we tend to dvr (tivo) everything now - so we skip the commercials... unfortunately, since my DD has her license, she now brings sweets and chips (aka trigger foods) into the house all by herself. Damn it!
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Oh man Cheesecake factory is the deamon. I love that shit too. Fortunately I get ill anymore from too much food and from sugar so it is great reason for me to not do it anymore.
I get sick from major overindulgence... but I wouldn't have minded trying to eat a treat in moderation...
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Glad you're feeling better, and bummer about the b-day meal.
For me...it's really a matter of figuring out how to fit treats into my day so I don't feel deprived. It's taken me a few weeks to get it...but it works now. I try to fit something in, even if it's not sugar, something I love to eat. Then once a week I have a cheat meal. That may work for me, but you have to figure out your own system.
I guess it's tricking your mind into thinking you're not in a deficit...lol Not easy to do! KUTGW tho...compliance is a biatch...srsly!!
Thanks Kristen - I do think I need treats (little ones) and treat meals... I'm not an all-or-nothing person, and if I can't have something AT ALL, I just crave it and also feel deprived and miserable and wonder why I can't just have what "everyone else" is allowed to have. I get into much less of a pity-party state of mind when I just allow for some treats, even if they're not "clean".
In reality, the Halloween treats aren't so bad, because they are portioned out around 50 calories-ish, so I tend to buy them year-round for when I'm craving chocolate. It's a LOT easier to eat one mini-box of milk duds (which usually has 4 pieces) than to count out just 4 and put the bigger pack away without going back for one (or 2 or 3) more.
However, today, 141.5. I'm gonna have to post my graph again when i have a minute - it's down overall but just a weird pattern!
Probably going to take today as my day off, but not 100% sure (depends if I go to karate tonight or not)...
Thanks Kristen - I do think I need treats (little ones) and treat meals... I'm not an all-or-nothing person, and if I can't have something AT ALL, I just crave it and also feel deprived and miserable and wonder why I can't just have what "everyone else" is allowed to have. I get into much less of a pity-party state of mind when I just allow for some treats, even if they're not "clean".
I am the same way. I just cannot deprive myself, period. I have given up trying. I did the 'One Big Meal' with an omelette yesterday, but I still had a couple of pieces of Halloween candy, probably 250 cals. worth--then before I went to bed I had some dried apricots and 85% chocolate. I knew I was probably ditching my deficit--although not going into a surplus--but I wanted it and I didn't feel bad about it. I would have felt bad if it was an all out binge, which is most likely if I was seriously depriving myself. I think I'm just going to have to accept sloooow progress. I'll keep plugging away being mostly good...but not starving myself. I know my body comp is changing little by little. I actually like the feeling of getting away with little treats while still making progress, even if it does slow it down. I am happier this way.
Kathy - I tend to want to eat like you do, BUT I really need to watch and make sure I don't kill my deficit. I'm NOT ok with it being sloooooooow... at least not THIS slow!
Just did 5 chinups with a negative on the last one, followed by 1 (and 1/4) pullup. Issue for me is I can't do both at the same time - I have to start with one and know the other is shot for the day... lol...
My weight chart from May til today... lotsa dips and hills and stuff, but overall pattern is still downward (and I'm not even freaked over today, unless it continues to climb tomorrow!)
Wow that is one seemingly random graph unless you stand back and squint. Then there is a nice progression downward. Seriously everyone should do this to get faith in the process.
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In reality, the Halloween treats aren't so bad, because they are portioned out around 50 calories-ish, so I tend to buy them year-round for when I'm craving chocolate. It's a LOT easier to eat one mini-box of milk duds (which usually has 4 pieces) than to count out just 4 and put the bigger pack away without going back for one (or 2 or 3) more.
See my problem was that I could never stop with just one bag. One would turn into two, then a couple of hours later the bag would be empty. I'm not saying that I don't occasionally have something, but mainly I've waited until my rest/maintenance weeks. The exception would be if I buy a single piece of something. For me there's just no point in buying a two-or-more serving pack. Costco had a 9-pack of Haagen Daz ice cream bars today... was so tempted. I've actually done well with them in the past (4 going more than 3 weeks) but I think I'll wait until next year until I risk it.
Anyway, just wanted to say that you've definitely got a downward trend there.
Wow that is one seemingly random graph unless you stand back and squint. Then there is a nice progression downward. Seriously everyone should do this to get faith in the process.
Thanks Karla... sometimes it can look random, but it's downward. That weird August-ish "blip" was my refeed week, btw...
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Great job on the chinups, Bytsi. The graph is a great reflection of your hard work and consistency over time.
Thanks Pauline. I don't always feel consistent... maybe what I mean is I'm not 100% COMPLIANT - but I keep on trying, so that does maybe make me consistent?
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See my problem was that I could never stop with just one bag. One would turn into two, then a couple of hours later the bag would be empty. I'm not saying that I don't occasionally have something, but mainly I've waited until my rest/maintenance weeks. The exception would be if I buy a single piece of something. For me there's just no point in buying a two-or-more serving pack. Costco had a 9-pack of Haagen Daz ice cream bars today... was so tempted. I've actually done well with them in the past (4 going more than 3 weeks) but I think I'll wait until next year until I risk it.
Anyway, just wanted to say that you've definitely got a downward trend there.
Thanks Anne... the graph has helped me a lot. I admit that there are times I want to reach for another mini-candy... but in general, it's easier for me this way. And since my H and kids will bring junk/crap/candy/cookies/chips into the house no matter what I ask, I might as well do my best to put something less-harmful in my path. If I don't have a 50 calorie chocolate treat (dark chocolate squares work too), then I'm likely to reach for something they brought in, and the calories are going to be much more outta control PLUS I won't even enjoy it as much... (or I could just say no? )
Today, 30 min on stairmaster, HR 70%ish... down 1/2# again to 141.
I think I am pleased with my progress in general. Here's a thought for the day on the mental part of losing slowly:
When I lose a lot (quickly), I get very happy, excited, pleased with myself. I'm so thrilled with it that I don't worry, as much, about losing more right away. 141 is GREAT, so I lose, for a moment, the focus / drive to get to 140 or 139 right away...
When I lose more slowly, I have time to really want it. I don't get as complacent, because seeing 141 for the 5th or 10th or 15th time isn't as much fun as it is the first time.
So... am I going to be more likely to maintain because in some weird way, I'm maintaining as I'm going down? (does that make ANY sense at all????) I'm having trouble putting my thought into words here, but basically, I'm not on that "wow I'm losing 50# this month" rush that some quick-losers get. I'm accepting my body along the way, living with it and getting comfortable (or uncomfortable) with it and the numbers as I go. So it won't be a big / sudden change that I'm not used to when I get to my goal... Will that help me do better in the long run??? I hope so...
Wow, gonna post but not sure that I expressed my thought well at all...
Thanks Anne... the graph has helped me a lot. I admit that there are times I want to reach for another mini-candy... but in general, it's easier for me this way. And since my H and kids will bring junk/crap/candy/cookies/chips into the house no matter what I ask, I might as well do my best to put something less-harmful in my path. If I don't have a 50 calorie chocolate treat (dark chocolate squares work too), then I'm likely to reach for something they brought in, and the calories are going to be much more outta control PLUS I won't even enjoy it as much... (or I could just say no? )
This is how I feel. I know that I am going to seek out something....so I am better off having something "better" for me then what my husband brings home, i.e. massive quantities of ice cream!
My loss has been very slow as well. I guess lately I am just happy to be sloooowwwly trending down. That graph speaks volumes!
Goals - to stop caring about the # on the scale. To get my bodyfat to a max of 22% (I'd love to eventually be under 20%). To be strong and confident and look awesome in my clothes. To NOT starve myself or torture myself with hours of cardio, to not fight a losing battle of lifting at the same time that I calorie-restrict and do lots of cardio.
I like your goals. I am reading everyone's logs to figure out what my goals are. I don't know my goals yet and I don't know my % body fat either.
Bytsi, when I was in my "big loss" mode, I was very happy with a slow loss. I think I averaged a pound a week over time. I figured my body was "re-setting" as I slowly lost so that when I got to where I wanted to be, I would stay there. I didn't want to play the lose it, gain it all back game AT ALL. I've been maintaining for over 1 year now. I'm still tweaking, but overall, I'm in the place I want to be and am determined to stay here!
This is how I feel. I know that I am going to seek out something....so I am better off having something "better" for me then what my husband brings home, i.e. massive quantities of ice cream!
My loss has been very slow as well. I guess lately I am just happy to be sloooowwwly trending down. That graph speaks volumes!
Hey Bree - glad you understood what I was trying to say
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Goals - to stop caring about the # on the scale. To get my bodyfat to a max of 22% (I'd love to eventually be under 20%). To be strong and confident and look awesome in my clothes. To NOT starve myself or torture myself with hours of cardio, to not fight a losing battle of lifting at the same time that I calorie-restrict and do lots of cardio.
I like your goals. I am reading everyone's logs to figure out what my goals are. I don't know my goals yet and I don't know my % body fat either.
Thank you for welcomeing me.
I like your goals too - are you going to join the next challenge in January? It'd be fun for ya!
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Bytsi, when I was in my "big loss" mode, I was very happy with a slow loss. I think I averaged a pound a week over time. I figured my body was "re-setting" as I slowly lost so that when I got to where I wanted to be, I would stay there. I didn't want to play the lose it, gain it all back game AT ALL. I've been maintaining for over 1 year now. I'm still tweaking, but overall, I'm in the place I want to be and am determined to stay here!
Body resetting - what a great way to phase it - exactly what I meant!
Today 141# again. Which is good cuz I had a bit of a salty/crunchy attack last night. I haven't had one for about a week, and I didn't do major damage... just keep plugging along... At least I went to karate first, so I might've evened out the damage that way.
My knee didn't hurt and my neck is doing better so...
Today: Power Training Workout A (start of week 7 DO-OVER)
Explosive - Hang Power Clean - skipped (no good excuse, just did other warmup stuff first and was short on time today)
Did 3 sets on almost everything today instead of 4 - time issues
Bilateral Knee Dominant -Back Squats - haven't done these in FOREVER but feeling inspired, so I did 'em. 8x45#, 8x65#, 8x85#. I really focused on getting deep (I was at least parallel, maybe a little lower, but as low as my body will let me for now without losing all form). Only GM'd a tiny bit on the last one, as far as I can tell...
Hi Bytsi! Glad to see you're feeling better and back to your workouts. I love your graph. You really are losing over time. It's just those up and down blips that can make or break your day. I feel the same way with that damn scale. I love Pauline's take on "body resetting"!
Wow, Bytsi! That was quite a workout plan!! No wonder you had to skip stuff due to time. That was a lot of reps of different things!!
That was just Power Training, Pauline... it does take a while to get through it.
And my quads are DEAD today. OMG, doing the toilet-flop, can't get up and walk, can't do steps... I REALLY need to keep doing squats more often!!!!
So... the long-awaited birthday pigout happend . I did have about 150 or so calories leftover from today that I didn't eat in preparation for tonight... I used 'em up and then some!
We ended up going back to Cheesecake Factory (my gf's bday was this week and she loves that place too). H and I shared some calamari, then I had my fave salad, then we ordered tiramisu and the pumpkin-pecan cheesecake. I actually preferred the tiramisu to that flavor of cheesecake (not crazy about the pecans in goop part of it)... I'm sure I ate a TON of calories overall... and yet, when I think of how I ate in my 20's, when I was fat -- we'd have had 2 appetizers (at least), a big huge fatty dinner, and then finished the desserts (we had extra cheesecake that we left behind).
Then we went to see Religulous. Great movie, although a tad too long and the ending changed the tone a bit... I laughed so much for the first 3/4 of the movie, and it generated some good conversation too... definitely worth seeing if you're not easily offended. My gf and her H bought popcorn and candy (we never do that) and I had a few handfuls of that deliciously salty popcorn...
I do NOT want to see the scale tomorrow (but I might still weigh in out of habit and for scientific charting purposes ).
However, mentally, it is probably a VERY good thing for me to just let loose and eat every once in a while. Plus, hopefully, this achieves some hormone reset, although it wasn't just a carb meal...
Whatever - it was fun and my loose jeans are tight now
Good, bad, or indifferent I'd weigh in. You know it's likely going to be up so it's no big deal, right? Glad you had a good evening out though.
So... yeah... I weighed in
143.
I haven't been that high since the beginning of the month... wow. That's TWO pounds overnight, from one big meal. Impressive, eh?
You'll hate me for eating an entire bag of extra-salted popcorn (yep, added nearly a spoonful of salt to already salty popcorn) as well as a hyoooooge amt of white caramel-filled chocolate at Friday night and weighing in 0.4kg lighter the next day.
Did have an instant headache because of the dehydration.. but the big stunner was this morning. Totalling 2900 kcal for yesterday (including the Friday night's indiscretions, yeah I'm weird and count my carbs towards the next lifting day)... and NO change.
It's so weird. This would totally have made me gain way over 2 kg int he past. But now.. nothing , zilch nada. Must be the time of month when no matter how crappy you eat, weight just goes down.. vice versa, 10 days from now it will be the reverse. No matter how 'clean' I eat.. weight will be up ... sooo frigging funny.
Barging in here because I saw your weight graph and wondered if you ever made a 30d rolling average? If you had done it, it would have been nearly linear for you.. your wt loss is really very commendable even though you seem to be beating yourself up on it so often.
I'm truly happy you're more at peace now, but seeing you report in today makes me wonder you might need even more peace of mind? Let me tell you.. daily weighing AND charting everything and then only looking at monthly averages takes all the worryworting out of it.
Hi Espi - don't take my post today as a freak-out - it wasn't. Just reporting the numbers... cardio was planned already - I wasn't doing it in response to the scale numbers...
My biggest concern is that it not take a month to remove the 2# again - hopefully they'll drop off in a day or 2...
Did 60 min stairmaster today, HR 65-70%... just chilled and read a magazine and covered 4.25 miles of steps (according to the readout).
My thighs / quads are SOOO sore still, so I'm gonna try to walk around more later today... when I'm still for too long I can't stand back up!
I was just a bit worried for/about you since you're a bit too self-criticizing at times while you really do sooo well!
If this is any consolation to you.. back in the days I'd respons with a freakish weight jump of 3 kg (6.6 lbs) after doing a carb up, 2 kg would be gone 2 days later as soon as I started exercising (cycling & lifting) but alas, the last one would take the entire week and I'd end at the very same weight the next refeed came around.
Too bad it took so long before I figured out that weekly refeeds weren't working for me and eating more twice a week would.. this didn't necessarily need to be a real carb up, just more food in general. One of the reasons it took me so long was that I absolutely refused to weigh & track my food. It may have been too much or it may have been not enough.. probably both (as confusing as it may sound) since it was too little on the days I did crazy amounts of exercise (think cycling 200 mi in 1 day and eating less than 1000kcal on that day) and too much a few days later (raiding the cupboards/fridge etc.). Not good.. not good at all.
Hi ya Bytsi! Just wanted to pop in and say hi
Looks like your workouts are still going good! I haven't been on here in a while....so to see all of you "sudden" weight loss and progess is HUGE! GOOD FOR YOU!!!!! I am so proud of you sticking with it. Anyhoo, I ended up moving so these last two months have been HORRIBLE for working out and eating....and stress, travel with 2 kiddos, etc, etc.....and thus my result is 8 lb weight gain! OUCH !!!! I have taken off 4 so far, but obviously have been working out a lot here to get the other 4-5 lbs off too. I have been catching up with you on your log.....but GEEZ! it's million pages! haha How about the cliff notes version of how you have been doing?? hehe
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Dinner sounds wonderful. I'm a huge fan of tiramisu. Oh, and of deliciously salty popcorn. I'm glad to hear that you were finally able to enjoy your b-day dinner
Your progression chart is really great. It really puts things into perspective when you look at it in the long-run.
You know it is refreshing to see the attitude about the weight and the food. You are definately making progress in that department! It seems like just yesterday when that would have been a freak out and then a long cardio (punishment) session.
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One of the reasons it took me so long was that I absolutely refused to weigh & track my food. It may have been too much or it may have been not enough.
One reason I did NOT freak was because I have that nice chart that has added up over the past months, to help me see that weight goes up and down and up and down, but overall more down than up (for me)... Weighing, tracking - for someone like me, it's a good thing.
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Hi ya Bytsi! Just wanted to pop in and say hi
Looks like your workouts are still going good!
Hey Nik - welcome back! Got your PM, will reply when I get an actual real minute to sit down and catch up
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Dinner sounds wonderful. I'm a huge fan of tiramisu. Oh, and of deliciously salty popcorn. I'm glad to hear that you were finally able to enjoy your b-day dinner
Your progression chart is really great. It really puts things into perspective when you look at it in the long-run.
Dinner was so yummy, and I definitely enjoyed it. The chart helps me a lot - definitely...
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You know it is refreshing to see the attitude about the weight and the food. You are definately making progress in that department! It seems like just yesterday when that would have been a freak out and then a long cardio (punishment) session.
Thanks Karla, I think I've made progress too
Weight is ALMOST back down - 141.5 this morning... I didn't eat a lot yesterday, but didn't starve myself either. I think it was a good balance, actually... focused on protein to keep the hungries to a minimum... I went to bed hungry last night, but it's ok cuz I had a good healthy well-planned dinner, and I handled the growling tummy.
Plan to lift after work today, and probably (maybe) go to karate. Well, since DH tested for his green belt on Saturday and will find out tonight if he passed, I guess I should be a good supportive wifey and go
Good for you having your splurge and not freaking out! Those carb lbs come on fast and leave eventually. I have a similar problem, the other night I was attacked by some pumpkin bread and I was 3lbs heavier in the AM! Stupid pumpkin bread....
I'm glad to see the weight is going back down. Sounds like you had a super weekend/make up birthday dinner. The cheesecakes sound delicious!
Thanks Jes. The tiramisu H ordered was great... I shoulda had a different (non-pecan) cheesecake though... oh well - live and learn
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Yay, I'm glad you enjoyed your birthday dinner! I mean, what's the point of all this hard work if you can't have an occasional splurge?
Good point
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Good for you having your splurge and not freaking out! Those carb lbs come on fast and leave eventually. I have a similar problem, the other night I was attacked by some pumpkin bread and I was 3lbs heavier in the AM! Stupid pumpkin bread....
Oh noes - not the dreaded attack of the pumpkin bread
I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS!!!