DB Push Press: 3x8 w/ 25# db's. Dunno HOW I'm gonna go higher on these!!
Back Ext: 2x12
Incline Rev. Crunch: 2x12
Did chin-ups before anything else - from a hang position, did 2 full, 3rd ALMOST made it... Hmmmmmm...
Narrowing down my goals - I won't use all of these, just brainstorming:
Weight - I need to confess my weight (it's just a number, right?) and my actual goal weight. sigh... 10-11# isn't much, but at the rate I'm losing, it'll take me the entire time!
Measurements - maybe a goal about measurements or fitting into some clothing or something...
Chin-ups / Pull-ups - do 10 chin-ups, and at least 1 real pull up. This goal will be easier if I lose the weight!
Diet - something to do with compliance and planned breaks...
Rest days - making sure I take one every week (at least one!)
Karate - I might ??? include a karate goal about testing for (and passing) my ik kyu (the last level of brown belt, qualifying me to test for black next summer).
Hiking / biking being more active - maybe some goal with this?
Swimsuit - maybe a goal about wearing one without wanting to die?
Beyond those... I want to read the thread again and see what other people are doing, maybe someone will inspire me with a goal I hadn't thought of.
Karate later... HUNGRY cuz I lifted and pms-ing... sigh...
I have never done formal refeeds, I think the desire has just hit me to eat and they come naturally (not saying that I did them right or ate the right things. I think the body just wills them at certain times). Anyhow, what I am going to say is that you will be retaining a LOT of water if you do that, and you're going to have to take that into account when you step on the scale in the morning. This could be 2-3 lbs of water from that many carbs, and it's going to take a couple of days to go away, so I would say you would want to try it and then wait a week and see if it affected you. How often does he prescribe these refeeds? If they are once a week or something like that, you're going to be bouncing all over the place on the scale, at least I would be!
I do unplanned refeeds sometimes (but get mad at myself, feel out of control)... Maybe it's my body asking for what it needs, but my trust in that is pretty low (or I wouldn't be overweight).
The refeeds Lyle talks about (and I haven't finished the book yet) are, for me, every 2 weeks for either 5 hours or one day. There are ranges of levels of food and time, etc etc... still trying to take it all in!
DB Push Press: 3x8 w/ 25# db's. Dunno HOW I'm gonna go higher on these!!
Back Ext: 2x12
Incline Rev. Crunch: 2x12
Did chin-ups before anything else - from a hang position, did 2 full, 3rd ALMOST made it... Hmmmmmm...
Narrowing down my goals - I won't use all of these, just brainstorming:
Weight - I need to confess my weight (it's just a number, right?) and my actual goal weight. sigh... 10-11# isn't much, but at the rate I'm losing, it'll take me the entire time!
Measurements - maybe a goal about measurements or fitting into some clothing or something...
Chin-ups / Pull-ups - do 10 chin-ups, and at least 1 real pull up. This goal will be easier if I lose the weight!
Diet - something to do with compliance and planned breaks...
Rest days - making sure I take one every week (at least one!)
Karate - I might ??? include a karate goal about testing for (and passing) my ik kyu (the last level of brown belt, qualifying me to test for black next summer).
Hiking / biking being more active - maybe some goal with this?
Swimsuit - maybe a goal about wearing one without wanting to die?
Beyond those... I want to read the thread again and see what other people are doing, maybe someone will inspire me with a goal I hadn't thought of.
Karate later... HUNGRY cuz I lifted and pms-ing... sigh...
I'm doing the same thing goal-wise--mulling them over and refining them. Maybe I should have posted them for feedback in my log earlier. Anyway, yours look like they're taking shape. I have a chinup/pullup goal in mind also, but I was trying to figure out what was reasonable. I'm about where you are right now (two and a half if I'm fresh). So is 10 chinups and 1 pullup a good goal for six months? I'm stuck on what is actually attainable...
Another one who is contemplating goals right now. It seems a lot of us are doing it.
Bytsi,
I will be watching what you decide with the Flexible Diet book. It is on my list of wants and I have heard great things about the info Lyle puts out.
I won't even discuss cereal. It was a big downfall for me and I have it in the house, as well, for the kids. During the summer, I tend to buy more of the crappy cereals (as well as the healthy ones) since I force the good stuff down them during the school year.
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"The miracle isn't that I finished. The miracle is that I had the courage to start." ~ John Bingham
The refeeds Lyle talks about (and I haven't finished the book yet) are, for me, every 2 weeks for either 5 hours or one day. There are ranges of levels of food and time, etc etc... still trying to take it all in!
I think you will find something you're comfortable with, and you might do better with the 'unplanned' refeeds if you know there is a specific time and place for it.
Hey Jes, thanks for sayin' hi!
Reading Lyle McD's flexible dieting book - I want to learn about refeeds and diet breaks and how to do 'em right. If what I'm reading is right (and I checked on his forum but didn't get a great amount of info), if I do a 5-hour refeed, I should be eating over 2000 kcal of carbs during that 5 hours...
1.2 g carb / kg lean body mass (I have about 110 # or 50 kg lbm). 1.2 x 50 = 600. That means 600 g carbs = 2400 kcal!!!!!!
Anyone have experience with this?!?!? Seems like a crapload of kcals! If I eat "normally" before the refeed (he suggests eating normally, then doing the refeed for 5 hours before bed, so 5-10pm, for example), that's over 3000 kcal for the day (let's say I eat 800 of my "normal" 1500 kcal before 5pm). Yikes!!!!! Just seems SOOOO high!!!! I dunno if I could do it, but if I eat less, it might not serve its purpose...
I dunno... hope someone else has done this and has thoughts on it or could chime in with advice...
Not posting much in here but since I read everyone's log daily by email subscription and just started a thread elsewhere asking about optimal amounts of carbs, I'm answering the 'mail'. I've got the FlexDiet book and actually reopened it to do the MATH.
Actually my question got started because I don't retain nuch water at all from refeeds. Sometimes I've even lost weight a day later! So, I wondered if my refeed had been successful at all when I don't retain water. Turned out that success of a refeed shouldn't be measured by water wt gains , huge or small but by how pumped your muscles feel and esp. long-term if you start losing fat faster afterwards.
Generally people start by using math and then go on to go by feeling.
What I have to say is that once I'm really hungry for carbs (which mostly coincides with a peak in progesterone as well as right before I ovulate) ,
300g of carbs = NOTHING, zilch, nada.
400g might just hit the sweet spot but there's a good chance I'll 'rinse & repeat' a few days later which of course is bad news as overeating several days in a row (or EOD) will lead to fat gain.
This overeating will not happen though with something like 500-600g of carbs.. which just happens to be the upper end of my 1 day refeed allotment. Actually I had 630g the other day and that's way over...
Trouble is.. I've always planned for approx. 400g of carbs and anytime I go over, it's a very SLOPPY refeed = too much fat & too much fructose as I tend to have lost control by then.
Which I will remedy by aiming at the upper end of the 1day refeed on day 15 (pre-ovulation) and on day 25 (progesterone peak) when I end up being most hungry naturally. I may move both backwards or forwards depending on how I feel on that day. Originally I'd planned them on day 22 but it seems they come later when ovulatory temp surge is late, so when that happens.. postponing is a better idea as otherwise I'd do 1 planned and 1 unplanned refeed very close to each other.
Going back to the math GIRL YOU GOT YOUR NUMBERS ALL WRONG.
It's not 1.2 g/kg but 12g/kg and that's only for the 1d refeeds. Here's my counts for myself (LBM = 46kg)
a 5hr refeed every week @ 3-6g/kg LBM (140-280g)
- a 1day refeed every 10-14 days @ 6-12g/kg LBM (280-550g)
For you: 150-300g for the 5hr refeed & 300-600g carbs for the 1 day refeed.
You can start mid-range and see if this works, if it's not enough go up, if too much (when you're very insulin resistant, which I don't assume), go down.
I was trying to figure out what was reasonable. I'm about where you are right now (two and a half if I'm fresh). So is 10 chinups and 1 pullup a good goal for six months? I'm stuck on what is actually attainable...
Not sure what's attainable... just figured 10 was a nice round number
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Another one who is contemplating goals right now. It seems a lot of us are doing it.
Bytsi,
I will be watching what you decide with the Flexible Diet book. It is on my list of wants and I have heard great things about the info Lyle puts out.
I won't even discuss cereal. It was a big downfall for me and I have it in the house, as well, for the kids. During the summer, I tend to buy more of the crappy cereals (as well as the healthy ones) since I force the good stuff down them during the school year.
Hey Ginger... I think the goal contemplation coincides with the challenge
We're in the same place with the cereal!!! As I read Lyle's book, I think the best info is the break / maintenance info... at least that seems the best so far... Still debating...
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I think you will find something you're comfortable with, and you might do better with the 'unplanned' refeeds if you know there is a specific time and place for it.
Ah, but I want to feel in control instead of beating myself up and going "oh crap, how did I eat THAT MUCH!?!?!?" when it wasn't even in the food budget. I'd rather say "I plan to eat _____" when we go out on Sunday, or whatever... Being out of control and continuing to eat even when I know I should be long done scares me.
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Wait, did you just do 2.75 chin-ups??!! (Or 2.95. Yes, that percentage counts.)
*insert clapping smiley & random wohoos*
LOL - yeah. I did 2.75 (maybe even 2.8)
Espi... wow... I have to reread your post a few times! I do realize I did the math wrong - I was actually cut/pasting someone else's math who has the same LBM and I think () they did theirs wrong!!!
In any case, I think I'm going to focus on the single "treat" meals and diet breaks, as Lyle even says the refeeds are the least important part, especially for people above 20% bf. Also since I'm not doing lowcarb (carbs range from 35-50%, averaging around 40%), they are probably less important for me at this time.
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I figured out why the bag of chex mix attacked me last night (oh yeah, did I mention that )... AF showed up this morning - a freakin' week early!!!!! I felt pms-y but was thinking it was too early (she was due Sunday-ish!), but here she is... that beeeyotch .
Carbs as in %s aren't very useful when I don't know what your actual deficit is...
When the deficit is large enough, you are going to need refeeds.
Some people can get away with larger deficits without needing a refeed than others. I'd not really use a certain bf% as the determining factor here, but your own experience as to whether you need them or not.
Carbs as in %s aren't very useful when I don't know what your actual deficit is...
When the deficit is large enough, you are going to need refeeds.
Some people can get away with larger deficits without needing a refeed than others. I'd not really use a certain bf% as the determining factor here, but your own experience as to whether you need them or not.
I'm eating at 500 kcal deficit... I aim for 1500 kcal, BodyBugg says I burn anywhere from 1900 (rest day) to 2300 (very busy day) kcals - most days are 2000-2100 kcals burned. I don't eat EXACTLY 1500 kcal/day, but I average at least 500 kcal daily deficit based on measured foods and Bodybugg readings.
My main reason for wanting to see if I need a diet break is that I've been dieting for YEARS and YEARS, but since I hadn't been measuring and had been overestimating my activity, I was eating at maintenance / slight gain levels for a long time while THINKING I was at a deficit. Bleh.
Since May 11, I've been measuring food and tracking a la Leigh, and I've had the Bugg for almost 3 weeks now to confirm that I am, indeed, eating at an appropriate deficit. I have had a few unplanned refeeds but nothing devastatingly high (maybe broke 2000 kcal twice?) - my worst break had to do with massive quantities of sodium at a restaurant that added scale-weight for a full week + .
Additionally, I want to figure out maintenance, because after my initial 50# loss (11 years ago) I maintained pretty well (weight watchers + cardio and lifting), but about 5 years ago the weight crept up again and hit a post-loss high of 17# above goal after doing NROLW (and overeating from the intensity) right before I got Leigh's book in May. So I WILL get the fat off again and find a good maintenance level - but then I also need to learn a new and better way to maintain.
It would really depend on how active you really are and in your case you're pretty active most days , isn't it? but I'm someone that could literally forget to eat all day long one day and then eat close to 5000 kcal if I'd allow myself to do so. So, creating a larger deficit on rest days so as to save calories for overfeeding days (preferably hard training days) works out better for ME.
Other people's brains work differently. I'm seeing people who feel completely and wholly stuffed at 3000kcal even when eating junkfood, never mind 'clean' (ahem !) diet foods.
I just did my first refeed. I did it over the period of a week. But I did not force feed. I tried hard to just listen to my body and eat when it said I needed to eat. There were a couple of days where my body did not want to eat very much and so I let that happen. Then this weekend I ate like a pig. Or at least what I thought was like a pig. When I sat down (end of weekend) to type in all the food that I ate it turned out to be just around 2300 kcals. Because I ate cleanly I could not pig out too much. I cannot even begin to imagine getting 4k of real food in my body. So the net result of my refeed was a < 1900 k average for the week.
Still I lost weight and maintained mega strength. My lifting this week has been incredible. I am hoping to do a very similar thing this week only actually try to loose less than a lb of actual weight.
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I figured out why the bag of chex mix attacked me last night (oh yeah, did I mention that )... AF showed up this morning - a freakin' week early!!!!! I felt pms-y but was thinking it was too early (she was due Sunday-ish!), but here she is... that beeeyotch .
AF showed up this morning for me as well. I've at least figured out when I start sleeping a lot she's 3-4 days away. But I've also figured out that's when I become really sensitive to fake sweetners too.
*sigh* I'm really working on resisting ben and Jerry's in the freezer.
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x2! I wish I could even do one! That's one of my many goals. Good luck fine-tuning your challenge goals! I'm sure you'll do amazing!
Thanks Kara! I know you'll be able to do a chin-up soon!
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I just did my first refeed. I did it over the period of a week. But I did not force feed. I tried hard to just listen to my body and eat when it said I needed to eat. There were a couple of days where my body did not want to eat very much and so I let that happen. Then this weekend I ate like a pig. Or at least what I thought was like a pig. When I sat down (end of weekend) to type in all the food that I ate it turned out to be just around 2300 kcals. Because I ate cleanly I could not pig out too much. I cannot even begin to imagine getting 4k of real food in my body. So the net result of my refeed was a < 1900 k average for the week.
Still I lost weight and maintained mega strength. My lifting this week has been incredible. I am hoping to do a very similar thing this week only actually try to loose less than a lb of actual weight.
Karla, you are the only person I know who can lose weight on a refeed!!! I wish that'd happen for me... maybe it will... I won't do anything for now, til I've debated it forever and beaten the issue to death .
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AF showed up this morning for me as well. I've at least figured out when I start sleeping a lot she's 3-4 days away. But I've also figured out that's when I become really sensitive to fake sweetners too.
*sigh* I'm really working on resisting ben and Jerry's in the freezer.
So did ya' resist? I did ok last night - ended up around 1550 kcal but burned almost 2300 by Bugg measurement...
Had a trial glass of new protein powder from my coworker - YUM!!! You can get it on Amazon or BodyBuilding.com or prolly lots of placess... It's by Syntrax and it's called Nectar. It has 90 kcal, 23g protein, 0 fat & 0 carbs, not much sodium either. It does use sucralose and acesulfame, but there is also a natural version without those if you prefer... I tasted the Strawberry Kiwi, which was fine, but ended up ordering Fuzzy Navel and another one that is pineapple & cocount (I think that's what I ended up picking )...
It was tasty, doesn't require a blender or anything except water to mix. And despite tasting like a fruit juice-y sugary drink, it was pure whey protein and helped me feel full instead of getting a sugar crash from it.
For some reason today I am SOOOOO sleepy... couldn't get up this morning, ended up being late out the door (DH and kids added to the lateness )... I want a redo for the morning!!!
Workout today will be karate in the evening. I also MIGHT try to go find a real actual bikini for my pics (NOT to wear in public) if there is a good sale... tired of the ugly tankini bottom with a bra that I used before.
Actually a lot of people lose weight on re-feeds. The thing people get confused about is a "clean" refeed or "clean" bulk versus pigging out on all the junk that is your old food. The two are not the same. Take one or two days and do this experiement. Eat as many fresh fruits and vegetables that you can eat (hint: do not put oils or butters on these or add calories in any other way) Make sure you get at least 1.5g of lean protein for your body weight and add at least 40g of good quality fat througout the day. Throw in some of these other carbs throughout the day but keep the portion sizes down. (Whole wheat bread, yams, brown rice) Eat throughout the day until you cannot eat any more. Not until you are uncomfortably full like you do on Thanksgiving but until you are really full and happy.
You won't put any weight at all on if you do that. Your body will respond by being happy for the fuel. The metablism will refire and you will be able to lift wickedly the days following. It also does wonders for your mind. You will not be as tempted to eat the crap that you often times fill your body with. You will be eating good quality food in good quantities for your body. All good stuff.
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No I don't but it is the best out there if you like juice flavored stuff. I don't really like the milk flavored (shake) drinks. This one is more like cool-aid and even tastes like real cherry juice if you make it strong enough.
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I just did my first refeed. I did it over the period of a week. But I did not force feed. I tried hard to just listen to my body and eat when it said I needed to eat. There were a couple of days where my body did not want to eat very much and so I let that happen. Then this weekend I ate like a pig. Or at least what I thought was like a pig. When I sat down (end of weekend) to type in all the food that I ate it turned out to be just around 2300 kcals. Because I ate cleanly I could not pig out too much. I cannot even begin to imagine getting 4k of real food in my body. So the net result of my refeed was a < 1900 k average for the week.
Still I lost weight and maintained mega strength. My lifting this week has been incredible. I am hoping to do a very similar thing this week only actually try to loose less than a lb of actual weight.
Karla,
How often or at what point do you refeed? I haven't read any of these books that are being talked about--would like to, but I'll have to wait till I'm not planning school and whatnot.
Had a trial glass of new protein powder from my coworker - YUM!!! You can get it on Amazon or BodyBuilding.com or prolly lots of placess... It's by Syntrax and it's called Nectar. It has 90 kcal, 23g protein, 0 fat & 0 carbs, not much sodium either. It does use sucralose and acesulfame, but there is also a natural version without those if you prefer... I tasted the Strawberry Kiwi, which was fine, but ended up ordering Fuzzy Navel and another one that is pineapple & cocount (I think that's what I ended up picking )...
It was tasty, doesn't require a blender or anything except water to mix. And despite tasting like a fruit juice-y sugary drink, it was pure whey protein and helped me feel full instead of getting a sugar crash from it.
Workout today will be karate in the evening. I also MIGHT try to go find a real actual bikini for my pics (NOT to wear in public) if there is a good sale... tired of the ugly tankini bottom with a bra that I used before.
I may have to pick some of that PP up. I had run out of mine and had to pick up some nasty crap, that I am choking down and I vow to never do that again.
Have a good time at karate.
I am struggling with the whole picture outfit thing, too, The bottoms I had switched to are starting to be big. I don't know which way to go and I actually thought about going to check out the sales. Let me know what you decide.
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"The miracle isn't that I finished. The miracle is that I had the courage to start." ~ John Bingham
Do you know where you can get samples of the nectar? I don't like to buy flavored PP that I've not tried before.
I ordered a bunch of samples from Vitalady.com. They came quickly and this way I could try a bunch of them. The samples run $1.99 for a 35g. baggie. That isn't bad, but I thought the shipping was a bit inflated........but.......it's better than me spending a ton on a 2lb. jug and not liking it.
Bytsi..........I love the Fuzzy Navel, Crystal Sky (my favorite) and Roadside Lemonade. I also really liked the Twisted Cherry. I still have a sample of the lemon iced tea to try. I was not impressed with the Fruit Punch as this is one that is called a Syntrax Nectar "Natural". I got a funny after-taste from it and won't be ordering that one.
Like Karla........I prefer the shakes made with water and not milk. I like ON, but not with water so when I found these I was so happy. I drink at least one a day.
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Actually a lot of people lose weight on re-feeds. The thing people get confused about is a "clean" refeed or "clean" bulk versus pigging out on all the junk that is your old food. The two are not the same. Take one or two days and do this experiement. Eat as many fresh fruits and vegetables that you can eat (hint: do not put oils or butters on these or add calories in any other way) Make sure you get at least 1.5g of lean protein for your body weight and add at least 40g of good quality fat througout the day. Throw in some of these other carbs throughout the day but keep the portion sizes down. (Whole wheat bread, yams, brown rice) Eat throughout the day until you cannot eat any more. Not until you are uncomfortably full like you do on Thanksgiving but until you are really full and happy.
You won't put any weight at all on if you do that. Your body will respond by being happy for the fuel. The metablism will refire and you will be able to lift wickedly the days following. It also does wonders for your mind. You will not be as tempted to eat the crap that you often times fill your body with. You will be eating good quality food in good quantities for your body. All good stuff.
I will consider trying that Karla... I guess a lot of my hangups are just fears of regain, since I was already at "goal" and in maintenance once, and I am struggling to return there...
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I am struggling with the whole picture outfit thing, too, The bottoms I had switched to are starting to be big. I don't know which way to go and I actually thought about going to check out the sales. Let me know what you decide.
I tried on some suits today, but it seems that the end of July is already clearance time with minimal selection. I'm gonna have to hit the nicer mall (maybe Friday?) and see if I can do better. I had ONE bikini I didn't hate, but the top was a little loose (not adjustable around the chest) and the bottoms were too big (smallest size I could find in that style was a 12!).
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I ordered a bunch of samples from Vitalady.com. They came quickly and this way I could try a bunch of them. The samples run $1.99 for a 35g. baggie. That isn't bad, but I thought the shipping was a bit inflated........but.......it's better than me spending a ton on a 2lb. jug and not liking it.
Bytsi..........I love the Fuzzy Navel, Crystal Sky (my favorite) and Roadside Lemonade. I also really liked the Twisted Cherry. I still have a sample of the lemon iced tea to try. I was not impressed with the Fruit Punch as this is one that is called a Syntrax Nectar "Natural". I got a funny after-taste from it and won't be ordering that one.
Like Karla........I prefer the shakes made with water and not milk. I like ON, but not with water so when I found these I was so happy. I drink at least one a day.
I ordered some of the Apple (that is supposed to taste like jolly ranchers) along with Fuzzy Navel - I hope it comes soon!! I didn't know where to get a sample, so I waited til my coworker's order came in and she let me have a sample.
Karate was ok... I was SO tired all day today, and was on the couch collapsed after work... I coulda just stayed there. But I decided if I sat around, I'd probably eat... so I went to TWO classes - beginner and advanced, so I wouldn't be on the couch, wouldn't munch... Bugg says I will hit around 2100 kcal if I'm on the couch the rest of the night, so I'm good with that... Coming in just under 1500 kcal eaten, about 43 carb, 35 protein, 22 fat.
I hear you about the bikini shopping. That's what happened to me last year before I went on my honeymoon. I waited until I was comfortable with my weight to buy one, and that didn't happen until around the 2nd week of July, and by then it was slim pickins.
I have a bikini to wear for pictures, but I think I'm going to wear some hot pants and a jog bra that I have. That way I won't have to (ahem) shave for the winter pictures! That is definitely motivation for me to not take the pics.
Stephanie - thanks for the sample info. I would love to get a PP that I liked in water and not milk. Haven't found one yet, but that would be great. Right now my shakes are very high calorically and it's a killer.
Karla,
How often or at what point do you refeed? I haven't read any of these books that are being talked about--would like to, but I'll have to wait till I'm not planning school and whatnot.
I did it this one time only since starting my cut. I did it right at the 12 week point. I just heard it was a good idea so I thought I would try it. I also decided to try it because I was not liking my weight loss to bf% loss ratio. I felt like I was losing too much muscle mass. So I went for a week and ate when I was hungry without respect to calories. I did it very cleanly though (see my other post to Bytsi about this) A re-feed doesn't mean to eat all the crap that you used to eat. It means to feed your body with high quality foods until it is full. BIG DIFFERENCE between the two and how your body will react to them.
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I guess I need to bite the bullet and go see if I can find a suitable bikini for pics today.... but I'm dreading it already. I've got shorts I could wear, but I really want to be able to see the changes more, since my legs and lower body are the areas that need the most work.
"As far as (healthy) eating, either do it, or don't. Same issues repeated over and over is just insanity. We either commit to the endeavor or pay lip-service to it. This is the hardest part of the whole process, and it needs to be practiced more than the actual physical training. It's mind training." ~ Matt Thorne
"The reason that most people fail instead of succeed is that they trade what they want most for what they want at the moment."
I hear you about the bikini shopping. That's what happened to me last year before I went on my honeymoon. I waited until I was comfortable with my weight to buy one, and that didn't happen until around the 2nd week of July, and by then it was slim pickins.
I have a bikini to wear for pictures, but I think I'm going to wear some hot pants and a jog bra that I have. That way I won't have to (ahem) shave for the winter pictures! That is definitely motivation for me to not take the pics.
ROTFL about the shaving Jes!!!!
I'm gonna go tomorrow again, see if I can do better at the bigger (nicer) mall... I need bottoms that aren't too skimpy (but NO skirts!) and a top that can support the girls adequately!
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A re-feed doesn't mean to eat all the crap that you used to eat. It means to feed your body with high quality foods until it is full. BIG DIFFERENCE between the two and how your body will react to them.
Heard and understood...
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I guess I need to bite the bullet and go see if I can find a suitable bikini for pics today.... but I'm dreading it already. I've got shorts I could wear, but I really want to be able to see the changes more, since my legs and lower body are the areas that need the most work.
That's why I'm gonna do a bikini instead of shorts or even skirt-bottom...
Measurements today - very strange... AF is here and normally I would've waited til next week, but for the sake of the challenge, moved it up one week... Weight only 1# down (sigh... but then again, AF is here). BF% SLIGHLTLY higher - prolly just measurement, but then again with less lifting... ?????
Having said all that, most of my circumferences were down... hmmmm...
And - finally - because I just need to do it. I'm leaving the weight #'s in this time. I've never said what I actually weigh before, but it's just a number, right? At home I'm 1/2# less today (nekkid) - this is with clothes and jewelry on at work... I was up to 152 briefly, but we won't discuss that . Goal is 135# (for now).
Date
Weight
BF%
Chest
Waist
Abdomen
Hips
Bicep
Thigh
3/2/2008
150
26.6
4/4/2008
151
26.4
37.5
32
35
39.5
12.5
22.5
5/2/2008
150
25.6
36.5
32.5
33.5
39.25
12.5
22.5
6/2/2008
149
25.2
36
31.25
33
37.75
12.75
23
7/8/2008
147
24.9
36.5
31
33
39
12
21.25
7/31/2008
146
25.3
36
30.5
32
38.5
11.75
21
Will take pics, one way or the other (new bikini or not), over the weekend to post for the challenge.
"As far as (healthy) eating, either do it, or don't. Same issues repeated over and over is just insanity. We either commit to the endeavor or pay lip-service to it. This is the hardest part of the whole process, and it needs to be practiced more than the actual physical training. It's mind training." ~ Matt Thorne
"The reason that most people fail instead of succeed is that they trade what they want most for what they want at the moment."
Wow Bytsi! Those are some great changes in measurments. And, yes, weight is really just a number.
I'm with Jes on the hotpants (or something similar; maybe boy-cut undies?) instead of the bikini. It's either that, buy a new bikini, or take pictures with a saggy bottom. Not shaving is just an added bonus!
Your stats look great! Definitely a downward trend there!
Thanks... sigh... I'm short - if I were nice and tall, the numbers would be awesome! I'm just over 5'2" (my license says 5'3" ). Of course my license also has a pretty low number on it - as in, lower than my current goal weight .
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Originally Posted by beach_plums
Wow Bytsi! Those are some great changes in measurments. And, yes, weight is really just a number.
I'm with Jes on the hotpants (or something similar; maybe boy-cut undies?) instead of the bikini. It's either that, buy a new bikini, or take pictures with a saggy bottom. Not shaving is just an added bonus!
Thanks - I do see the changes, just want them fast... but I guess other than fine-tuning, I'm not willing to make any HUGE decreases in calories to speed it up... maybe when AF leaves in a day or 2, the pounds will do a whoosh?
I had laser hair removal of legs, pits and bikini. I am relatively pale and had dark hair - it hurt like HELL, but now I only shave once in a while for a few strays or lighter hairs . Before, I had 5:00 shadow on my legs by noon!!!
) they did theirs wrong!!! 
)... AF showed up this morning - a freakin' week early!!!!! I felt pms-y but was thinking it was too early (she was due Sunday-ish!), but here she is... that beeeyotch 
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