Hmmmmmmm ok Lisa and Leslie - I guess I'll go with the proteases then, and see if that helps before I go to the Lactaid... Unless you have other thoughts on why it seems to be upsetting my stomach...
sweetener sensitivity? do you normally tolerate splenda & ace K in things?
X2 that's what I was thinking.
But then you're talking to the lady who now ends up with an upset stomach with too much caffiene and too much sweetner apparently
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Yes, wanted to mention the digestive enzymes too as whey isolate doesn't have (much) lactose at all. A generic digestive enzyme (Jarrozymes) is what I take. What also can help is extra B6 vitamins. B1 is good for carb metabolism, B6 for protein metabolism
If you had been hit by what hits me after dairy, viz. a runny nose, then it'd have been an allergy. I get this even for rice PP so there's allergies against grains going on as well. Digestive enzymes then wouldn't help.
ETA: good call from Paula, it can be sweetener sensitivity as well, since this PP has so many added 'stuff'. E.g. plain rice cakes = no problem. Flavoured rice cakes = somewhat problematic!
Slowly upping the protein intake if you're not used to eating this much in a sitting can help as well.
BTW, re the dinner, I'd take a completely different approach = eat little throughout the day so there's more calories left for dinner. Then do not have dessert (or only a sample of it) and you're good to go, except that your macros will be off. Done!
See, now I don't think not eating throughout the day would work for me, because I'd be starving by the time I got to dinner and more likely to overeat. Personally, I like the shake and salad before dinner idea.... but that's just me.
"As far as (healthy) eating, either do it, or don't. Same issues repeated over and over is just insanity. We either commit to the endeavor or pay lip-service to it. This is the hardest part of the whole process, and it needs to be practiced more than the actual physical training. It's mind training." ~ Matt Thorne
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Wow... I was out last night, then gonna be running around a lot today and I am SO far behind on everyone! I'm gonna update here and then try to start catching up a little bit... yikes!
Yesterday was rest day, and I came in under 2000 kcal burned ... Although I STILL think that when I stroll kinda slowly the Bugg isn't picking it up cuz my step count for my 1 mile walk was WAY low . Weight 145 - had sushi for dinner, so could be soy sauce (salt), or just normal variation, or lack of major deficit from off day... Eh - I analyze too much!
Underhand lat pull downs: The 15 second rest was HARD!!! 3x2 @ 140#, 3x2 @ 130#, 4x2 @ 120.
Split Squats: 1x10 @ 55#, 2x6 @ 65# (yeah, I totally messed up the reps on this, so it's improv).
Pushups: Used "perfect pushup" again, 15,10.
Stairmaster: 20 min speed workout.
Drank Nectar with some Digestive Enzymes from GNC and a slice of Ezekiel toast. Stomach much more tolerant, but still slight twinge of weird headachey feeling... maybe it's the darn sweeteners
Thanks Paula and Espi and everyone else who made suggestions...
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re the dinner, I'd take a completely different approach = eat little throughout the day so there's more calories left for dinner. Then do not have dessert (or only a sample of it) and you're good to go, except that your macros will be off. Done!
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See, now I don't think not eating throughout the day would work for me, because I'd be starving by the time I got to dinner and more likely to overeat. Personally, I like the shake and salad before dinner idea.... but that's just me.
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Lori, I'm the same. The more often I eat, the more calories I end up eating as appetites comes with the meal.. no matter how many meals are eaten.
The only time small & frequent meals work is while on a prolonged cycling/running trip.
I think I will try to be somewhat low on calories without starving, but also eat / drink right before... we'll see...
Nevermind... crap. Sitting here surfing and starting to feel worse... stomach and head. I guess I'm getting rid of the Nectar . Crap. I liked it and wanted it to be good for me, but... not worth it if I get sick when I drink it .
Nevermind... crap. Sitting here surfing and starting to feel worse... stomach and head. I guess I'm getting rid of the Nectar . Crap. I liked it and wanted it to be good for me, but... not worth it if I get sick when I drink it .
Crap.
(First of all, I read "sitting here surfing" and thought, "How is she typing if she's on the ocean--wait, never mind." )
Aw, that's no fun, to finally find a protein you like only to find it doesn't like you. (Random, but you're not allergic or something to the "gardenia extract" or whatever it is?) Do you mix it with anything besides water? Maybe having it with a little food might help?
Nevermind... crap. Sitting here surfing and starting to feel worse... stomach and head. I guess I'm getting rid of the Nectar . Crap. I liked it and wanted it to be good for me, but... not worth it if I get sick when I drink it .
Crap.
Dang. That really sucks. It really isn't worth it if you get sick when you drink it.
See, now I don't think not eating throughout the day would work for me, because I'd be starving by the time I got to dinner and more likely to overeat. Personally, I like the shake and salad before dinner idea.... but that's just me.
Ah. Missed the (bolded) NOT part. Eating something small & protein-heavy (NO Nectar!) would be the ticket I guess!
(First of all, I read "sitting here surfing" and thought, "How is she typing if she's on the ocean--wait, never mind." )
ROTFL!!!
(although often I'm walking, not sitting - but not today )
Mebbe we could invent a computer desk for swimming pools?????
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Aw, that's no fun, to finally find a protein you like only to find it doesn't like you. (Random, but you're not allergic or something to the "gardenia extract" or whatever it is?) Do you mix it with anything besides water? Maybe having it with a little food might help?
I ate it with a slice of Ezekiel toast (since protein mixed with carbs is best for recovery anyway)... no good. I think it's the artificial sweeteners - must be a crapload of 'em in there to make it taste good.
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Dang. That really sucks. It really isn't worth it if you get sick when you drink it.
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Get better quickly!
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Aww, that bites about the new stuff upsetting your stomach. Sorry about that! It figures.
That cat picture has me giggling.
Thanks... sigh... I was seriously nauseaus and headachey and EXHAUSTED (felt like I could barely sit up) for about 1-2 hours... now I'm ok except slightly more tired than I think I should be. The two other times I tried it, I don't know if I noticed the tired part cuz it was at bedtime anyway... but BLEH. Killed my NEAT for the day too.
NO MORE NECTAR for me (darn it!). The kids at work all love it and don't seem to get sick, so I'll give away the open (barely touched) one and maybe get someone to buy the unopened one at a discount...
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Ah. Missed the (bolded) NOT part. Eating something small & protein-heavy (NO Nectar!) would be the ticket I guess!
I still love my 'nilla powder and it never makes me sick (it's all-natural). I was just hoping for a lower-cal one, and/or one I could tolerate with water instead of having to mix milk and fruit in too... I might go to the health-food market and see what they have without artificial crap in it.
Gonna try to go get some NEAT and also stop and buy the cool walking sticks we saw for our hike on Sunday morning (at least it's planned for Sunday morning). I liked using the one stick, but two will be even better - plus it'll help with my clumsy self hopefully not falling off the trail!
Today's workout:
Walk/run 1 min alternating on tmill for 30 min. Speed 3.7 / 5.2, incline 1.
Then biked around cuz it's SO nice out for about 30 min...
Did my foam rolling and stretch...
Trying to keep cals low-ish in anticipation of the pizza and dessert fest... I believe there will be home-baked cake, cream-cheese brownies (YIKES!) and possibly cheesecake too... sigh...
Sorry the nectar didn't work out. Good luck at your dinner party. I was attacked by dessert samples at the grocery store today. Its hard to say no when someone hands you something!
"As far as (healthy) eating, either do it, or don't. Same issues repeated over and over is just insanity. We either commit to the endeavor or pay lip-service to it. This is the hardest part of the whole process, and it needs to be practiced more than the actual physical training. It's mind training." ~ Matt Thorne
"The reason that most people fail instead of succeed is that they trade what they want most for what they want at the moment."
Sorry about your nectar... and good luck at that party. Hopefully you will be able to use some moderation (foreign word to us all or nothing types, no?)
Have you tried any of the nectar naturals? The regular ones have TON of the fake sugar in them. I can barely stand it, but the naturals aren't like that. You could order samples of the naturals from vitalady and see if they work for you. I've tried the fruit punch and I like it, but I'm really sensitive to the fake sugars. I can't even have diet coke anymore without getting a migraine. It sucks! I haven't had any issues with the naturals. Might be worth a shot
Sorry the nectar didn't work out. Good luck at your dinner party. I was attacked by dessert samples at the grocery store today. Its hard to say no when someone hands you something!
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Bummer about the nectar... good luck at the dinner! Yumm.... cream cheese brownies.
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Sorry about your nectar... and good luck at that party. Hopefully you will be able to use some moderation (foreign word to us all or nothing types, no?)
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Have you tried any of the nectar naturals? The regular ones have TON of the fake sugar in them. I can barely stand it, but the naturals aren't like that. You could order samples of the naturals from vitalady and see if they work for you. I've tried the fruit punch and I like it, but I'm really sensitive to the fake sugars. I can't even have diet coke anymore without getting a migraine. It sucks! I haven't had any issues with the naturals. Might be worth a shot
How'd you do at the dinner party?
I might try the naturals - I had heard they didn't taste as good, but... hmmmmm... Can you send me the link for vitalady (or is it vitalady.com)?
I have good news / bad news about the party...
Good: I stayed on plan. I had 1.5 pieces of pizza (one "regular" with mushrooms and one small veggie one from a sheet). I had one tiny brownie (maybe 1" by 1" at most) and a few bites from DH's plate - 2-3 bites of lemon cake, 1 bite german chocolate cake, 1 bite cheesecake. Lotsa salad (whew!)...
Bad: The pizza or something must've been salty??? Cuz I was up 1# this morning. Damn it!
DH and I went on a hike today - it was SO beautiful out... we went 6 miles . Just over half was "real" trail, the rest was a multi-purpose run/bike trail getting to and from the start of the trail... I had my walking sticks and they were great - I could just use them to pull myself uphill without losing much speed, I felt steadier in general in bad footing... and the Bugg said I burned a ton of calories (the instructions say they burn more because you get a full-body workout - I think they might be right!)
Other than that, got to have lunch with my college roomie who's visiting family (she lives 10 hours away now)... my macros are a bit off today (need protein!) but good with kcals, etc, so far... her kids are SO cute (and energetic ).
Gonna go catch up on the boards for a little while...
I like the nectar but the facts are that since I have been on the cut I rarely ever drink any calories even in protein. I get the fact that whey protein is faster acting but I generally want to eat that 100k now. So after a workout I do a good meal with lots of lean meat and carbs instead. That is my "power shake"
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I like the nectar but the facts are that since I have been on the cut I rarely ever drink any calories even in protein. I get the fact that whey protein is faster acting but I generally want to eat that 100k now. So after a workout I do a good meal with lots of lean meat and carbs instead. That is my "power shake"
If I stay at work to workout, it's at least 30 min til I get home, so I still like the shakes... plus I have been drinking half before and half after, and when I'm at work there's very little way I could chow down on a decent meal like that, so... that's my main reason why.
Feeling pretty frustrated with the scale... still stuck at 145.5# this morning (1# above lowest recent point)... I know salt can take a few days to clear, but I just feel like I've been good and careful and measuring / logging food and getting my activity with the Bugg monitoring, etc... so I SHOULD be losing more weight and more quickly . I'm at a 500 kcal deficit but losing about 1-2# per month instead of 1# per week. And I DO know all the reasons weight fluctuates, but the overall trend is SLOWLY down - more slow than it should be given everything else. And that sucks .
I want to get the fat loss done with already instead of dieting forever, but lately I wonder if I'll EVER stop struggling with deficits and being hungry. And I AM hungry - it's not like this is fun, ya know? . Some red in the workout, but that's probably mostly because it was lower reps today...
Today: Stage 6 B4
Started with Chin-ups: 2x3 bw (that's an increase of 1 on the 2nd set, although it took me a while to get all the way up!)
Feeling pretty frustrated with the scale... still stuck at 145.5# this morning (1# above lowest recent point)... I know salt can take a few days to clear, but I just feel like I've been good and careful and measuring / logging food and getting my activity with the Bugg monitoring, etc... so I SHOULD be losing more weight and more quickly . I'm at a 500 kcal deficit but losing about 1-2# per month instead of 1# per week. And I DO know all the reasons weight fluctuates, but the overall trend is SLOWLY down - more slow than it should be given everything else. And that sucks .
It does suck when you feel you're doing everything right and you're not getting the results you expect. I know you know all of these things, but are you sure the food intake is where you have it? I'm asking because of the pizza, and a comment I think you made last week about guestimating some meals eaten out. It shouldn't make that big a deal, however, if say BodyBugg is off by 10% (ie. 1800 instead of 2000) and your food is off by 10% (ie. 1650 instead of 1500) that might be making your difference. Combined it might make the difference between a 500 cal deficit and a 150 cal deficit.
I suppose it's made me pretty anti-social but I'm not sure that I trust food that I don't prepare. Even with restaurant menus that provide calories it can be so easy to be off on calories. I may measure (even weigh) fats/oils since I know just a little extra can impact the count considerably. I figure in a busy restaurant the oil used to grill the chicken is probably in a squeeze bottle.
It does suck when you feel you're doing everything right and you're not getting the results you expect. I know you know all of these things, but are you sure the food intake is where you have it? I'm asking because of the pizza, and a comment I think you made last week about guestimating some meals eaten out. It shouldn't make that big a deal, however, if say BodyBugg is off by 10% (ie. 1800 instead of 2000) and your food is off by 10% (ie. 1650 instead of 1500) that might be making your difference. Combined it might make the difference between a 500 cal deficit and a 150 cal deficit.
I suppose it's made me pretty anti-social but I'm not sure that I trust food that I don't prepare. Even with restaurant menus that provide calories it can be so easy to be off on calories. I may measure (even weigh) fats/oils since I know just a little extra can impact the count considerably. I figure in a busy restaurant the oil used to grill the chicken is probably in a squeeze bottle.
Sigh... you're probably right, but I really do try. When we eat out, I am very "high maintenance" and order specially with no oil / butter; I try to go to places that list nutrition on their website (and like you said, I know those aren't perfect either, but it's better than a complete guess!). I'm VERY particular when I order, and with what I choose, for whatever that's worth.
I also don't even account for calories I burn above 2000 on the Bugg when calculating my deficit, so if anything I should be at MORE than a 500 cal deficit on many days. With the pizza, I rounded up the amount I ate just to be "safe", etc etc... I even blotted the damn slices with a napkin first because I read that it can eliminate some of the fat/grease.
I dunno... I don't think I can get much more obsessive without becoming, as you put it, antisocial . I mean - isn't there a balance where we also get to live and not start avoiding the things in our lives that we enjoy? I don't want to ONLY eat food I have personally cooked from scratch (it might be healthier, but it just doesn't fit my life to do that 100% of the time). I want to be able to go out and enjoy myself sometimes. I don't drink anything but water, if I do eat any dessert I share it and account for what I did eat, etc etc...
I'm just feeling frustrated and really really really could use a good scale-drop day to encourage me that all this work isn't in vain. I know it's not an overnight thing, but some days I just get SO frustrated and sick of it. I want to be "normal" (whatever that is). My coworker works out, but she eats crap and doesn't worry about it and she's tiny... and that's not me and no one said life is fair, but some days it just gets to you more than others, ya know?
Just having one of those bad-scale days. And I'm hungry.
Hey, don't get me wrong, I know you're trying. I think the point is that unless you're going to prepare all of your own food you might just have to live with the slower level of weight loss. Or... aim for a higher deficit which might not be suspect to guestimated food. I would suspect the other option is to commit to something like OPT completely for a number of weeks and you're done. Although your 40% deficit on that would be 1200 calories (yikes). I'm not sure which solution would suit you best, only you know that.
I still get big jumps where (for no reason) I'll go up a pound or two. I suppose I've got far enough to go that they don't bother me as a few days later they'll come off. Maybe when I'm at your stage it will drive me nuts too.
Added - I don't always eat 100% cooked from scratch products (just finished purchased bean dip with carrots and purchased flatbread). I was thinking more of chain restaurants that may provide a recipe that the cook just ignores.
Added - found the link I was looking for. It was an article written regarding what calorie level that restaurants claimed a dish had vs. what they actually were. Although as a study went it wasn't very well done. ABC News: The Skinny on Restaurant 'Diet' Menus
Sorry you are frustrated. I felt that way last week so I am avoiding the scale right now. I definitely have my days when I look at some of my tiny friends seemingly getting tinier while doing nothing.
Also, RE: social life, I sure hope there can be a balance. I really enjoy being with friends and going out to dinner/having dinner parties, etc. I am not really ready to give that up yet. I am sure my goals will come slower because of it and so far I am ok with that.
I dunno... I don't think I can get much more obsessive without becoming, as you put it, antisocial . I mean - isn't there a balance where we also get to live and not start avoiding the things in our lives that we enjoy? I don't want to ONLY eat food I have personally cooked from scratch (it might be healthier, but it just doesn't fit my life to do that 100% of the time). I want to be able to go out and enjoy myself sometimes. I don't drink anything but water, if I do eat any dessert I share it and account for what I did eat, etc etc...
I totally understand. I honestly think if MOST of your meals are planned and you do more home cooking than not, you should be fine. It might slow your loss, but you can't cut out everything you love 100% of the time because what kind of life is that? Just find a balance. For me, I have to cut alcohol and sugar during the week just to maintain, but that allows me treats on the weekend. I can live with that.
Figure out what you can live with and what you can't and plan your calories accordingly. You'll get there!
Stick with it and try not to get down. I have been having very similar conversations with myself the past couple of days. It sucks ass and I do understand what you are saying.
I agree, just try to find that balance that keeps you sane while seeing results. I think it takes a lot of tweaking to find it, but you can do it.
Hang in there.
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Well the facts are that unless your metablism is tanked that you are eating more than you think. Yes cutting does suck. I am on a 250 cal a day deficit right now and that even sucks. Some days are worse than others. I use the Hot Roxx pills that I got a long time ago for the really bad days. They take the real edge off the hunger when those really bad days happen. You might consider something similar.
I have learned over the past year to pack my food every morning. I have a soft sided cooler that comes to work with me every day and also comes with me on every weekend day too. I have meals I can eat at my desk and meals I can eat in the car (without cooking or heating) Sample of meals you can do to pack and go are cottage cheese and fruit, peanut butter and fruit, sandwhiches, waldorf salad with chicken and chicken pasta salad. These are great post-workout meals too btw.
If you are not doing the same sort of thing you are setting youself up to fail during the day. I have found (for me) that there is no way to stay compliant and not be starving without eating every few hours and there is no way to eat well every few hours unless the food is right there with you and ready to eat.
I am with Anne. Eating out is overrated anyway. Actually I still eat out but no more than 1-2 times a week anymore. When I do eat out, I will not order food like pizza. I eat out at better restaruants that serve whole foods which makes the estimating a bit easier. Food like pizza I can have at home when I make it and can control what is on it. Besides consistent weight loss the up side to all of this is that I have a LOT more money in my pocket at the end of the week now. Really not such a bad way to go.
Stick with it for now g, but honestly the rate you are losing is way too slow for anyone who has more than 4 lbs to lose without getting frustrated and quitting. You will soon be at a crossroads with this at this rate.
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I have learned over the past year to pack my food every morning.
I do this too. I pack lunch and two snacks and take them to work with me every day, because when I eat out I don't always make good choices. I eat out maybe 1-2 times a week. Still, that's enough balance for me and I can still have a burger now and then!
I pack my meals for the day too. On days that I don't, I end up eating much more that I would otherwise, still feel hungry, and make bad decissions. Not to mention I start feeling sluggish towards the end of the day. When I have my clean food, I don't get as hungry and I have more energy.
Hey, don't get me wrong, I know you're trying. I think the point is that unless you're going to prepare all of your own food you might just have to live with the slower level of weight loss. Or... aim for a higher deficit which might not be suspect to guestimated food. I would suspect the other option is to commit to something like OPT completely for a number of weeks and you're done. Although your 40% deficit on that would be 1200 calories (yikes). I'm not sure which solution would suit you best, only you know that.
I still get big jumps where (for no reason) I'll go up a pound or two. I suppose I've got far enough to go that they don't bother me as a few days later they'll come off. Maybe when I'm at your stage it will drive me nuts too.
Hey Anne... thanks - I know you're trying to help me. I've seen that article about the restaurants before, for whatever that's worth. I guess it's all a big TWEAK and balancing act at this point. I don't have a ton to lose (at least for now, assuming my goal weight ends up being my goal - I won't know til I get there). 1200 kcals would be pretty tough...
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Sorry you are frustrated. I felt that way last week so I am avoiding the scale right now. I definitely have my days when I look at some of my tiny friends seemingly getting tinier while doing nothing.
Also, RE: social life, I sure hope there can be a balance. I really enjoy being with friends and going out to dinner/having dinner parties, etc. I am not really ready to give that up yet. I am sure my goals will come slower because of it and so far I am ok with that.
I'm ok with not losing at warp speed (), but I do think 1# per month is too damn slow. I have to find balance though. One reason I'm back trying to lose after my inital loss 11 years ago is that while maintaining I lost that balance. I need to live my life and enjoy things without ALWAYS obsessing. But I also need to control enough that I don't gain or stop losing...
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I totally understand. I honestly think if MOST of your meals are planned and you do more home cooking than not, you should be fine. It might slow your loss, but you can't cut out everything you love 100% of the time because what kind of life is that? Just find a balance. For me, I have to cut alcohol and sugar during the week just to maintain, but that allows me treats on the weekend. I can live with that.
Figure out what you can live with and what you can't and plan your calories accordingly. You'll get there!
Thanks... I don't even drink, so it's not drinking the cals, it's eating them. That and honestly, I do think my metabolism is pretty sucky. I haven't decided to do the MRM from Leigh, but maybe at some point I will. I burn under 2000 / day if I don't make a real effort to move a LOT. There has to be balance, even during fatloss.
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Stick with it and try not to get down. I have been having very similar conversations with myself the past couple of days. It sucks ass and I do understand what you are saying.
I agree, just try to find that balance that keeps you sane while seeing results. I think it takes a lot of tweaking to find it, but you can do it.
Hang in there.
Thanks Ginger... I'm still tweaking... When I look at the big picture, it's downward in weight - but too slow. I know it's time to step back and look at areas I can improve... but hey - I'm allowed a frustrated day (or week) sometimes, right? sigh...
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Well the facts are that unless your metablism is tanked that you are eating more than you think. Yes cutting does suck. I am on a 250 cal a day deficit right now and that even sucks. Some days are worse than others. I use the Hot Roxx pills that I got a long time ago for the really bad days. They take the real edge off the hunger when those really bad days happen. You might consider something similar.
Karla - gonna break your post down into parts cuz there's so much good info in here that I want to address...
I don't want to take anything like HotRoxx... I don't react well at all to it (tried appetite stuff a few years ago) - I get very jittery... and for me, I've gotta continue figuring out a way I can live - anything artificial like that only results in rebound gain / appetite for me when I stop.
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I have learned over the past year to pack my food every morning. I have a soft sided cooler that comes to work with me every day and also comes with me on every weekend day too. I have meals I can eat at my desk and meals I can eat in the car (without cooking or heating) Sample of meals you can do to pack and go are cottage cheese and fruit, peanut butter and fruit, sandwhiches, waldorf salad with chicken and chicken pasta salad. These are great post-workout meals too btw.
If you are not doing the same sort of thing you are setting youself up to fail during the day. I have found (for me) that there is no way to stay compliant and not be starving without eating every few hours and there is no way to eat well every few hours unless the food is right there with you and ready to eat.
I do pack my lunch daily, and snacks. I wish I could eat cottage cheese, but even with lactaid pills it REALLY makes me sick. Seems the older I get, the more foods I can't tolerate . Everyone I know thinks I'm obsessive about my foods - it's only on this board, among other like-minded people, that I could ever be considered lenient in any way .
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I am with Anne. Eating out is overrated anyway. Actually I still eat out but no more than 1-2 times a week anymore. When I do eat out, I will not order food like pizza. I eat out at better restaruants that serve whole foods which makes the estimating a bit easier. Food like pizza I can have at home when I make it and can control what is on it. Besides consistent weight loss the up side to all of this is that I have a LOT more money in my pocket at the end of the week now. Really not such a bad way to go.
I never order pizza out - we always go to "real" restaurants and do exactly that - order "real" food (with my special instructions)... I tend to order salads with lean meat and dressing on the side, or breakfast-type foods (like egg beaters prepared with no oil or butter). The only reason I had pizza, btw, is that we went to a friend's dinner party and they decided to go simple and just order pizza .
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Stick with it for now g, but honestly the rate you are losing is way too slow for anyone who has more than 4 lbs to lose without getting frustrated and quitting. You will soon be at a crossroads with this at this rate.
Exactly... I'm going to keep on tweaking... I KNOW there has to be something going on. Either I'm sneaking calories in that I am unaware of (and thus need to drop my deficit in recognition of this) or I need to be even more active. Or both. Or accept this rate of loss (which is at least better than gaining).
Today: scale back to 144.5. My recent lowest point again, but haven't broken under it yet.
Karate last night was good and tough, but I managed to hurt myself a bit. I was being thrown, and the guy throwing me tried to be "nice" by pulling up on my arm as I was hitting the ground. Unfortunately he pulled a bit too much so instead of my whole body hitting the ground (as I've been trained, and as would disperse the impact), only my lower legs hit. The added momentum and weird angle led to my legs somehow tangling up on themselves and bottom line - HUGE bruising and swelling.
I basically kicked myself in the shin very hard falling like that (don't even know if it was the other knee or heel versus shin). HUGE hematoma - looked like a literal egg sitting on the front of my shin. Gross. Today the lump is down a lot, but it is an amazingly large bruise and all kinds of colors and hurts. My ankle and knee hurt too, due to other bruises all over the lower leg plus probably added fluid from the main bruising and draining.
I just did elliptical this morning because I was afraid of any impact on the leg, and I have it in a compression wrap. Gonna get some ice and do that again too (iced it all last evening). I don't want this to cut my NEAT, but it's pretty freakin' sore.
... Although I STILL think that when I stroll kinda slowly the Bugg isn't picking it up cuz my step count for my 1 mile walk was WAY low 
. Weight 145 - had sushi for dinner, so could be soy sauce (salt), or just normal variation, or lack of major deficit from off day... Eh - I analyze too much!
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