A new low for me by 1# !!!!
yes, it'll probably bounce, but it sure helps with the trending, and definitely reinforced me passing up the brownies and going to bed a little (lot?) hungry last night.
Today is a rest day, so I might try to keep the kcals a bit low (we'll see)...
The more I read about 6 meals vs 3 meals vs IF, I realize that I don't really need to eat every 2-3 hours. I can handle being a bit hungrier earlier in the day - that's just my natural tendency. I struggle in the evening regardless of how much I ate earlier, so I might as well refrain at the times when it's relatively easier. I'm not skipping breakfast or anything like that - just saving a little more kcals for when I know I will want them later in the day.
congrats on the weight this morning and ouchie on that bruise!
I am the same with the 6 meal thing. I could and have done it, but it isn't necessary for me. I would rather have some room for the evening and if I need to use the calories I do, if I am dealing o.k. - then I roll with it.
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Good job with the ladies night! Those desserts sound tempting!
That bruise looks crazy. I'm glad it's starting to feek better.
Hooray for the new low! Even if you think it will go back up. It's still fun to see those lower numbers.
About the artificial sweeteners...I can't use them either. I break out in hives. Big, splotchy, itchy hives. And they leave a bit of a metalic taste in my mouth. If I need anything to be sweet, I use sugar or honey. And I always buy things without sweenteners in them. That, along with the rest of my food allergies, make shopping a real chore. But, in the end, I know I'm eating natural foods, which really do taste better anyway! Good luck!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is awesome. Talk about reinforcement of good eating habits!
I don't know how you resisted all that stuff. It would kill me. I have some evil things left in my house from the party this weekend and it is torture. The less I have, the less I want, but it's still tough.
Sounds like a breakthrough is imminent! You've done so well so far - keep on tweaking, and I look forward to following your progress. How much more do you have to lose? Isn't it supposed to be harder as you get closer?
Thanks Carol! I have 8.5# as of today, but my goal may readjust once I get there... I'm 5' 2.5" and my goal is 135# (I do tend to carry pretty good muscle under all my fat, I think)... that'll get me comfortably back into my 4's (all of 'em, not just the vanity-sized ones ), and hopefully remove enough of the back-flab that I can wear my smaller shirts again... Then we'll see.
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Sounds like you're almost there...and also...YOU ARE MY HERO...you resisted caramel cheesecake brownies...that in itself is an amazing thing!
It was HARD. Looked SOOOOO good! But, I just kept thinking of how mad I'd be when the scale was up this morning... I still kinda sorta almost wish I'd had one. But then one might've become 2, or "well, I'll try a brownie or cake too"... Better to JUST SAY NO.
Oh - and when I got tired and pissed at DH (long story but he tried to fix something that wasn't broken and now we have a $1000 plumber bill and holes in our wall!!!), I left instead of giving in to the urge.
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congrats on the weight this morning and ouchie on that bruise!
I am the same with the 6 meal thing. I could and have done it, but it isn't necessary for me. I would rather have some room for the evening and if I need to use the calories I do, if I am dealing o.k. - then I roll with it.
Thanks Ginger... wish we could all just learn from each other instead of trying every method individually...
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YEAH!!! Good job on avoiding all the crap food last night. I'm with Anne on this one... Sheesh... Not exactly your healthy crowd of people, eh?
LOL... thanks! All but one woman there are pretty thin (not fit, but thin)... The one heavy woman was eating TONS of unhealthy foods, and in some weird warped way, it helped me to NOT indulge... I used to be her. I don't want to be her anymore.
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Good job with the ladies night! Those desserts sound tempting!
Hooray for the new low! Even if you think it will go back up. It's still fun to see those lower numbers.
About the artificial sweeteners...I can't use them either. I break out in hives. Big, splotchy, itchy hives. And they leave a bit of a metalic taste in my mouth. If I need anything to be sweet, I use sugar or honey. And I always buy things without sweenteners in them. That, along with the rest of my food allergies, make shopping a real chore. But, in the end, I know I'm eating natural foods, which really do taste better anyway! Good luck!
Thanks!! I don't get hives, and I used to eat crap all the time (11 years ago) and never had a reaction... but I'm older now, I guess .
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Muy awesome bruise (Do hope it heals up fast; I know those hurt.)
Mine all just look like fingerprints from the grabby guys. Usually not sure where they're from. No fun...
LOL Leslie... I always have marks on my arms from blocks and grabs... but this one will look AWESOME with shorts!
Every time I have an employment physical for work, they pull me aside and ask if my H beats me. I always have to explain that I do martial arts .
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Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is awesome. Talk about reinforcement of good eating habits!
I don't know how you resisted all that stuff. It would kill me. I have some evil things left in my house from the party this weekend and it is torture. The less I have, the less I want, but it's still tough.
Thanks Jes... like I said, it was HARD and I REALLY REALLY almost gave in quite a few times.
The scale is a HUGE deal this morning - If it had been up, I'd have cried, I think... just cuz last night was so so so so so hard for me to resist.
You should be so proud of yourself. I have such a hard time in with party food - I feel like I have to try everything! It's really difficult but rewarding to retrain that kind of eating and it sounds like you're doing a great job.
Bytsi, lots to catch up on in your log! Great discussions about metabolism, sweeteners, resisting temptation, even spousal abuse! That physical thing made me laugh, but the sad thing is that it's probably usually true...good thing you're Miss Karate and you could beat your husband's butt if he tried anything (or say, if he tried to be a plumber in his spare time...)
Hooray on the new low! You're so inspiring b/c this obviously isn't easy for you but you keep on going...great job!!!
The more I read about 6 meals vs 3 meals vs IF, I realize that I don't really need to eat every 2-3 hours. I can handle being a bit hungrier earlier in the day - that's just my natural tendency. I struggle in the evening regardless of how much I ate earlier, so I might as well refrain at the times when it's relatively easier. I'm not skipping breakfast or anything like that - just saving a little more kcals for when I know I will want them later in the day.
Hey, congrats on the change on the scale!
I think everyone has to find what works for them best. I used to think I could deal with being hungrier in the morning (light breakfast, no snack, light lunch) but by late afternoon I was famished. So for me, spreading it out works best. I do, however, always make sure I can have something before bed. So much for the 'no food after 9pm' or some such silly things. If I didn't have my snack and protein shake before I go to sleep I'd be standing in the kitchen about midnight, too hungry to fall asleep.
I tried the 6 meal a day thing too, and like you, find that I can handle being hungry in the morning or before lunch while at work because there is nothing here for me to snack on. Its when I am at home at night that I have a harder time controlling it so I tend to save most of my calories for later in the day. I know it goes against popular advice though. Find what works for you though, right?
You should be so proud of yourself. I have such a hard time in with party food - I feel like I have to try everything! It's really difficult but rewarding to retrain that kind of eating and it sounds like you're doing a great job.
Thanks - it is hard, and I have failed many more times than I've succeeded!
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Bytsi, lots to catch up on in your log! Great discussions about metabolism, sweeteners, resisting temptation, even spousal abuse! That physical thing made me laugh, but the sad thing is that it's probably usually true...good thing you're Miss Karate and you could beat your husband's butt if he tried anything (or say, if he tried to be a plumber in his spare time...)
Hooray on the new low! You're so inspiring b/c this obviously isn't easy for you but you keep on going...great job!!!
Thanks Celeste! My H takes karate too (but I outrank him ). Thanks for the encouragement!
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Hey, congrats on the change on the scale!
I think everyone has to find what works for them best. I used to think I could deal with being hungrier in the morning (light breakfast, no snack, light lunch) but by late afternoon I was famished. So for me, spreading it out works best. I do, however, always make sure I can have something before bed. So much for the 'no food after 9pm' or some such silly things. If I didn't have my snack and protein shake before I go to sleep I'd be standing in the kitchen about midnight, too hungry to fall asleep.
Anne - you are always an inspiration because you are consistent and strong - and you do so much (gardening, cooking!!!). I haven't woken up hungry from a sleep, but I hate going to bed with a growly tummy. Some nights I HAVE to just head up to bed though, cuz I know I'll hit the kitchen if I don't!
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Hooray on the scale victory!!!! I'm really hoping that this is the beginning of the downward trend you have been working so hard for.
Yikes on that bruise, girly!!! How is the leg feeling?
Leg feels much better, looks like hell . I hope this weight lasts (or goes lower) too! Still 143.5 today - whew!!!
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Great news about the loss!
I tried the 6 meal a day thing too, and like you, find that I can handle being hungry in the morning or before lunch while at work because there is nothing here for me to snack on. Its when I am at home at night that I have a harder time controlling it so I tend to save most of my calories for later in the day. I know it goes against popular advice though. Find what works for you though, right?
Find what works for each person - absolutely!!!
Speaking of what works for each... made up my own kinda stage-7 workout today. I was bored and didn't have my Coach Dos stuff ready yet, so... figured WTF, why not shake up my body with a shock of a workout. UGH!!!!!! I DO NOT LIKE HIGH REPS!!!!!!!!!!!
Chin-ups: bw: 3, 2 (I was mad - I did 3, 3 last time!!!)
DL: 4x115, 4x135, 4x155
Giant Sets: 4 times through of 15 reps each w/ 30 sec rest (a la NROLW's stage 7) Rear Lunge off step: 4 sets holding 10# db's DB Bent Rows: 1 set w/ 35# dbs, 3 sets w/ 25# dbs RDL: 60#s Pushups: Using perfect pushups - 4x12 reps
Then I walked at incline on tmill for 30 min, HR around 60%
Foam rolled at home
I'm gonna feel this one!!!!!
So many logs to catch up on... I'll start now, but I know I'll have to come back later to finish...
While I do eat 6 or so meals a day I generally eat less in the AM than in the PM though I do try to get my more processed carbs and fat in earlier in the day. Nighttime I eat HUGE salads with lean proteins and cottage cheese/fruit plates. Lots of cals in that stuff.
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While I do eat 6 or so meals a day I generally eat less in the AM than in the PM though I do try to get my more processed carbs and fat in earlier in the day. Nighttime I eat HUGE salads with lean proteins and cottage cheese/fruit plates. Lots of cals in that stuff.
Makes sense... I still wish I could eat cottage cheese. The older I get, the more sensitive my tummy seems to be...
That damn metabolically challenging workout SUCKED!!!!!! I have been starving all day!!!!!!!! I know I needed to change it up, but I'm not doing any stage 7 type stuff again til I'm off my deficit!!! My stomach is growling growling growling.
So far I'm ok for calories - and super-high on protein (almost 50%!!!) but... just starving so much worse than I have been since I stopped doing the HIIT and high-rep lifting workouts.
Guess I had to try it one more time to be 100% sure of how much hungrier it really makes me!
Ok, I survived last night with minimal damage... I did eat more than I had planned - hit just under 1700 kcals - but it coulda been a LOT worse. Scale stayed steady at 143.5 this morning - whew! I thought it might've bounced because
I AM SORE
Doms sucks. My glutes and hams are screaming (along with a few other parts, but they're the worst!) I dragged my sore tush to the gym this morning anyway and put in 45 on the elliptical with HR around 70-75%. I might hike later, but prolly tomorrow with DH (we'll have more time tomorrow, I think).
We have a choice tonight, going out with friends, either see "Tropic Thunder" or go bowling . I want to see the movie, but I'm thinking at least the bowling is more active...
BTW - Bugg said I didn't burn that much doing the high-rep short-rest lifting... it said I burned MORE walking on the tmill around 3mph with an incline afterwards... weird!
BTW - Bugg said I didn't burn that much doing the high-rep short-rest lifting... it said I burned MORE walking on the tmill around 3mph with an incline afterwards... weird!
From what I've seen from your comments it just doesn't seem to do well with exercises where you don't swing you arms. That does seem a little odd, doesn't it?
You are doing great, Bytsi. I know it is frustrating . . . Oh do I!!! I hate knowing how little I burn doing weights at times. But remember it will help so much more than treadmill. I am going to go for a Mountain Bike ride today - probably an easier one since it is a ride for beginners.
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From what I've seen from your comments it just doesn't seem to do well with exercises where you don't swing you arms. That does seem a little odd, doesn't it?
Yup - that's exactly what it seems to do - if the arms aren't swinging, it just doesn't think you're working hard. Even when I let go on the stairmaster, it doesn't think I'm doing that much!
Sad part is that I let it influence my choices and have been avoiding stuff that doesn't register as high . I'm SO pathetic!!!
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You are doing great, Bytsi. I know it is frustrating . . . Oh do I!!! I hate knowing how little I burn doing weights at times. But remember it will help so much more than treadmill. I am going to go for a Mountain Bike ride today - probably an easier one since it is a ride for beginners.
Thanks Vickie - it is frustrating but at least I'm (slowly) going in the right direction... hope the bike ride was fun.
Went to watch senior belt testing (I'm not testing again til November) and then met DH and we took DS on a little 45 min hike... it was fun. Planning a longer hike with DH tomorrow - I LOVE my walking sticks - they are teh awsym!!!!
I hear ya on the soreness. I am still sore from lifting on Wednesday, but I ran today because I couldn't sit on my duff any more and be able to justify it. I think it helped to do some cardio, but I won't be able to say for real until tomorrow
Great job on the party landmines and woohoo on your scale victory!
Thanks Pauline!
144# today, but I'm ok with it... I'm so sore, I have to be retaining some water here...
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I hear ya on the soreness. I am still sore from lifting on Wednesday, but I ran today because I couldn't sit on my duff any more and be able to justify it. I think it helped to do some cardio, but I won't be able to say for real until tomorrow
Yeah, 2nd day out sucks, but I hate when it won't go away even after that! I'm due to lift Monday (although I need to figure out when my last rest week was and maybe take one?) and I am SORE.
Planning some gym cardio, then a longer hike with DH later...
Just had to post this for anyone who needs a good laugh...
Yup - that's exactly what it seems to do - if the arms aren't swinging, it just doesn't think you're working hard. Even when I let go on the stairmaster, it doesn't think I'm doing that much!
Sad part is that I let it influence my choices and have been avoiding stuff that doesn't register as high . I'm SO pathetic!!!
I can understand that completely. I noticed when I first got the HR monitor that I would make a point to get my heart rate up as fast as possible when doing my cardio. You know, so it could be as high as possible for my 30 mins. I still pay attention to it, and may jog for a minute or two at the start of my walk, however, some days I'll just make it a walk.
I can understand that completely. I noticed when I first got the HR monitor that I would make a point to get my heart rate up as fast as possible when doing my cardio. You know, so it could be as high as possible for my 30 mins. I still pay attention to it, and may jog for a minute or two at the start of my walk, however, some days I'll just make it a walk.
LOL Anne! Glad I'm not the only one!
Today: about 55 min LISS at the gym - 20 min elliptical, 25 min tmill incline 6 (only about 2.8 - 3 pace), then 10 min on bike (for no good reason).
Then, afternoon hike - DH and DS. We couldn't find the trail entrance so we explored a bit, never got there til right at the end - finally found it but it was in awful repair - it was a STEEP (dangerous!) drop-off to the trail (which we could see about 20' below the entrance). I was sure I'd break a leg if we tried, so we just left. Walked/hiked about an hour though, so it's all good. Especially with my hams still screaming from DOMS.
I checked my log, and it's been 9 weeks since my last lifting rest week, so I'm gonna wait til either Friday or Monday before I start Power Lifting and call it a rest week. Then I can hopefully do the 12 weeks straight through before my next rest. I'll still do some chinups and pullups this week though...
Bytsi, stage 7 is HARD. Those high reps were torture after stage 6 and I had the same glute/hamstring soreness the whole first week. It did kill my diet/calorie plan and I don't know why I bothered to complete it except for the fact that I told myself that I was finishing one way or another since I could see the finish line from there. (I had entertained thoughts of doing it twice before I did the first workout, but those thoughts quickly flew out the window, LOL.)
I'll be haunting your log to read about your Power Training experiences !
Hey Karen - the leg soreness is SLIGHTLY better today... lol!
Normally I'd love a challenge like the stage 7 workouts, but not when I can't keep a deficit doing it. I'm all for finishing what I started, but I'm trying very hard to evaluate where I am, what my goals are, and what will be the most efficient way for me to get there. Stage 7 isn't what I need now.
I'm a bit cranky and I shouldn't let it bother me, but the scale was up 1.5# this morning - WTF!?! I did NOT overeat by 5000 kcals in one day (or even this past week at all!). I didn't overdo the salt, got my NEAT and workouts in... the ONLY "cheat" was splitting dessert with DH, and it wasn't even a big cheat, and I ended up 100 kcal over my usual 500 kcal deficit for Sunday (so still 400 kcal under!). Not worth 1.5#!!!!
I know - water, swelling, hormones, other crap that we can't even always measure... it just sucks. I'm 2# above my low point of last week now . Crap. I just wish the downward jumps were as big as the upward jumps seem to be... takes forever to go back down again, ya know?
Bleh.
No lifting today - week off, prolly start Power Lifting on either Friday or Monday (my usual lift days). Will continue cardio and karate... (karate tonight).
Bytsi, I know you love Karate and can't give it up but is there a way for you to give up the cardio for awhile? I am thinking that maybe if you can do that and cut back cals deep this rest week that it might help your body to stabalize a bit. I don't know much but do know that if I work out cardio at all right now the HR stays in the 135 range the other option isI work out for less than 30 min in the higher HR range.
Reason I am saying this is I know for a fact I could not keep up any sort of deficit with all the cardio you seem to do. It would kill me in more ways than one. My body would never recover and I would be miserably hungry all the time. There is more power in rest days (real rest days) than in any other thing we do I am finding.
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Bytsi, I know you love Karate and can't give it up but is there a way for you to give up the cardio for awhile? I am thinking that maybe if you can do that and cut back cals deep this rest week that it might help your body to stabalize a bit. I don't know much but do know that if I work out cardio at all right now the HR stays in the 135 range the other option isI work out for less than 30 min in the higher HR range.
Reason I am saying this is I know for a fact I could not keep up any sort of deficit with all the cardio you seem to do. It would kill me in more ways than one. My body would never recover and I would be miserably hungry all the time. There is more power in rest days (real rest days) than in any other thing we do I am finding.
Ah Karla - we are on the same page here, aren't we? I have given up what feels like cardio to me... I've done very few workouts where my HR got up anywhere NEAR a good rate (I used to be at 80-85% max routinely, hitting 95% when I did HIIT), and I haven't sweated a ton... and I actually have only been going to karate 2/week...
My "cardio" has been lots of LISS (HR anywhere from 55-70%). I did an hour yesterday and barely got damp, then hiked with DH and DS and didn't break a sweat... I have jogged a few times, but I could count 'em on one hand probably, since I gave up the HIIT and intervals...
Maybe (are you suggesting) I should make my rest (no lifting) week a non-cardio rest week too? Even most of the LISS, and just do NEAT? Would you even cut out walking on the tmill while reading (more NEAT than a workout)? What deficit level would you eat at if it was YOU? Right now I burn around 2000/day (ranges from 1900 - 2150 based on activity level) and eat 1450 (give or take a few).
I'd love to hear your suggestions on this - cuz yeah, I think I'm in need of some kind of reset here, and I don't want to have to do MRM because I don't see how I'd do the full rest stuff required there...
Hey - I'm a newbie at this, but I know in the OPT program, Leigh has the rest weeks be NO cardio or lifting. So I think if you are going to do a rest week, do it and give your body a REAL rest - it may thank you for it!
Thanks Jen - a FULL rest week - what a concept! I'm also trying to decide if, during a rest week, I would eat at maintenance or go to a lower deficit as part of the reset process... For now just carrying on -- weight was back to 144# this morning (whew!!! ), so now I'm only 1/2# up from the lowest point. I was sure that 1.5# was going to linger, but it seems like it was just a weird blip. I hope!!!!
Karate last night was good... no falls, so just some arm bruises from blocking ... did 30 elliptical today, HR around 65-70%.
Cooked up a bunch of chicken on the grill, so yummy snack protein for today (also have some shrimp with me to put on my big salad with veggies and avocado and a little bit of egg - for once, I planned ok!).
Karla - hope you have a moment to chime in on this again
I had a pretty successful and unscheduled rest week earlier on, and I guess I needed it because it yielded a good weigh loss. I think if you can really stick your food, and light activity or lots of NEAT, it's a great idea!!! But then, what do I know??? Lolz...
(Do hope it heals up fast; I know those hurt.)
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