The hamster is doing so well!!! Glad to hear of your progress... The food is always the hardest part...now I know what people mean about trying not to overeat when you lift! I've been to Panera too, and looked it all up on the website as well...it's so scary! Just when you think you're being "good" you go home and go...OH MAN!!! Looking it up before I went was probably a good idea...
Keep up the good work!
Hey Sidonia - thanks! I'm learning to look things up BEFORE I go anywhere, instead of after. I'm horrible about pre-cooking and planning well, but at least when I eat out I can pick somewhere where I have some idea about what I'm getting... and when in doubt, I'm learning which entrees are usually safe (and how to be high-maintenance while ordering too ).
I am always hungrier after lifting. When I was planning for 200 kcal extra on lift days, I'd end up going over anyway. Now, if I go over, at least it's usually within that 200 kcal I used to allot .
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Looking good, Bytsi!
Thanks Leslie! (I'm just here for the hamster pics too )
I always look up menus before I go there! Most places have nutrition facts online now. I seem to be better at avoiding temptation if I decide what to order before I get there.
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Bree - me too, definitely look BEFORE I go to the restaurant!
Paula - ROTFL - great circus-hamster pic!
Last night... I blew off karate (was out running errands with kids, just tired, etc)... and then I had a bad run-in with sugar/carbs. I was attacked by:
I swear the box just jumped into my lap and forced itself on me. I felt powerless to resist and ate WAY too freakin' much.
As a result, my rest day (since I skipped karate) and sugar-binge (prolly had at least 2 servings worth, if not more, straight outta the damn box) resulted in a 1# increase on the scale this morning.
I can't even say it's AF cuz it's about a week early for PMS cravings... .
Sigh.
Today (my no-longer-day-off since I skipped karate) I did 45 min SS on stairmaster, HR 120-130...
I AM BACK ON TRACK TODAY.
NO MORE . Kids like 'em, fine, whatever... but I WILL NOT EAT THEM. Not in a bowl, not out of the box, not on a plate, not under some rocks . NO MORE COOKIE CRISP.
Ok... moving on...
I need to figure out my goals for the open challenge. I know one will be to reach my goal weight (which was 10# away, now 11# away ).
I want one goal to be something about wearing a swimsuit and not feeling like crap, but not sure how I want to quantify that. I hate my stomach / belly fat - but a waist or abdomen measure doesn't really account for that entirely...
I think compliance (with diet!) will be a goal too... something about kcals or macros or ???
Also maybe a goal about sticking with recovery (exercise and diet) and learning to do planned refeeds (I just ordered Lyle McD's flexible dieting book to try to learn more how to plan refeeds instead of falling into mini-binges and losing control).
Any suggestions or thoughts are appreciated - I want to pick meaningful and helpful goals for myself and make this a growth experience, if that's not too sappy an idea... .
I suppose it's because I was never a milk person, but, never got into the cereal as a kid. The one question I have is though, do your kids really need cookie crisp cereal? I just looked - 13g of sugar per serving. I know, kids need energy, and it's convenient. Easy for me to ask since I don't have kids.
Ahhh attack of the cereal! I luv me some cereal and used to attack IT by eating big bowls for dinner and thought I was being healthy because it was low in fat. My all time fav was cinnamon toast crunch. Don't worry too much about it though.
I am trying to figure out some goals, too. I seem to be responding well (mentally, not physically.....yet) to a daily calorie goal. The macros seem to fall into place because I know that if I eat higher protein foods I will stay full longer. I think if you choose one goal, the others will slowly fall into palce i.e. the smaller waist
I love that everyone is thinking about goals again! It's a great time to re-evaluate, restate, and move into our next phases. I've got mine written in my daytimer, so I see them every time I open it now.
As for being happy with the way you look in a bikini, that's totally up to you. There really isn't a way to measure happy. That said, there's not reason not to have happy as a goal. I've got one based on total attitude/mood/whatever you want to call it, I'd like to be happy with my progress and the way I look and continue down that path. Usually I feel this way, but every now and then I catch a glimps of my butt and shutter (and I know it's no where near as huge as I think it is or as it once was, but stiill...I need to remind myself that I'm not 21 anymore, and haven't been for 12 years.).
I also want to be 75% compliant with my diet on a weekly basis. This leaves a little wiggle-room, but not nearly as much as I've been taking. I went back and found a compliance spreadsheet set for eating. It's pretty simple and can adapt to any diet plan.
Cereal attack!!! Been there done that! But the important thing it not to let it kill your week, and you're getting right back in there...which is the best thing to do!
I suppose it's because I was never a milk person, but, never got into the cereal as a kid. The one question I have is though, do your kids really need cookie crisp cereal? I just looked - 13g of sugar per serving. I know, kids need energy, and it's convenient. Easy for me to ask since I don't have kids.
(I'm just thinking that it would just be easier if it wasn't there.)
It would be easier, and no they don't need it... but they like it and I figure something for breakfast (especially if I get them to have milk with it) is better than nothing. We've tried other healthier cereals, and it just depends on their mood . The sad part is I didn't even have any milk with it!!! I try to pick my battles, especially with the kids and food!
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Ahhh attack of the cereal! I luv me some cereal and used to attack IT by eating big bowls for dinner and thought I was being healthy because it was low in fat. My all time fav was cinnamon toast crunch. Don't worry too much about it though.
I am trying to figure out some goals, too. I seem to be responding well (mentally, not physically.....yet) to a daily calorie goal. The macros seem to fall into place because I know that if I eat higher protein foods I will stay full longer. I think if you choose one goal, the others will slowly fall into palce i.e. the smaller waist
Thanks Bree... yeah - I used to think cereal was healthy... never liked cin. toast crunch though!
I do agree all the goals work together... I just want to quantify them a bit better before I post 'em!
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As for being happy with the way you look in a bikini, that's totally up to you. There really isn't a way to measure happy. That said, there's not reason not to have happy as a goal.
In other words, I like your goals.
First - WHOOOOOAAA - who said BIKINI!?!?!? I'm just talking ANY swimsuit!!!!!
Having said that, you're right... maybe it doesn't have to be THAT measurable - just if I feel better about it and am willing to be seen in it, that'd be a good goal...
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Cereal attack!!! Been there done that! But the important thing it not to let it kill your week, and you're getting right back in there...which is the best thing to do!
Thanks... yeah - one thing I'm SLOWLY learning is not to let it derail me and drag me down... it was a slip, it's done, move on. Learn from it.
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ROTFL!!!!!!!!
Mebbe that's where all the cereal went???
I hope you don't mind a little unsolicited advice. I saw your post in the PB2 thread and you probably do need to look into it. If you're trying to keep under 1500 cals, putting 200 cals worth of PB into a shake is only going to make things harder. Although for me a protein shake keeps the hunger away I usually (not always) just use protein powder and water. I've got a little fancier recently and I'm actually using the blender and will add some ice to make it more 'shake' like. If it's handy, and worked in, I'll use some frozen fruit.
I was just thinking if your shakes are running 300+ calories that there isn't a lot of bulk in them though, and that might be contributing to your hunger. Just a thought since I don't know if they're an occasional treat (the PB) or a regular thing.
Hi Anne - I haven't been doing my PB shakes (been just doing fruit) since I cut back to 1500kcal on lift days too... so the PB2 would be nice! I only do shakes on lifting days, for all the reasons you said - they just don't fill me up enough for the calories, except right around a lift when I want/need quick protein and carbs. I usually do put in frozen fruit and ice (and milk) and use a blender - yum!
I'm also looking into another protein powder that a coworker likes - she is going to bring me a sample and it's lower cal plus fruit-flavored so just mix with water! If it tastes as good as she said, it'll be a lot more convenient too.
First - WHOOOOOAAA - who said BIKINI!?!?!? I'm just talking ANY swimsuit!!!!!
Having said that, you're right... maybe it doesn't have to be THAT measurable - just if I feel better about it and am willing to be seen in it, that'd be a good goal...
My mistake! Either way, I think that having a personal non-measurable goal is acceptable and even good, especially if it focuses on how you feel about yourself.
First - WHOOOOOAAA - who said BIKINI!?!?!? I'm just talking ANY swimsuit!!!!!
Having said that, you're right... maybe it doesn't have to be THAT measurable - just if I feel better about it and am willing to be seen in it, that'd be a good goal...
ROFLOL! What a hoot! I know how you feel, though. A bikini....no way! You gals (and guys that follow the challenge) are the only ones seeing me in my bikini!
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I'm also looking into another protein powder that a coworker likes - she is going to bring me a sample and it's lower cal plus fruit-flavored so just mix with water! If it tastes as good as she said, it'll be a lot more convenient too.
If you like it, let me know what it is. My mega bag of EAS from Costco is getting low and I'm going to have to replace it soon.
Oh yeah cereal.... That was one of the most challenging things for me to stop eating. For me it is the frosted mini-wheats. I can seriously eat a whole damned box of them. I did eventually give them up though 'cause for the calories, the macros where just not there. That was tough though. That and pretzels. I still crave pretzels now and again but I dare not yet begin to eat them. I ate them all day long to the tune of who knows how many hundreds of calories. Carbs are yummy!
Hey way to go for not beating yourself up RE the little mis-doing. It's done and over with and so you will see a bit of some damage on the scale. Nothing you cannot work around though.
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I can totally relate to the cereal thing Bytsi... I had a little bowl of Reese's Puffs today myself. Easy for me to blame it on AF, but that would be a cop out, I'm afraid... I just wanted to eat it.... so I did. I did limit myself to the serving size on the box, and I enjoyed it thoroughly, but I know that eating foods like that are NOT going to get me where I want to go, kwim? Grrr....
"As far as (healthy) eating, either do it, or don't. Same issues repeated over and over is just insanity. We either commit to the endeavor or pay lip-service to it. This is the hardest part of the whole process, and it needs to be practiced more than the actual physical training. It's mind training." ~ Matt Thorne
"The reason that most people fail instead of succeed is that they trade what they want most for what they want at the moment."
ROFLOL! What a hoot! I know how you feel, though. A bikini....no way! You gals (and guys that follow the challenge) are the only ones seeing me in my bikini!
Me too - unless I start to get as lean as Karla or Nat, I'm not wearin' a bikini ANYWHERE but here! And my head will continue to be cut off in any body challenge pics!
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Oh yeah cereal.... That was one of the most challenging things for me to stop eating. For me it is the frosted mini-wheats. I can seriously eat a whole damned box of them. I did eventually give them up though 'cause for the calories, the macros where just not there. That was tough though. That and pretzels. I still crave pretzels now and again but I dare not yet begin to eat them. I ate them all day long to the tune of who knows how many hundreds of calories. Carbs are yummy!
Hey way to go for not beating yourself up RE the little mis-doing. It's done and over with and so you will see a bit of some damage on the scale. Nothing you cannot work around though.
Ooooooh Frosted Mini Wheats! Luv those too! At least there is a little redeeming value there... I can pretty much sit and munch on any good salty crunchy snax and eat a lot more than a serving... but I'm working on breaking that habit - MOSTLY successful ... ok - it's improving .
Thanks for the encouragement - it was hard to let it go, and truth be told I'm still a little annoyed at myself, but... I'm trying to move on. Wish the pound would move on!
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I can totally relate to the cereal thing Bytsi... I had a little bowl of Reese's Puffs today myself. Easy for me to blame it on AF, but that would be a cop out, I'm afraid... I just wanted to eat it.... so I did. I did limit myself to the serving size on the box, and I enjoyed it thoroughly, but I know that eating foods like that are NOT going to get me where I want to go, kwim? Grrr....
I'm not against a treat like that if I measure it out and plan for it... but I didn't do either.
Today: Stage 6 A2
Chin ups: 3 sets negs... timed 'em today and was 13, 15, 17 seconds. My hands get sore and give out!
Pushups: Used "perfect pushup" again - fun! 1x12, 1x10.
Stairmaster: 25 min interval program, HR 75% ish...
Supposed to have my Body Bugg phone coach session, so I didn't get on the tmill. She called me twice and I could hear her but she couldn't hear me (???), so now she hasn't tried again and I'm annoyed. I could be doing other things with my time and she doesn't answer when I call back the # on the caller ID. Dunno how to contact her/them at this point .
Finally reached BodyBugg coach... it was ok... she did show me a couple features in the software that I hadn't found yet (some comparison stuff and a "cheat" to tell it how many kcals I ate in a day since I prefer daily plate for logging)... was more like talking to a colleage than a teacher, but s'ok... not a complete waste of time, but I wouldn't have paid extra for it...
She did say MAYBE the stairmaster doesn't register as much due to the movement pattern, but she didn't have much of an answer other than my thought that at least it's not OVER-estimating - I'd rather err on the side of caution...
Tonight, I am hungry. Lifted earlier, which is prolly partly why... I feel pms-y, but I THOUGHT I had another week???? Hmmmmm... So far I've stuck to my kcals, but I'd better go to bed soon or I'll blow it!
Well at least the consult wasn't totally pointless. I'm sure they are designed to help people that are a little more out of touch with the fitness world than someone that lives on a fitness board and works in the health industry!
Love the pic. That's how I felt yesterday and I totally went over. At least you're figuring out how to control yourself!
Love the pic. That's how I felt yesterday and I totally went over. At least you're figuring out how to control yourself!
I am proud of myself for managing it... I hit 1560 kcal yesterday (and it was a lifting day)... That even includes a bite of DS's funnel cake at a local fair (fully logged ).
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That's me!!!!!!
Thanks Anne!!!
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WTG on the lat pulldowns btw. Have you tried doing any regular chin-ups lately?
Nope, but I should try 'em. I think I'm gonna make pullups and/or chinups part of my challenge goals ...
Today: 30 min on tmill of walk 1 / run 1 - the 30 included brief w/u and 3 min cooldown... HR close to 80%... Bugg says I burned a crapload of kcals doing it. Then went to karate belt-testing (as a judge) and stood around for FOUR freakin' hours... too many little rugrats !!!
Gonna head out with DH and DS (DD is, of course, doing her own thing with her own friends) and start thinking about finding a formal gown for the big charity ball at the hospital (in Sept). I usually HATE it, but maybe this year I won't hate how I look in all the gowns quite so much???
Nope, but I should try 'em. I think I'm gonna make pullups and/or chinups part of my challenge goals ...
Try doing as many as you can first, and then do the negative chinups for the rest. Even if you can't actually get one yet, try it at the beginning of the set.
Hi Leslie - THANK YOU for the pic - SOOOO cute!!!
I will try some chinups at the start next time - good idea
No real time to read the boards / logs tonight, but I wanted to post my very active day...
Tmill about 60 min this morning (I was on the stepper for 2 min but my knee was slightly ouchy so I stopped, tmill x 30 min, then on the arc for 2 min and decided I was bored - back to tmill for 25 more... Mostly around 3-3.2 mph at 8 incline.
THEN rode bike with DH and DS for about 40 min (now that it doesn't slip between 3rd and 4th gear, it felt great)...
THEN went shopping at the good local running store with DH and got cool new shooz for hiking - I didn't want hiking boots cuz they are always uncomfortable to me, so got trail running shoes (Aasics) that have a nice rock plate to go off-roading. After dinner took DH and pup on a nice 40 min walk/hike on a trail near our home - shoes felt good.
They're bright red with yellow, so if I fall headfirst in a pit, I can be easily seen
Anyway... back tomorrow (I hope) to read and catch up more... I have eaten about 200 kcal more than I should today, BUT bugg says my activity is about 400 kcal more than normal, so still a good deficit (love my rationalization, eh?)
Sounds like you had a great day! Love those shoes! I always wore trail runners when I worked in the scene shop (theatre carpentry) and backstage and I loved them. I always had to get mens and put inserts in them, though, because they didn't really make that many trail runners for women. Now they do!
And I figure if you're in a deficit, you're good to go. You gotta fuel the work you do or you'll lose your metabolism. Ask me how I know
I do agree all the goals work together... I just want to quantify them a bit better before I post 'em!
I hear you on that, but it's kind of hard to figure a way to put them together.
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First - WHOOOOOAAA - who said BIKINI!?!?!? I'm just talking ANY swimsuit!!!!!
Having said that, you're right... maybe it doesn't have to be THAT measurable - just if I feel better about it and am willing to be seen in it, that'd be a good goal...
LOL--I know just what you mean. I like I how look in a tankini (although it took a few years) and I don't even own a bikini. My own self-consciousness because it feels like wearing only my underwear and to feel happy in a bikini would be really difficult to do. I'm still deciding whether or not to buy one for the challenge.
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Thanks... yeah - one thing I'm SLOWLY learning is not to let it derail me and drag me down... it was a slip, it's done, move on. Learn from it.
So many of us are still working on just that one thing.
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Nope, but I should try 'em. I think I'm gonna make pullups and/or chinups part of my challenge goals ...
I was thinking about that, too, but since I'm doing OPT, I keep thinking I'd once again run into conflicting goals and that was a huge problem in the last challenge.
Anyway, what I really stopped by here to find out was how things are going with your BodyBugg and how you're doing typing while working out. Glad to hear you're moving right along with these things.
Hey Jes, thanks for sayin' hi!
Unfortunately, the scale is getting stuck again, with 11# to goal (twice, I've been at 10# to goal, then it bounces right back up!). AF is due this coming week / weekend, so I don't expect a great week... sigh...
Hi Karen - LOVE the bugg! It makes me conscious of how much I need to move and be active, cuz my rmr seems pretty sucky...
Reading Lyle McD's flexible dieting book - I want to learn about refeeds and diet breaks and how to do 'em right. If what I'm reading is right (and I checked on his forum but didn't get a great amount of info), if I do a 5-hour refeed, I should be eating over 2000 kcal of carbs during that 5 hours...
1.2 g carb / kg lean body mass (I have about 110 # or 50 kg lbm). 1.2 x 50 = 600. That means 600 g carbs = 2400 kcal!!!!!!
Anyone have experience with this?!?!? Seems like a crapload of kcals! If I eat "normally" before the refeed (he suggests eating normally, then doing the refeed for 5 hours before bed, so 5-10pm, for example), that's over 3000 kcal for the day (let's say I eat 800 of my "normal" 1500 kcal before 5pm). Yikes!!!!! Just seems SOOOO high!!!! I dunno if I could do it, but if I eat less, it might not serve its purpose...
I dunno... hope someone else has done this and has thoughts on it or could chime in with advice...
Still working on my goals... will post them soon...
Forgot my lunch today (packed my shake for my workout, left LUNCH sitting at home!). Not sure what I'll do, as I only get 30 min to eat and it'd take that long to run out and buy food... sigh...
I have never done formal refeeds, I think the desire has just hit me to eat and they come naturally (not saying that I did them right or ate the right things. I think the body just wills them at certain times). Anyhow, what I am going to say is that you will be retaining a LOT of water if you do that, and you're going to have to take that into account when you step on the scale in the morning. This could be 2-3 lbs of water from that many carbs, and it's going to take a couple of days to go away, so I would say you would want to try it and then wait a week and see if it affected you. How often does he prescribe these refeeds? If they are once a week or something like that, you're going to be bouncing all over the place on the scale, at least I would be!
The food is always the hardest part...now I know what people mean about trying not to overeat when you lift! I've been to Panera too, and looked it all up on the website as well...it's so scary! Just when you think you're being "good" you go home and go...OH MAN!!! Looking it up before I went was probably a good idea...
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I'm just talking ANY swimsuit!!!!! 
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